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What is ailing the Kenya Retail Sector
timuka2
#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:57:10 PM
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Any subject matter experts in house to shed some light? A majority of the big retail outlets, more so the supermarkets, appear to be heading south.
Ericsson
#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:01:04 PM
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timuka2 wrote:
Any subject matter experts in house to shed some light? A majority of the big retail outlets, more so the supermarkets, appear to be heading south.


Economy is doing poorly.People don't have the disposable income to sustain the current number of outlets
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chiaroscuro
#3 Posted : Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:30:38 PM
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Unplanned growth based on gut-feeling and fallacious assumptions!

Purely internal failures; nothing to do with business environment.
washiku
#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:31:10 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
timuka2 wrote:
Any subject matter experts in house to shed some light? A majority of the big retail outlets, more so the supermarkets, appear to be heading south.


Economy is doing poorly.People don't have the disposable income to sustain the current number of outlets


FYI, He asked of any "SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS"
Lolest!
#5 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:01:42 AM
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washiku wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
timuka2 wrote:
Any subject matter experts in house to shed some light? A majority of the big retail outlets, more so the supermarkets, appear to be heading south.


Economy is doing poorly.People don't have the disposable income to sustain the current number of outlets


FYI, He asked of any "SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS"

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Fyatu
#6 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:17:27 AM
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I am not a subject expert, however, from where i am perched, i know that some Kenyans have become more frugal. They are buying stuff at wholesale stores instead of supermarkets. I know of other Kenyans who used to consume large volumes of beer but now prefer taking Chrome vodka @200 bob or mzinga of Gilbeys gin @1100(2 to 3 drinking buddies). I know of others who now eat mogoka(jaba) instead of the more pricely "Giza fupi" or "asili".....etc. People are still buying cloths at downtown stalls as well as from wathii. This is probably due to high cost of living but also because more people are more driven towards saving and buying a plot to build or saving to invest....etc but i suspect it is more of saving to build
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#7 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:51:17 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
washiku wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
timuka2 wrote:
Any subject matter experts in house to shed some light? A majority of the big retail outlets, more so the supermarkets, appear to be heading south.


Economy is doing poorly.People don't have the disposable income to sustain the current number of outlets


FYI, He asked of any "SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS"

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sqft
#8 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:18:21 AM
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Petrol stations particularly Shell and Total are expanding like crazy. Many new (ex jap) cars are appearing on our roads everyday. You go to Carrefour or Naivas and queues are very long full of shoppers. You attend a school meeting and nowadays there's no parking coz of too many cars, even the playing field is full. So all is not gloom. A few retailers may be suffering but that could be due to their internal problems. FYI some years back uchumi was still struggling even when every other company was making billions.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:22:39 AM
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Fyatu wrote:
I am not a subject expert, however, from where i am perched, i know that some Kenyans have become more frugal. They are buying stuff at wholesale stores instead of supermarkets. I know of other Kenyans who used to consume large volumes of beer but now prefer taking Chrome vodka @200 bob or mzinga of Gilbeys gin @1100(2 to 3 drinking buddies). I know of others who now eat mogoka(jaba) instead of the more pricely "Giza fupi" or "asili".....etc. People are still buying cloths at downtown stalls as well as from wathii. This is probably due to high cost of living but also because more people are more driven towards saving and buying a plot to build or saving to invest....etc but i suspect it is more of saving to build


I have been seeing alot of this lately where guys buy a mzinga and take in the car instead of going to the pub.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:57:00 AM
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timuka2 wrote:
Any subject matter experts in house to shed some light? A majority of the big retail outlets, more so the supermarkets, appear to be heading south.


Which ones are stuggling apart from Nakumatt?
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#11 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:08:19 AM
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sparkly wrote:
timuka2 wrote:
Any subject matter experts in house to shed some light? A majority of the big retail outlets, more so the supermarkets, appear to be heading south.


Which ones are stuggling apart from Nakumatt?


Uchumi, Mama Mboga, ......
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#12 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:13:05 AM
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timuka2 wrote:
Any subject matter experts in house to shed some light? A majority of the big retail outlets, more so the supermarkets, appear to be heading south.

Am no expert in the matter but think the issue is poor management- Insider theft, spending massively on expansion b4 paying suppliers. And of late, banks are more cautious due to rates cap hence getting overdrafts to plug short term holes is uphill task. Etc etc
Lolest!
#13 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:01:12 PM
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sqft wrote:
Petrol stations particularly Shell and Total are expanding like crazy. Many new (ex jap) cars are appearing on our roads everyday. You go to Carrefour or Naivas and queues are very long full of shoppers. You attend a school meeting and nowadays there's no parking coz of too many cars, even the playing field is full. So all is not gloom. A few retailers may be suffering but that could be due to their internal problems. FYI some years back uchumi was still struggling even when every other company was making billions.


