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VituVingiSana
#301 Posted : Tuesday, July 18, 2017 12:58:05 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
KRA rejecting bankers Cheques from Sidian Bank.

I think Sidian should pay its taxes to KRA in bankers' chqs! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ... I wonder what CBK has to say about that.

That said... it's rumors like these that can cause stress for otherwise healthy banks.

@MuandiWambeu - Centum can find a partner [or foreign bank] which wants to be in Kenya to inject cash OR sell out. Take the loss and be done.

@alotoftalk - I think they should look for a banking partner who can bring money/equity as well as skills to the table.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
winston
#302 Posted : Friday, July 21, 2017 8:11:56 AM
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Did management get another 1bn bonus for last FY?
winston
#303 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:13:56 PM
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winston wrote:
Did management get another 1bn bonus for last FY?


Heeeelp! Anyone?
madebe
#304 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2017 10:29:09 AM
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Centum wants to acquire 5.53% of Deacons from Aueros East Africa.....see DN. Page 41......is deacons a worthy buy????
Horton
#305 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2017 12:58:39 PM
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madebe wrote:
Centum wants to acquire 5.53% of Deacons from Aueros East Africa.....see DN. Page 41......is deacons a worthy buy????



Thats a daft move. I sold out at 42/- glad I did. Reason I sold was:
1. Didnt understand their strategy anymore
2. They have sold alot of their assets KWAL, 2 rivers etc what would they use in future to prop up their profits? What else do they have remaining with the exception of NAS, NAIROBI bottlers & Almasi? Maybe the veggie export co?
3. Sidian was a major factor in my selling. Not an industry leader by a long shot.

From the proceeds of this sale, ended up buying more simba at 37-38
Ericsson
#306 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2017 2:04:33 PM
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Deacons will now have to open a branch at Two Rivers Mall
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
madebe
#307 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2017 3:47:54 PM
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Horton wrote:
madebe wrote:
Centum wants to acquire 5.53% of Deacons from Aueros East Africa.....see DN. Page 41......is deacons a worthy buy????



Thats a daft move. I sold out at 42/- glad I did. Reason I sold was:
1. Didnt understand their strategy anymore
2. They have sold alot of their assets KWAL, 2 rivers etc what would they use in future to prop up their profits? What else do they have remaining with the exception of NAS, NAIROBI bottlers & Almasi? Maybe the veggie export co?
3. Sidian was a major factor in my selling. Not an industry leader by a long shot.

From the proceeds of this sale, ended up buying more simba at 37-38


Two things
1. At kshs 3.9 to a range of 5 bob, deacons becomes a good buy target as i believe it has a wrong strategy that can be twicked
2. I am beginning to rethink my holdings in Banks, nobody is saying it for fear, but our banks are now beginning to hol;d toxic assets...think about loans to Kq, Nakumatt, Uchumi, Cables etc.....
winston
#308 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2017 3:55:22 PM
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was it DJ ck who said centum should be trading at 100(?)...i recall a quote from one wazuan that centum is beneficial...first to its employees...second to speculators and third to shareholders...in that order.

Despite sidians poor performance...the fact that a number of its assets are supported by revaluations..and ofcourse the hefty employee perks...still think its a good counter (in my opinion).
Horton
#309 Posted : Friday, July 28, 2017 7:44:50 PM
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winston wrote:
was it DJ ck who said centum should be trading at 100(?)...i recall a quote from one wazuan that centum is beneficial...first to its employees...second to speculators and third to shareholders...in that order.

Despite sidians poor performance...the fact that a number of its assets are supported by revaluations..and ofcourse the hefty employee perks...still think its a good counter (in my opinion).


Owners of companies tend to be over optimistic
whiteowl
#310 Posted : Saturday, July 29, 2017 10:34:32 AM
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winston wrote:
was it DJ ck who said centum should be trading at 100(?)...i recall a quote from one wazuan that centum is beneficial...first to its employees...second to speculators and third to shareholders...in that order.

Despite sidians poor performance...the fact that a number of its assets are supported by revaluations..and ofcourse the hefty employee perks...still think its a good counter (in my opinion).


This share rally started when it was at 22 and CK declared he had "1 billion war chest" to buy additional shares.To his credit, he did buy and hit his target.
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