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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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hardwood wrote:Amores wrote:A FMR, is this Waithera that lackluster guy who tried to launch some movement to campaign for the former prime minister? Must be. He has declared up there that he is the grandson of Joshua.  Typical responses from you two. What I've always cautioned people, and I always appeal to partisan pple like @hardwood... is that there is a misconception that if anyone, like Wathera sees the govt or Uhuru doing something wrong, he should keep quiet and he shiukd not condemn because he'll be labelled as opposition supporter. Shame you guys!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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newfarer wrote:jubilee shouting alot in this place,too boring.more of a jubilee soliloquy.8.8.17 will come and pass.guys get a life.
kama si njunge(had much respect for you) ni hardwood bigchick (had much respect for you) realtreaty etc.
is this win or lose a matter of life and death? I'm saying this as I support atleast 2 jubilee candidates sonko and sakaja.
FROM2011 you emerge as one mature Kenyan.respect.I think we need more of you .
I'm finding NASA sychopants more calm and mature,jubilee ones too callous shallow and inciting
@Newfarer,sasa mashabiki wa Naswa wa kipungua its our fault? Pole about the noise and thanks for past respect. My take is that NASWA supporters have realised they are backing the wrong horse so have nothing much to say.Secondly this election is not issue based so we go back to our UK Vs RAO fight.Jubilee has enough issues that should make it NOT get a second term but for as long as its Kimundu on the ballot.....we remain with the devil we know. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,734
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AlphDoti wrote:hardwood wrote:Amores wrote:A FMR, is this Waithera that lackluster guy who tried to launch some movement to campaign for the former prime minister? Must be. He has declared up there that he is the grandson of Joshua. Typical responses from you two. What I've always cautioned people, and I always appeal to partisan pple like @hardwood... is that there is a misconception that if anyone, like Wathera sees the govt or Uhuru doing something wrong, he should keep quiet and he shiukd not condemn because he'll be labelled as opposition supporter. Shame you guys! Very true we should let waithera be but do you guys also see when the so called baba is misleading the flock Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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AlphDoti wrote:hardwood wrote:Amores wrote:A FMR, is this Waithera that lackluster guy who tried to launch some movement to campaign for the former prime minister? Must be. He has declared up there that he is the grandson of Joshua. Typical responses from you two. What I've always cautioned people, and I always appeal to partisan pple like @hardwood... is that there is a misconception that if anyone, like Wathera sees the govt or Uhuru doing something wrong, he should keep quiet and he shiukd not condemn because he'll be labelled as opposition supporter. Shame you guys! I think you are reacting like this because I commented on silly and tribal comments you made on another thread. Thing is,people like you make bizzare comments here on wazua, but in another thread,try to sanitize themselves by calling other people names. Calm down! I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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newfarer wrote:jubilee shouting alot in this place,too boring.more of a jubilee soliloquy.8.8.17 will come and pass.guys get a life.
kama si njunge(had much respect for you) ni hardwood bigchick (had much respect for you) realtreaty etc.
is this win or lose a matter of life and death? I'm saying this as I support atleast 2 jubilee candidates sonko and sakaja.
FROM2011 you emerge as one mature Kenyan.respect.I think we need more of you .
I'm finding NASA sychopants more calm and mature,jubilee ones too callous shallow and inciting
Wohoho,what is this rant all about? I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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? Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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newfarer wrote:jubilee shouting alot in this place,too boring.more of a jubilee soliloquy.8.8.17 will come and pass.guys get a life.
kama si njunge(had much respect for you) ni hardwood bigchick (had much respect for you) realtreaty etc.
 . Pole sana. In 2012, you were here supporting Odomo and when you sensed TNA were running away with it, you gave TNA supporters here a similar lashing. I have a good memory son and in any case, what has your respect done for me over the years?. NOTHING!. Don't you worry too much though. It's just the season. Also know that mongoose don't like bananas but they have never come to terms with the fact that, chickens eat bananas. It's life Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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http://www.the-star.co.k...-tz-questioned_c1601243
NASA ‘tallying centre in TZ’ questioned Quote:Thirdway Alliance presidential candidate Ekuru Aukot has raised concern over media reports that the National Super Alliance has set up a tallying centre in Tanzania.
In a press statement, he said this was an upfront to the Constitution and Kenya’s sovereignty.
