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muganda
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 19, 2017 5:28:52 PM
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Have these civil servants learnt GOK's trick? See the similarities with Doctor's strike:

1. picked election year
2. ignored court stay
3. saw through the GOK infinite negotiation loop
(created when GOK signs CBAs with no implementation date, as happened with teachers/doctors)

Meanwhile drought/maize crisis plays on. A hungry/broke/sick electorate may become an unpredictable force.
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washiku
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 19, 2017 5:31:37 PM
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Kama doctors have been ignored this long, sadly, who are lecturers to think they will be listened to any time soon? If it was the pry school teachers, it could have been a bit different. #Numbers
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muganda
#3 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 11:57:00 AM
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washiku wrote:
Kama doctors have been ignored this long, sadly, who are lecturers to think they will be listened to any time soon? If it was the pry school teachers, it could have been a bit different. #Numbers


Good point on numbers. The issue though, is momentum. Coupled with things you can't control like drought. Then elections.

Public hospitals ...strike 47 days (how do patients vote?)
Public university ...strike 1 day (how do students vote?)
Next strike...?
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#4 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 1:01:45 PM
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Drought effects will most probably have dissipated by May/June - the elections are in August.

The strike menace is a cause for worry. If, or is it when Teachers join in, things can only be elephant.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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EngineerLMG
#5 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 6:05:01 PM
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This is what I think of it:

I'm annoyed that wamenifungia library yangu Margaret Thatcher na siwezi somea huko.

Brick wall
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McReggae
#6 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 6:30:33 PM
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washiku wrote:
Kama doctors have been ignored this long, sadly, who are lecturers to think they will be listened to any time soon? If it was the pry school teachers, it could have been a bit different. #Numbers


Don't forget the effect of idle university students all over the country.

The docs come into contact with very few Kenyans the reason the country seems to be moving on!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Much Know
#7 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2017 8:57:50 PM
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McReggae wrote:
washiku wrote:
Kama doctors have been ignored this long, sadly, who are lecturers to think they will be listened to any time soon? If it was the pry school teachers, it could have been a bit different. #Numbers


Don't forget the effect of idle university students all over the country.

The docs come into contact with very few Kenyans the reason the country seems to be moving on!!!

Karibu Sana! Wacha kupotea hivo bwana!
Ras Kienyeji Man
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Swenani
#8 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2017 8:32:58 AM
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EngineerLMG wrote:
This is what I think of it:

I'm annoyed that wamenifungia library yangu Margaret Thatcher na siwezi somea huko.

Brick wall


Engineer are you part of the UoN engineering class which failed exams?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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maka
#9 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2017 9:48:16 AM
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Swenani wrote:
EngineerLMG wrote:
This is what I think of it:

I'm annoyed that wamenifungia library yangu Margaret Thatcher na siwezi somea huko.

Brick wall


Engineer are you part of the UoN engineering class which failed exams?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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EngineerLMG
#10 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2017 3:54:10 PM
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Swenani wrote:
EngineerLMG wrote:
This is what I think of it:

I'm annoyed that wamenifungia library yangu Margaret Thatcher na siwezi somea huko.

Brick wall


Engineer are you part of the UoN engineering class which failed exams?


Hell to the no. I'm in Moi.
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Taurrus
#11 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2017 7:40:14 PM
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maka wrote:
Swenani wrote:
EngineerLMG wrote:
This is what I think of it:

I'm annoyed that wamenifungia library yangu Margaret Thatcher na siwezi somea huko.

Brick wall


Engineer are you part of the UoN engineering class which failed exams?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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alma1
#12 Posted : Saturday, January 21, 2017 7:47:30 PM
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EngineerLMG wrote:
Swenani wrote:
EngineerLMG wrote:
This is what I think of it:

I'm annoyed that wamenifungia library yangu Margaret Thatcher na siwezi somea huko.

Brick wall


Engineer are you part of the UoN engineering class which failed exams?


Hell to the no. I'm in Moi.


Do you want to know the history of Moi or are as Impunity says a "dhenks" fellow?
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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obiero
#13 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:36:17 AM
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muganda wrote:
washiku wrote:
Kama doctors have been ignored this long, sadly, who are lecturers to think they will be listened to any time soon? If it was the pry school teachers, it could have been a bit different. #Numbers


Good point on numbers. The issue though, is momentum. Coupled with things you can't control like drought. Then elections.

Public hospitals ...strike 47 days (how do patients vote?)
Public university ...strike 1 day (how do students vote?)
Next strike...?

Its not the affected that votes directly. Unfortunately some have even passe passed away. So its your responsibility to ensure that no one else dies needlessly by voting with a clear mind on whether this government did everything in its might to save the lives of its citizens

KQ ABP 4.26
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EngineerLMG
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:31:59 PM
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alma1 wrote:
[quote=EngineerLMG]
Do you want to know the history of Moi or are as Impunity says a "dhenks" fellow?


I know this is late, but yes. I would like to know. Dhenks.
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oltome
#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 19, 2017 5:49:30 PM
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Quick query, does the recently agreed CBA cover all lecturers that is to include those in the Civil Service i.e. Kenya School of Govt, the Agricultural Colleges, or it's just for the universities. Also, does their remuneration fall within the Civil Service or the Universities?
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