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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Baba now orders his followers to abstain from $ex. I thought $ex is central to luo culture and it precedes any important event eg planting, harvesting, building a house etc? http://www.the-star.co.k...ions-eve-raila_c1598382
http://amma.socsci.uva.nl/theses/ochieng.pdf
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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[quote=hardwood]Baba now orders his followers to abstain from $ex. I thought $ex is central to luo culture and it precedes any important event eg planting, harvesting, building a house etc? http://www.the-star.co.k...ions-eve-raila_c1598382
http://amma.socsci.uva.nl/theses/ochieng.pdf[/quote] Very good news! Jubilee men can fix the sex starved NASA women too  Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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If my memory is right, in the general elections of 1974, the then Dagoretti Mpig, the late Njoroge Mungai, lost to little known Dr. Johnstone Muthiora. Was wondering if Eliud Muthiora has any relation with the then Mpig. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/3/2015 Posts: 118 Location: Nairobi
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Where is the guy that used to give us on-the-ground opinion polls for NASA vs Jubilee?He's been quiet too long.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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Musimo wrote:Where is the guy that used to give us on-the-ground opinion polls for NASA vs Jubilee?He's been quiet too long. He run out of steam. It's hard trying to justify impossible combination of numbers Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Musimo wrote:Where is the guy that used to give us on-the-ground opinion polls for NASA vs Jubilee?He's been quiet too long. You mean Excel-Crunched numbers? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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mpobiz wrote:Musimo wrote:Where is the guy that used to give us on-the-ground opinion polls for NASA vs Jubilee?He's been quiet too long. He run out of steam. It's hard trying to justify impossible combination of numbers I am here and very much active. Forget opinion polls, this thing is coming down to about 6 counties. We have sampled about 100 polling stations in those counties. By 8pm polling day, these stations will tell us whether to pop the champagne bottles or not. Either way, a worst case scenario for NASA is failing to meet the 50%+1 threshold. ION, Jubilee have just delivered a career-ending tackle to infotrak. There is a video going round purpotedly showing their staff marking questionnaires in their office. The spin from Jubilee is that infotrak are set to release a cooked poll showing Baba and Uhuru tied at 47% each. Let's see how Angela gets herself out of this one. Personally I feel nothing for the pollsters.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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FRM2011 wrote:mpobiz wrote:Musimo wrote:Where is the guy that used to give us on-the-ground opinion polls for NASA vs Jubilee?He's been quiet too long. He run out of steam. It's hard trying to justify impossible combination of numbers I am here and very much active. Forget opinion polls, this thing is coming down to about 6 counties. We have sampled about 100 polling stations in those counties. By 8pm polling day, these stations will tell us whether to pop the champagne bottles or not. Either way, a worst case scenario for NASA is failing to meet the 50%+1 threshold. ION, Jubilee have just delivered a career-ending tackle to infotrak. There is a video going round purpotedly showing their staff marking questionnaires in their office. The spin from Jubilee is that infotrak are set to release a cooked poll showing Baba and Uhuru tied at 47% each. Let's see how Angela gets herself out of this one. Personally I feel nothing for the pollsters. Though this could be anyone. It could even be Jubilee
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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I don't know but is there something I'm not seeing? I have tried looking at this in every way and I can't even see a hint of NASA coming anywhere close to beating Jubs. I haven't seen people with NASA t-shirts/caps/motorbike reflectors. I haven't seen their ads - billboards, posters, TV ads radio or social media where it's just supporters abusing each others. I don't know their agenda, Mdvd and Kalonzo seem to be absent in the campaigns - baba looks alone... Media coverage is half that of Jubs. Kidero, Joho and other governors have splashed their towns with their own billboards with no baba... even Joho with 21 billboards in Mombasa can't offer baba one?... Maybe it's just me. But I don't get their logic of missing the free debate by hogwash...