“I am worried about NASA’s plans to set up a parallel tallying centre in Tanzania. It offends our Constitution and undermines our sovereignty,” Aukot said.
There have been reports that NASA candidate Raila Odinga has set up a tallying centre in Kigamboni, Tanzania, with the approval of the Tanzanin government.
Officials in Dar es Salaam had said the Kenyan Government had officially complained to Tanzania for allowing NASA to set up the centre.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,389
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FRM2011 wrote:
Borrowed from macharia waithera's facebook page. This one shoots from the hip, no prisoners taken.
"The people who think I am selling out the ruriri, the community for non-Kikuyu speakers, simply by supporting Raila Amollo Odinga, I have an answer for you.
It is true Kikuyu blood runs in me. It is also true that I have good diction of the Kikuyu language. It is also true I love the Kikuyu language to bits and anyone can tell you that I use Kikuyu at the earliest opportunity. So why am I against Jubilee????
First, I need to clarify on one thing. Jubilee is not Kikuyu and Kikuyu is not Jubilee. While Jubilee has a big support in Central Kenya, that won't make Jubilee the Agikuyu community. Jubilee is a political party owned by Ruto and Uhuru. Agikuyu community on the other hand is an ethnic community which is composed of around 8 million people who are not a personal property of anybody.
Secondly, the Kikuyu society is an egalitarian society where all adults are equal. Decisions are made through consensus, at least traditionally, and the last time I checked there was no consensus to support Jubilee or Uhuru Kenyatta. In the Kikuyu society, uthamakism or kingship or monarchical rule, ended a long time ago when a grandson of the father of the community, Gikuyu, became tyrannical and the community led by the Iregi (revolutionary resisters, iregi is to refuse through resistance) led a revolution where the Ndemi (cutters) and Mathathi led a socio-economic and political change. I know most of you tribal bigots from Central didn't know that because your allegiance is unto the Kenyatta family and not the Kikuyu community.
Thirdly, I pledge my allegiance unto the Kikuyu community and not the Kenyatta family. I am a Kikuyu by the name Macharia son of Waithira, daughter of Macharia, the third son of the late Joshua Kimemia who was the son of Karigi, a son of Munyinyi the great grandfather to my grandfather (I can go further by the way) all of whom are Agachiku from Metumi. If you note keenly, I have no ties to the Kenyatta family.
Fourthly, I am not against a Kikuyu presidency. Kikuyus can produce presidents in the next two centuries and I will be comfortable. As I pointed out in an earlier post, four of the first five presidents of the United States came from the State of Virginia; George Washington (the first), Thomas Jefferson (the third), James Madison (the fourth), James Monroe (the fifth). It is their exceptionality that stood out. James Monroe's seminal foreign policy, The Monroe Doctrine, is the mother of America's super-power status. When Virginia produced presidents. It had to produce the best. Kikuyus can produce better ones but not the Kenyatta I and II types.
Fifth, Uhuru Kenyatta represents the very worst that the Kikuyu community and indeed any other Kenyan community can ever produce. He might be a good Kenyatta but not a good Kenyan. Kikuyus can produce a much better leader.
Finally, I am a free man and not a slave. All political choice rests with the individual. If anyone dreams of the son of Waithira as a voting cow, he/she should wake up and apologize"
A good whine just to describe who he is not what we can achieve. He just shows how Independent he is other than interdependent. It was called in Kikuyu language mucene (gossip)  
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,389
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hardwood wrote:http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/07/21/nasa-tallying-centre-in-tz-questioned_c1601243 NASA ‘tallying centre in TZ’ questioned Quote:Thirdway Alliance presidential candidate Ekuru Aukot has raised concern over media reports that the National Super Alliance has set up a tallying centre in Tanzania.
In a press statement, he said this was an upfront to the Constitution and Kenya’s sovereignty.
“I am worried about NASA’s plans to set up a parallel tallying centre in Tanzania. It offends our Constitution and undermines our sovereignty,” Aukot said.
There have been reports that NASA candidate Raila Odinga has set up a tallying centre in Kigamboni, Tanzania, with the approval of the Tanzanin government.
Officials in Dar es Salaam had said the Kenyan Government had officially complained to Tanzania for allowing NASA to set up the centre. Raila is even trying to destroy the East African cohesiveness. I wonder if Maghufuli will see it fit to travel here for President Uhuru inauguration after beating Raila in a landslide. International community will penalize Tanzania after the GE
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