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Jump-steady
#1741 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:57:25 AM
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alma1 wrote:
It's ok to twist and turn and start saying Raila was bad because he said this.

AT LEAST HE SHOWED UP

Uhuru has a habit of disappearing when needed by his people

Westgate, Garissa, Lamu, NYS, Doctor's Strike the currently going on Nurses strike

He seems to be very scared of Raira in public or is scared of having to prove to his supporters that there's anything he's done for the past 5 years?



At last @alma1 has come out lucidly!

He's masqueraded as a neutral not taking any side for a very long time. A Nyerian acting so boldly against muthamaki is rarity .

Though it is likely while partaking his viceroy in the local, he is guarded and careful with his feelings.

Seems like all this time he has been applying reverse psychology in his support for baba. A very unique and effective tactic.

Unlike @FRM2011 who is doing it for a consideration, @alma has not told us what there is for him. But iko kitusmile

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AlphDoti
#1742 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:00:42 PM
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maka wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Raila can't put up 30 ,minutes standing, he is aged like Buhari of Nigeria who do not know what is happening in Nigeria
He will live on Chairwheel or stretchers!!!
Its ok....

If only that was true. Kifaki was wheelchair and he is still my all time president who delivered big time during his tenure! But what you love for your neighbour is for you...
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alma1
#1743 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:05:39 PM
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Jump-steady wrote:
alma1 wrote:
It's ok to twist and turn and start saying Raila was bad because he said this.

AT LEAST HE SHOWED UP

Uhuru has a habit of disappearing when needed by his people

Westgate, Garissa, Lamu, NYS, Doctor's Strike the currently going on Nurses strike

He seems to be very scared of Raira in public or is scared of having to prove to his supporters that there's anything he's done for the past 5 years?



At last @alma1 has come out lucidly!

He's masqueraded as a neutral not taking any side for a very long time. A Nyerian acting so boldly against muthamaki is rarity .

Though it is likely while partaking his viceroy in the local, he is guarded and careful with his feelings.

Seems like all this time he has been applying reverse psychology in his support for baba. A very unique and effective tactic.

Unlike @FRM2011 who is doing it for a consideration, @alma has not told us what there is for him. But iko kitusmile



Pole sana. You trying to put me in a certain pot is not going to work. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly But you can try.

I've been very consistent. I would not vote for these two. 2 years before the election I have a thread about it on wazua. Go search.

But if I was forced with a gun to vote, surely, as much as I disagree with Raila, he at least turns up when needed.

So just to make it clear for you. It's a 50/50 chance that I vote for ANY candidate. From Wainaina, Raila, Aukot. It is a possibility. It can happen. As you say, I may have had some viceroy or something.

But there is absolutely no way on this earth that I can vote for someone who does not turn up.

I don't know why it's sooooo hard to grasp that. I have hired a lot of people in my life, and never ever ever have I hired someone who didn't show up for an interview.

Obviously, he's happy with his current votes so he doesn't need mine. smile And I don't need to waste my time on him either. smile
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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maka
#1744 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:08:53 PM
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Baratang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Baratang wrote:
Would Uhuru have gotten fair questioning if he had attended knowing far too well that the two fellows Linus and Joe are ODM members. Just asking for a friend.


Interesting because Joe Ageyo is current employed by NASA in the PR team.


Precisely. And Linus at some not distant past vied for an elective post some place in Kilgoris on an ODM ticket.

Uhuru was clever not to attend. I would have done the same thing.



Sigh...
possunt quia posse videntur
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#1745 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:09:39 PM
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sheri wrote:
maka wrote:
sheri wrote:
I am disappointed UK didn't turn up. But that's now cannot be undone. But I believe this is one election which is issue based.In mashinani people are now asking questions. What did he do as an MCA? MP? or Governor. In Kiambu for instance, although there was a lot of propaganda people are disappointed with poor service delivery Vs the county government levies. As for yesterday's presidential debate RAO did extremely well. But the issues he need to conclusively deal with and try to navigate is the "rent issue" and land issue. It might be his waterloo. Finally something being whispered in low tones is his religious leaning? where does he stand? That another small movement iko chini ya maji but is gaining traction with the Christians.
For the other DR's and Professors AKA wenye kutafuta mbuzi they can join their comrades in lecture halls and give the much needed knowledge to our young generation. Kenya doesn't need theorists.
I ENJOYED THE DEBATE smile smile



@Sheri whats the issue with rent again? Am not getting the problem.