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/1/2008 Posts: 1,098
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2012 wrote:I don't know but is there something I'm not seeing? I have tried looking at this in every way and I can't even see a hint of NASA coming anywhere close to beating Jubs. I haven't seen people with NASA t-shirts/caps/motorbike reflectors. I haven't seen their ads - billboards, posters, TV ads radio or social media where it's just supporters abusing each others. I don't know their agenda, Mdvd and Kalonzo seem to be absent in the campaigns - baba looks alone... Media coverage is half that of Jubs. Kidero, Joho and other governors have splashed their towns with their own billboards with no baba... even Joho with 21 billboards in Mombasa can't offer baba one?... Maybe it's just me. But I don't get their logic of missing the free debate by hogwash... NASA are anticipating a nusu mkate. There are only a couple of days remaining to the polls, and they are still trying to put impediments through superfluous litigation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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2012 wrote:I don't know but is there something I'm not seeing? I have tried looking at this in every way and I can't even see a hint of NASA coming anywhere close to beating Jubs. I haven't seen people with NASA t-shirts/caps/motorbike reflectors. I haven't seen their ads - billboards, posters, TV ads radio or social media where it's just supporters abusing each others. I don't know their agenda, Mdvd and Kalonzo seem to be absent in the campaigns - baba looks alone... Media coverage is half that of Jubs. Kidero, Joho and other governors have splashed their towns with their own billboards with no baba... even Joho with 21 billboards in Mombasa can't offer baba one?... Maybe it's just me. But I don't get their logic of missing the free debate by hogwash... The Jubilee duo have lined up back-to-back campaign rallies that have never been done in Kenya before. They have seen something that you haven't. They have access to the type of intel you and I can only dream about. And that intel is telling them that this is a do-or-die battle. Sadly, nobody is preparing jubilee supporters for the inevitable.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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FRM2011 wrote:2012 wrote:I don't know but is there something I'm not seeing? I have tried looking at this in every way and I can't even see a hint of NASA coming anywhere close to beating Jubs. I haven't seen people with NASA t-shirts/caps/motorbike reflectors. I haven't seen their ads - billboards, posters, TV ads radio or social media where it's just supporters abusing each others. I don't know their agenda, Mdvd and Kalonzo seem to be absent in the campaigns - baba looks alone... Media coverage is half that of Jubs. Kidero, Joho and other governors have splashed their towns with their own billboards with no baba... even Joho with 21 billboards in Mombasa can't offer baba one?... Maybe it's just me. But I don't get their logic of missing the free debate by hogwash... The Jubilee duo have lined up back-to-back campaign rallies that have never been done in Kenya before. They have seen something that you haven't. They have access to the type of intel you and I can only dream about. And that intel is telling them that this is a do-or-die battle. Sadly, nobody is preparing jubilee supporters for the inevitable. I think it's subject to interpretation. Some will say it's because they are afraid while others will say it's because they want to win bigly - landslide.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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Jump-steady wrote:Liv wrote:maka wrote:kaka2za wrote:Nusu mkate Lazima!! It will be a miracle if Jubilee wins...
This reminds me of 2013 when Mcreggae and Co here were so convinced that CORD was winning that they could not take any other argument. They said....tukutane kwa debe....lol
Now some people are fully convinced that Jubilee rigged.... that 2 million voters voted for president alone (not voting for other positions) . They don't accept the numbers from IEBC on this.... and they've not asked....out of all those votes, what percentage voted for Uhuru and what percentage voted for others?
So we are back there 2013.... a huge proportion of population setting themselves up for a huge disappointment and stress again. I hope that doctors wont be on strike that crucial day of August to resuscitate some wazuans who will have suffered from heart failure after the results are announced. The country needs change.. I am willing to lead you guys, if you allow me to :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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obiero wrote:Jump-steady wrote:Liv wrote:maka wrote:kaka2za wrote:Nusu mkate Lazima!! It will be a miracle if Jubilee wins...
This reminds me of 2013 when Mcreggae and Co here were so convinced that CORD was winning that they could not take any other argument. They said....tukutane kwa debe....lol
Now some people are fully convinced that Jubilee rigged.... that 2 million voters voted for president alone (not voting for other positions) . They don't accept the numbers from IEBC on this.... and they've not asked....out of all those votes, what percentage voted for Uhuru and what percentage voted for others?
