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Uhuru versus Raila 2017
freiks
#1721 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:16:08 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
In the debate, when asked about his housing policy, baba attacked "greedy" landlords and said he will bring down rents. Rents will be strictly controlled by government.
Googles galore! He said he would apply the relevant legislation.He actually dealt more on the 'Slum lords'
For 25 years what did he do in kibera, today along railway line i see decent low cost housing built during UK tenure that is less than 4 years, he speaks but i dont think it is translated to reality
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hardwood
#1722 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:30:09 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Must be difficult trying to defend your General when he acts like a coward and thinks he is above questioning....
How is he a coward when he stated 20 days ago, on 5/7/17, that he will not participate in the debate. Also he is the president, why share the stage with aspirants? Why would he want to debate on why he wants to be president when he is already president? Hiyo ni kazi ya akina baba. For ohuru the appropriate forum should be one looking at his achievements and telling us why he wants continue serving as president, and a town hall style meeting is best for that.
sheri
#1723 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:32:27 AM
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harrydre wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Hahaha...uhuruto were enjoying the debate..
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly desperation nayo!
This is Ambitho crunching the number for Uhurusmile
alma1
#1724 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:32:36 AM
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It's ok to twist and turn and start saying Raila was bad because he said this. AT LEAST HE SHOWED UP Uhuru has a habit of disappearing when needed by his people Westgate, Garissa, Lamu, NYS, Doctor's Strike the currently going on Nurses strike He seems to be very scared of Raira in public or is scared of having to prove to his supporters that there's anything he's done for the past 5 years?
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
Obi 1 Kanobi
#1725 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:35:07 AM
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UK may regret this no show moment. RAO took those 90 minutes airtime and immediately hooked the country. He is naturally a rambler more comfortable in open spaces with crowds drowning his words so I have to say I was very impressed with how he articulated issues. He was able to explain the 2008 maize scandal and cleanly clear his name. He explained his position on rent and clearly stated that his solutions would for starters target slum lords who don't even own the land and would be within the law. At the end he further stated that they would focus on large scale low housing projects to provide dignified accomodation to the youth and single mothers ala as done in Singapore etc. He was conciliatory and clearly decoupled the UK govt from the larger Kikuyu tribe and only referred to the benefits of power as being enjoyed by his friends and not the entire tribe. To me those 90 minutes easily earned him a large chunk of most undecided voters and probably gave him strong momentum is the swing zones like Maasaini, Kisii and NE.
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hardwood
#1726 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:06:42 AM
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alma1 wrote:
It's ok to twist and turn and start saying Raila was bad because he said this. AT LEAST HE SHOWED UP Uhuru has a habit of disappearing when needed by his people Westgate, Garissa, Lamu, NYS, Doctor's Strike the currently going on Nurses strike He seems to be very scared of Raira in public or is scared of having to prove to his supporters that there's anything he's done for the past 5 years?
Are you blind...or you have eyes but don't want to see?????
hardwood
#1727 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:12:24 AM
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alma1 wrote:
It's ok to twist and turn and start saying Raila was bad because he said this. AT LEAST HE SHOWED UP
Showing up and talking too much and ending up saying nothing about how you will solve the issues facing Kenya, but only narrating stories and recounting events on the podium, is a waste of time. At least Ekuru Aukot had concrete plans when he appeared on stage and out did baba. If voting was based purely on presidential debates Aukot would beat baba 9-1.
alma1
#1728 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:16:29 AM
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8000 votes was the 50+1 I warn politicians that Nyerians are not from Kiambu. Uhuru will carry Nyeri but these stories of 2022 nikucheza mnacheza.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
madollar
#1729 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:25:38 AM
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freiks wrote:
Musimo wrote:
UK snubbed, Joshua appeared. UK said he'd do a town hall kind of thing. Question is: Will media houses agree to air it,seeing how UK snubbed their arranged debate?
Remember he is a media owner, they refuse his media house does it and for viewership purpose they will willingly do it
NASA will probably have a parallel townhall meeting hatakama jubilee will have paid all the media houses.All said and done that debate snub was a serious miscalculation on Jubilee's part with just weeks to go it it should be about closing arguments not being put on the defensive and attacking characters who have zero impact like ageyo and linus
sheri
#1730 Posted : Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:26:41 AM
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I am disappointed UK didn't turn up. But that's now cannot be undone. But I believe this is one election which is issue based.In mashinani people are now asking questions. What did he do as an MCA? MP? or Governor. In Kiambu for instance, although there was a lot of propaganda people are disappointed with poor service delivery Vs the county government levies. As for yesterday's presidential debate RAO did extremely well. But the issues he need to conclusively deal with and try to navigate is the "rent issue" and land issue. It might be his waterloo. Finally something being whispered in low tones is his religious leaning? where does he stand? That another small movement iko chini ya maji but is gaining traction with the Christians. For the other DR's and Professors AKA wenye kutafuta mbuzi they can join their comrades in lecture halls and give the much needed knowledge to our young generation. Kenya doesn't need theorists. I ENJOYED THE DEBATE smile smile
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