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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,226 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Had a nasty nightmare that the 75% voting threshold was not achieved, leading to bankruptcy proceedings.. God forbid it All concerned shareholders of the "msaliti" banks should write to the CEOs of the banks playing ball to reject the offer! KQ taking massive hits this week.. Sad turn of events, but luckily the inside scoop has been availed from the exchange bar. KES 8 per share is a near certainty. Expect a reprieve rally on the post-election dates, especially if peace prevails Yep terrible week...Pilots at it again major disruptions in the offing.... These KALPA guys need to be serious. Are they ready to bury KQ? Apparently the 737 incident could be sabotage Apparently Gichinga already doesnt like Mikosz claims he is arrogant and hard headed...Seems they are ready to bury the airline....11 arrivals cancelled + 7 departures...Crazy Final 6 foot nail being hammered in the casket! Orevua-KQ.  I'm at the exchange bar as I post this.. James Mwangi has got the dreaded call from the big man. Count the capital restructuring approved.. James Mwangi has a significant stake in Equity and should do what's best for Equity Bank! Why throw good money after bad? Equity and all the other banks should recover what little they can from KQ and call it a day. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,803 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Had a nasty nightmare that the 75% voting threshold was not achieved, leading to bankruptcy proceedings.. God forbid it All concerned shareholders of the "msaliti" banks should write to the CEOs of the banks playing ball to reject the offer! KQ taking massive hits this week.. Sad turn of events, but luckily the inside scoop has been availed from the exchange bar. KES 8 per share is a near certainty. Expect a reprieve rally on the post-election dates, especially if peace prevails Yep terrible week...Pilots at it again major disruptions in the offing.... These KALPA guys need to be serious. Are they ready to bury KQ? Apparently the 737 incident could be sabotage Apparently Gichinga already doesnt like Mikosz claims he is arrogant and hard headed...Seems they are ready to bury the airline....11 arrivals cancelled + 7 departures...Crazy Final 6 foot nail being hammered in the casket! Orevua-KQ. I'm at the exchange bar as I post this.. James Mwangi has got the dreaded call from the big man. Count the capital restructuring approved.. James Mwangi has a significant stake in Equity and should do what's best for Equity Bank! Why throw good money after bad? Equity and all the other banks should recover what little they can from KQ and call it a day. I feel what you are saying.. But GoK has made it clear that choices have consequences. JM obviously cannot afford to loose the massive GoK hand in its books. He has had to give in
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 684,200 ABP 6.72; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,803 Location: nairobi
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Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 684,200 ABP 6.72; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways This one needs not just prayers, it needs seven firely prayers straight from owour stores. Nah. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,226 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Had a nasty nightmare that the 75% voting threshold was not achieved, leading to bankruptcy proceedings.. God forbid it All concerned shareholders of the "msaliti" banks should write to the CEOs of the banks playing ball to reject the offer! KQ taking massive hits this week.. Sad turn of events, but luckily the inside scoop has been availed from the exchange bar. KES 8 per share is a near certainty. Expect a reprieve rally on the post-election dates, especially if peace prevails Yep terrible week...Pilots at it again major disruptions in the offing.... These KALPA guys need to be serious. Are they ready to bury KQ? Apparently the 737 incident could be sabotage Apparently Gichinga already doesnt like Mikosz claims he is arrogant and hard headed...Seems they are ready to bury the airline....11 arrivals cancelled + 7 departures...Crazy Final 6 foot nail being hammered in the casket! Orevua-KQ. I'm at the exchange bar as I post this.. James Mwangi has got the dreaded call from the big man. Count the capital restructuring approved.. James Mwangi has a significant stake in Equity and should do what's best for Equity Bank! Why throw good money after bad? Equity and all the other banks should recover what little they can from KQ and call it a day. I feel what you are saying.. But GoK has made it clear that choices have consequences. JM obviously cannot afford to loose the massive GoK hand in its books. He has had to give in Please explain. I thought most national GoK biz goes to prop up National Bank and most of the rest to KCB. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,226 Location: Nairobi
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The pilots will kill KQ. I still think "old KQ" should be declared bankrupt and go into technical insolvency and restructuring to form "new KQ"... Let all the current shareholders be wiped out, the creditors take a haircut and the staff can find jobs at "new KQ" on sensible terms which includes ownership not just salaries. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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KLM sponsored employee. Is he the one taking a hard stance on the CBA? KLM put a condition before they inject cash that staff costs must be kept low and no wide body higher capacity aircrafts for KQ? KLM will kill KQ and not the pilots.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,779 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Had a nasty nightmare that the 75% voting threshold was not achieved, leading to bankruptcy proceedings.. God forbid it All concerned shareholders of the "msaliti" banks should write to the CEOs of the banks playing ball to reject the offer! KQ taking massive hits this week.. Sad turn of events, but luckily the inside scoop has been availed from the exchange bar. KES 8 per share is a near certainty. Expect a reprieve rally on the post-election dates, especially if peace prevails Yep terrible week...Pilots at it again major disruptions in the offing.... These KALPA guys need to be serious. Are they ready to bury KQ? Apparently the 737 incident could be sabotage Apparently Gichinga already doesnt like Mikosz claims he is arrogant and hard headed...Seems they are ready to bury the airline....11 arrivals cancelled + 7 departures...Crazy Final 6 foot nail being hammered in the casket! Orevua-KQ. I'm at the exchange bar as I post this.. James Mwangi has got the dreaded call from the big man. Count the capital restructuring approved.. James Mwangi has a significant stake in Equity and should do what's best for Equity Bank! Why throw good money after bad? Equity and all the other banks should recover what little they can from KQ and call it a day. I feel what you are saying.. But GoK has made it clear that choices have consequences. JM obviously cannot afford to loose the massive GoK hand in its books. He has had to give in Please explain. I thought most national GoK biz goes to prop up National Bank and most of the rest to KCB. Not necessarily.KQ before share restructuring wasn't GoK controlled.The bizz was on a willing buyer willing seller.Equity saw an opportunity and decided to give a big dive Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways How can Delta refuse partnership with KQ yet it is partly owned by KLM? This is just another case of KLM silent agenda to kill this airline.