So we are back there 2013.... a huge proportion of population setting themselves up for a huge disappointment and stress again. I hope that doctors wont be on strike that crucial day of August to resuscitate some wazuans who will have suffered from heart failure after the results are announced. The country needs change.. I am willing to lead you guys, if you allow me to :) Correction,the country needs progress,not old stories and vitendawili. I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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2012 wrote:FRM2011 wrote:2012 wrote:I don't know but is there something I'm not seeing? I have tried looking at this in every way and I can't even see a hint of NASA coming anywhere close to beating Jubs. I haven't seen people with NASA t-shirts/caps/motorbike reflectors. I haven't seen their ads - billboards, posters, TV ads radio or social media where it's just supporters abusing each others. I don't know their agenda, Mdvd and Kalonzo seem to be absent in the campaigns - baba looks alone... Media coverage is half that of Jubs. Kidero, Joho and other governors have splashed their towns with their own billboards with no baba... even Joho with 21 billboards in Mombasa can't offer baba one?... Maybe it's just me. But I don't get their logic of missing the free debate by hogwash... The Jubilee duo have lined up back-to-back campaign rallies that have never been done in Kenya before. They have seen something that you haven't. They have access to the type of intel you and I can only dream about. And that intel is telling them that this is a do-or-die battle. Sadly, nobody is preparing jubilee supporters for the inevitable. I think it's subject to interpretation. Some will say it's because they are afraid while others will say it's because they want to win bigly - landslide. Fair enough. My interpretation is biased but its drawn from a story in Chinua Achebe's anthills of the Savannah. A tortoise that had been captured by a leopard pleaded with the leopard for a few minutes before being killed. It started scratching the earth furiously and raising a lot of dust. "Why are you doing that ?" The Leopard asked. " I want anyone who comes to this place to think you only killed me after a fierce struggle" And so continues the tortoise's (Jubilee) last dance.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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FRM2011 wrote:2012 wrote:FRM2011 wrote:2012 wrote:I don't know but is there something I'm not seeing? I have tried looking at this in every way and I can't even see a hint of NASA coming anywhere close to beating Jubs. I haven't seen people with NASA t-shirts/caps/motorbike reflectors. I haven't seen their ads - billboards, posters, TV ads radio or social media where it's just supporters abusing each others. I don't know their agenda, Mdvd and Kalonzo seem to be absent in the campaigns - baba looks alone... Media coverage is half that of Jubs. Kidero, Joho and other governors have splashed their towns with their own billboards with no baba... even Joho with 21 billboards in Mombasa can't offer baba one?... Maybe it's just me. But I don't get their logic of missing the free debate by hogwash... The Jubilee duo have lined up back-to-back campaign rallies that have never been done in Kenya before. They have seen something that you haven't. They have access to the type of intel you and I can only dream about. And that intel is telling them that this is a do-or-die battle. Sadly, nobody is preparing jubilee supporters for the inevitable. I think it's subject to interpretation. Some will say it's because they are afraid while others will say it's because they want to win bigly - landslide. Fair enough. My interpretation is biased but its drawn from a story in Chinua Achebe's anthills of the Savannah. A tortoise that had been captured by a leopard pleaded with the leopard for a few minutes before being killed. It started scratching the earth furiously and raising a lot of dust. "Why are you doing that ?" The Leopard asked. " I want anyone who comes to this place to think you only killed me after a fierce struggle" And so continues the tortoise's (Jubilee) last dance. What about the other ones who have now demanded the election be postponed?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,273
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,273
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obiero wrote:Jump-steady wrote:Liv wrote:maka wrote:kaka2za wrote:Nusu mkate Lazima!! It will be a miracle if Jubilee wins...
This reminds me of 2013 when Mcreggae and Co here were so convinced that CORD was winning that they could not take any other argument. They said....tukutane kwa debe....lol
Now some people are fully convinced that Jubilee rigged.... that 2 million voters voted for president alone (not voting for other positions) . They don't accept the numbers from IEBC on this.... and they've not asked....out of all those votes, what percentage voted for Uhuru and what percentage voted for others?
So we are back there 2013.... a huge proportion of population setting themselves up for a huge disappointment and stress again. I hope that doctors wont be on strike that crucial day of August to resuscitate some wazuans who will have suffered from heart failure after the results are announced. The country needs change.. I am willing to lead you guys, if you allow me to :)  @Obiero....changing clothes is not a change, you make me remember when a certain Lady told me.."I want to Change" I certainly told her to change while we were walking along Nairobi streets Guess what she replied May be Raila and Nasa want to Change also, I do not want to see them change!!!   amp; 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,906
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Realtreaty wrote:obiero wrote:Jump-steady wrote:Liv wrote:maka wrote:kaka2za wrote:Nusu mkate Lazima!! It will be a miracle if Jubilee wins...
This reminds me of 2013 when Mcreggae and Co here were so convinced that CORD was winning that they could not take any other argument. They said....tukutane kwa debe....lol
Now some people are fully convinced that Jubilee rigged.... that 2 million voters voted for president alone (not voting for other positions) . They don't accept the numbers from IEBC on this.... and they've not asked....out of all those votes, what percentage voted for Uhuru and what percentage voted for others?
So we are back there 2013.... a huge proportion of population setting themselves up for a huge disappointment and stress again. I hope that doctors wont be on strike that crucial day of August to resuscitate some wazuans who will have suffered from heart failure after the results are announced. The country needs change.. I am willing to lead you guys, if you allow me to :) @Obiero....change clothes is not a change, you make me remember when a certin Lady told me.."I want to Change" I certainly told her to change while we were walking along Nairobi streets Guess what she replied May be Raila and Nasa want to Change also, I do not want to see them change!!! amp; @obiero wachana na hawa In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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