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The industrialist and chairman of Brand Kenya spent the better part of his address dressing down journalists for what he called their warped sense of news, and hate of their country.

Mr Kirubi is among Kenya’s richest men. He is also a philanthropist and faults the media for their fixation with failure.

SUCCESS STORIES

He actually called journalists “gravediggers’”, who delight in failed enterprises as opposed to success stories.
As Mr Kirubi noted, a foreigner visiting Kenya for investment opportunities would be forgiven for taking the next flight out, thinking that he had landed in the wrong place, what with negative stories!

http://mobile.nation.co....em-1-jycbn8z/index.html


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Angelica _ann
#14 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:15:36 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
sqft wrote:
Petrol stations particularly Shell and Total are expanding like crazy. Many new (ex jap) cars are appearing on our roads everyday. You go to Carrefour or Naivas and queues are very long full of shoppers. You attend a school meeting and nowadays there's no parking coz of too many cars, even the playing field is full. So all is not gloom. A few retailers may be suffering but that could be due to their internal problems. FYI some years back uchumi was still struggling even when every other company was making billions.


Quote:
The industrialist and chairman of Brand Kenya spent the better part of his address dressing down journalists for what he called their warped sense of news, and hate of their country.

Mr Kirubi is among Kenya’s richest men. He is also a philanthropist and faults the media for their fixation with failure.

SUCCESS STORIES

He actually called journalists “gravediggers’”, who delight in failed enterprises as opposed to success stories.
As Mr Kirubi noted, a foreigner visiting Kenya for investment opportunities would be forgiven for taking the next flight out, thinking that he had landed in the wrong place, what with negative stories!

http://mobile.nation.co....em-1-jycbn8z/index.html




Quoted from the article ........

Editors and media proprietors have the ability to change the narrative from doom and gloom to celebrating national heroes and Mrs Njuguna was one.

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In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#15 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:47:00 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
sqft wrote:
Petrol stations particularly Shell and Total are expanding like crazy. Many new (ex jap) cars are appearing on our roads everyday. You go to Carrefour or Naivas and queues are very long full of shoppers. You attend a school meeting and nowadays there's no parking coz of too many cars, even the playing field is full. So all is not gloom. A few retailers may be suffering but that could be due to their internal problems. FYI some years back uchumi was still struggling even when every other company was making billions.


Quote:
The industrialist and chairman of Brand Kenya spent the better part of his address dressing down journalists for what he called their warped sense of news, and hate of their country.

Mr Kirubi is among Kenya’s richest men. He is also a philanthropist and faults the media for their fixation with failure.

SUCCESS STORIES

He actually called journalists “gravediggers’”, who delight in failed enterprises as opposed to success stories.
As Mr Kirubi noted, a foreigner visiting Kenya for investment opportunities would be forgiven for taking the next flight out, thinking that he had landed in the wrong place, what with negative stories!

http://mobile.nation.co....em-1-jycbn8z/index.html




Quoted from the article ........

Editors and media proprietors have the ability to change the narrative from doom and gloom to celebrating national heroes and Mrs Njuguna was one.

Applause Applause Applause

Its sad what the Kenya media does to local companies

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Angelica _ann
#16 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 4:17:34 PM
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obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
sqft wrote:
Petrol stations particularly Shell and Total are expanding like crazy. Many new (ex jap) cars are appearing on our roads everyday. You go to Carrefour or Naivas and queues are very long full of shoppers. You attend a school meeting and nowadays there's no parking coz of too many cars, even the playing field is full. So all is not gloom. A few retailers may be suffering but that could be due to their internal problems. FYI some years back uchumi was still struggling even when every other company was making billions.


Quote:
The industrialist and chairman of Brand Kenya spent the better part of his address dressing down journalists for what he called their warped sense of news, and hate of their country.

Mr Kirubi is among Kenya’s richest men. He is also a philanthropist and faults the media for their fixation with failure.

SUCCESS STORIES

He actually called journalists “gravediggers’”, who delight in failed enterprises as opposed to success stories.
As Mr Kirubi noted, a foreigner visiting Kenya for investment opportunities would be forgiven for taking the next flight out, thinking that he had landed in the wrong place, what with negative stories!

http://mobile.nation.co....em-1-jycbn8z/index.html




Quoted from the article ........

Editors and media proprietors have the ability to change the narrative from doom and gloom to celebrating national heroes and Mrs Njuguna was one.

Applause Applause Applause

Its sad what the Kenya media does to KQ

In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#17 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 5:37:39 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
sqft wrote:
Petrol stations particularly Shell and Total are expanding like crazy. Many new (ex jap) cars are appearing on our roads everyday. You go to Carrefour or Naivas and queues are very long full of shoppers. You attend a school meeting and nowadays there's no parking coz of too many cars, even the playing field is full. So all is not gloom. A few retailers may be suffering but that could be due to their internal problems. FYI some years back uchumi was still struggling even when every other company was making billions.