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways How can Delta refuse partnership with KQ yet it is partly owned by KLM? This is just another case of KLM silent agenda to kill this airline. Beats everyone.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways How can Delta refuse partnership with KQ yet it is partly owned by KLM? This is just another case of KLM silent agenda to kill this airline. Beats everyone.... Time for KQ to cut ties with KLM.Who will do it is the big question.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,779 Location: NAIROBI
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ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways How can Delta refuse partnership with KQ yet it is partly owned by KLM? This is just another case of KLM silent agenda to kill this airline. Beats everyone.... Time for KQ to cut ties with KLM.Who will do it is the big question. KLM stake is being reduced from 26% to 13%. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,803 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways How can Delta refuse partnership with KQ yet it is partly owned by KLM? This is just another case of KLM silent agenda to kill this airline. Beats everyone.... Time for KQ to cut ties with KLM.Who will do it is the big question. KLM stake is being reduced from 26% to 13%. The Gachinga character must be dealt with. He doesn't feel the pain of killing an airline. KALPA is sinking an airline
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways How can Delta refuse partnership with KQ yet it is partly owned by KLM? This is just another case of KLM silent agenda to kill this airline. Beats everyone.... Time for KQ to cut ties with KLM.Who will do it is the big question. KLM stake is being reduced from 26% to 13%. Even with the reduced stake, KLM will still squeeze KQ to death.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways How can Delta refuse partnership with KQ yet it is partly owned by KLM? This is just another case of KLM silent agenda to kill this airline. Beats everyone.... Time for KQ to cut ties with KLM.Who will do it is the big question. KLM stake is being reduced from 26% to 13%. The Gachinga character must be dealt with. He doesn't feel the pain of killing an airline. KALPA is sinking an airline If pilots does not get enough rest, they will sleep on the controls and if a crash takes place then KQ's reputation is at stake. KLM should not hold this Airline at ransom. Cash injection should not be pegged on any condition at all. KQ's management must sit with the pilots and iron out all issues.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,803 Location: nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways How can Delta refuse partnership with KQ yet it is partly owned by KLM? This is just another case of KLM silent agenda to kill this airline. Beats everyone.... Time for KQ to cut ties with KLM.Who will do it is the big question. KLM stake is being reduced from 26% to 13%. The Gachinga character must be dealt with. He doesn't feel the pain of killing an airline. KALPA is sinking an airline If pilots does not get enough rest, they will sleep on the controls and if a crash takes place then KQ's reputation is at stake. KLM should not hold this Airline at ransom. Cash injection should not be pegged on any condition at all. KQ's management must sit with the pilots and iron out all issues. Surely. Have KALPA just realized that the pilots are not getting enough rest. During the peak season? Washindwe.. 6 days to go
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways How can Delta refuse partnership with KQ yet it is partly owned by KLM? This is just another case of KLM silent agenda to kill this airline. Beats everyone.... Time for KQ to cut ties with KLM.Who will do it is the big question. KLM stake is being reduced from 26% to 13%. The Gachinga character must be dealt with. He doesn't feel the pain of killing an airline. KALPA is sinking an airline If pilots does not get enough rest, they will sleep on the controls and if a crash takes place then KQ's reputation is at stake. KLM should not hold this Airline at ransom. Cash injection should not be pegged on any condition at all. KQ's management must sit with the pilots and iron out all issues. Surely. Have KALPA just realized that the pilots are not getting enough rest. During the peak season? Washindwe.. 6 days to go Hakuna kushidwa. Let them ask for their rights. They know better than we know. @maka, are the ops back to normal by any chance?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Such a nasty turn of events. The devil in work. Shindwe Its just crazy...btw Delta has refused to partner with KQ as they try to get into the US market. They are forming their own 'Super Alliance' with Virgin, KLM and China Eastern in the mix. In a series of transactions announced Thursday, Delta Air Lines (DAL) and Shanghai-based China Eastern (CEA)are each buying 10% of Air France/KLM (AFLYY)Group. And Air France/KLM will buy 31% of Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic Airways How can Delta refuse partnership with KQ yet it is partly owned by KLM? This is just another case of KLM silent agenda to kill this airline. Beats everyone.... Time for KQ to cut ties with KLM.Who will do it is the big question. KLM stake is being reduced from 26% to 13%. The Gachinga character must be dealt with. He doesn't feel the pain of killing an airline. KALPA is sinking an airline If pilots does not get enough rest, they will sleep on the controls and if a crash takes place then KQ's reputation is at stake. KLM should not hold this Airline at ransom. Cash injection should not be pegged on any condition at all. KQ's management must sit with the pilots and iron out all issues. Surely. Have KALPA just realized that the pilots are not getting enough rest. During the peak season? Washindwe.. 6 days to go Hakuna kushidwa. Let them ask for their rights. They know better than we know. @maka, are the ops back to normal by any chance? Yep but crazy backlog...some flights are +70 possunt quia posse videntur
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