He is Agnostic...Christians in this country have been some of the worst pretenders.

@People on the ground are not getting his rationale on reducing rent to manageable levels. The question being " does Baba has his own houses so as to promise to reduce rent.

The tenants are getting it very clearly, you just don't want to see their point of view
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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AlphDoti
#1746 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:12:06 PM
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alma1 wrote:
Amores wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Musimo wrote:


For some, they have all to gain/lose. I have relatives who lived in Kibera (Ayany), 2007. They became IDPs that election. Where my parents live, they also had to organize something as the drums of war came out from the man on stage today. So yes, everyone has all to gain/lose. If he says he would accept results as they are, people will not lose sleep on whoever is the next president. The drums of war currently being played have changed the landscape completely.

And yet, our brother's posts here are full of hate for Rao the man. How does that make it better for all of us ?

I am in several NASA whatsapp groups. You can imagine the kind of memes I receive daily. Most are offensive. You should see the ones guys are sharing now why Uhuru missed the debate. I never forward them to anyone. I have never posted any here on Wazua.

If we disconnect from our political choices emotionally, and simply make a rational choice on 8.8.17, we shall have a great country regardless of who wins. We owe it to the next generation.

My prediction. By 2032, guys will be laughing hearing that at some point, we used to fight because of elections.

He has refused to say that he will accept the results. His stand seems to be,he will accept if he wins.
At FRM, its contradictory to say the country will be great regardless of who wins. That's doesn't make sense since the choice is between stories (Raila) and progress (UK).

Amores you are lying. Unfortunately only lying to yourself. He said the total opposite of what you have just said. Go repeat the whole 90 minutes to get the right quote. This type of lying is what is bringing problems and tensions to this country. I wonder who it serves.

@Amores you can lie like that with a straight face? IN fact when I read your statement I wondered did you really watch the whole session? Please respect truth...
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kaka2za
#1747 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:13:20 PM
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freiks wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
In the debate, when asked about his housing policy, baba attacked "greedy" landlords and said he will bring down rents. Rents will be strictly controlled by government.


Googles galore! He said he would apply the relevant legislation.He actually dealt more on the 'Slum lords'


For 25 years what did he do in kibera, today along railway line i see decent low cost housing built during UK tenure that is less than 4 years, he speaks but i dont think it is translated to reality


You should know that an MP during the Moi era had the same influence as the cattle dip chairman.

Be ready for the change! Ucio uthamaki ni uikare!
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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hardwood
#1748 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:17:04 PM
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maka wrote:
Baratang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Baratang wrote:
Would Uhuru have gotten fair questioning if he had attended knowing far too well that the two fellows Linus and Joe are ODM members. Just asking for a friend.


Interesting because Joe Ageyo is current employed by NASA in the PR team.


Precisely. And Linus at some not distant past vied for an elective post some place in Kilgoris on an ODM ticket.

Uhuru was clever not to attend. I would have done the same thing.



Sigh...


That is why they never asked him serious questions eg his proposal to invade ranches.
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AlphDoti
#1749 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:28:38 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
In the debate, when asked about his housing policy, baba attacked "greedy" landlords and said he will bring down rents. Rents will be strictly controlled by government.

Googles galore! He said he would apply the relevant legislation.He actually dealt more on the 'Slum lords'

Another lie from a friend of @amores... I'm reading through last night posts. @hardwood how can a learned person speak white lies!
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alma1
#1750 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:33:37 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
In the debate, when asked about his housing policy, baba attacked "greedy" landlords and said he will bring down rents. Rents will be strictly controlled by government.

Googles galore! He said he would apply the relevant legislation.He actually dealt more on the 'Slum lords'

Another lie from a friend of @amores... I'm reading through last night posts. @hardwood how can a learned person speak white lies!


The problem with Jubilee bloggers, they lie tooooo much and end up confusing their own supporters.

I believe Amores is not their blogger but has been lied to by the fb broggers.

As for hardwood what we need to do is give him a portal. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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