Quote:
The industrialist and chairman of Brand Kenya spent the better part of his address dressing down journalists for what he called their warped sense of news, and hate of their country.

Mr Kirubi is among Kenya’s richest men. He is also a philanthropist and faults the media for their fixation with failure.

SUCCESS STORIES

He actually called journalists “gravediggers’”, who delight in failed enterprises as opposed to success stories.
As Mr Kirubi noted, a foreigner visiting Kenya for investment opportunities would be forgiven for taking the next flight out, thinking that he had landed in the wrong place, what with negative stories!

http://mobile.nation.co....em-1-jycbn8z/index.html




Quoted from the article ........

Editors and media proprietors have the ability to change the narrative from doom and gloom to celebrating national heroes and Mrs Njuguna was one.

Applause Applause Applause

Its sad what the Kenya media does to KQ


Angelica wacha uchokozi

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:30:27 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
sqft wrote:
Petrol stations particularly Shell and Total are expanding like crazy. Many new (ex jap) cars are appearing on our roads everyday. You go to Carrefour or Naivas and queues are very long full of shoppers. You attend a school meeting and nowadays there's no parking coz of too many cars, even the playing field is full. So all is not gloom. A few retailers may be suffering but that could be due to their internal problems. FYI some years back uchumi was still struggling even when every other company was making billions.


Quote:
The industrialist and chairman of Brand Kenya spent the better part of his address dressing down journalists for what he called their warped sense of news, and hate of their country.

Mr Kirubi is among Kenya’s richest men. He is also a philanthropist and faults the media for their fixation with failure.

SUCCESS STORIES

He actually called journalists “gravediggers’”, who delight in failed enterprises as opposed to success stories.
As Mr Kirubi noted, a foreigner visiting Kenya for investment opportunities would be forgiven for taking the next flight out, thinking that he had landed in the wrong place, what with negative stories!

http://mobile.nation.co....em-1-jycbn8z/index.html




Quoted from the article ........

Editors and media proprietors have the ability to change the narrative from doom and gloom to celebrating national heroes and Mrs Njuguna was one.

Applause Applause Applause

Its sad what the Kenya media does to KQ


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washiku
#19 Posted : Friday, July 21, 2017 1:12:25 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
sqft wrote:
Petrol stations particularly Shell and Total are expanding like crazy. Many new (ex jap) cars are appearing on our roads everyday. You go to Carrefour or Naivas and queues are very long full of shoppers. You attend a school meeting and nowadays there's no parking coz of too many cars, even the playing field is full. So all is not gloom. A few retailers may be suffering but that could be due to their internal problems. FYI some years back uchumi was still struggling even when every other company was making billions.


Quote:
The industrialist and chairman of Brand Kenya spent the better part of his address dressing down journalists for what he called their warped sense of news, and hate of their country.

Mr Kirubi is among Kenya’s richest men. He is also a philanthropist and faults the media for their fixation with failure.

SUCCESS STORIES

He actually called journalists “gravediggers’”, who delight in failed enterprises as opposed to success stories.
As Mr Kirubi noted, a foreigner visiting Kenya for investment opportunities would be forgiven for taking the next flight out, thinking that he had landed in the wrong place, what with negative stories!

http://mobile.nation.co....em-1-jycbn8z/index.html




Quoted from the article ........

Editors and media proprietors have the ability to change the narrative from doom and gloom to celebrating national heroes and Mrs Njuguna was one.

Applause Applause Applause

Its sad what the Kenya media does to KQ


Laughing out loudly Applause Laughing out loudly Applause


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#20 Posted : Friday, July 21, 2017 3:53:45 AM
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washiku wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
sqft wrote:
Petrol stations particularly Shell and Total are expanding like crazy. Many new (ex jap) cars are appearing on our roads everyday. You go to Carrefour or Naivas and queues are very long full of shoppers. You attend a school meeting and nowadays there's no parking coz of too many cars, even the playing field is full. So all is not gloom. A few retailers may be suffering but that could be due to their internal problems. FYI some years back uchumi was still struggling even when every other company was making billions.


Quote:
The industrialist and chairman of Brand Kenya spent the better part of his address dressing down journalists for what he called their warped sense of news, and hate of their country.

Mr Kirubi is among Kenya’s richest men. He is also a philanthropist and faults the media for their fixation with failure.

SUCCESS STORIES

He actually called journalists “gravediggers’”, who delight in failed enterprises as opposed to success stories.
As Mr Kirubi noted, a foreigner visiting Kenya for investment opportunities would be forgiven for taking the next flight out, thinking that he had landed in the wrong place, what with negative stories!

http://mobile.nation.co....em-1-jycbn8z/index.html




Quoted from the article ........

Editors and media proprietors have the ability to change the narrative from doom and gloom to celebrating national heroes and Mrs Njuguna was one.

Applause Applause Applause

Its sad what the Kenya media does to KQ


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