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That, quoting a political party operative verbatim 27 days to election day! What has IEBC got to say about the issue - dont rely on a politician's mouthpiece. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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maka wrote:Nandwa wrote:maka wrote:essyk wrote:IEBC issued their statement today at noon.
Elections must go on as scheduled.Below is their program.
10th July - Meeting with all presidential candidates.
11th July- Receive Public participation views.
12th July- Review of above.
14th.. I think is the set date to start printing??
According to chebukati the burden rests with the PPOA
to draft the framework that will act as guide for public participation.
Well, they have 9th and 10th to do all that..😦😦
The PPOA still provides room for direct procurement under the following conditions.
1. if there's urgent need for goods /services being procured
2. if because of urgency the other available methods are impractical
3.if the circumstances that gave rise to the urgency were not foreseeable and not as a result of dilatory conduct on behalf of the procuring entity.
And yes IEBC will appeal says chebs.
Do we even have time to follow due process? Let them appeal...They will never win.... Why such finality? The basis of the appeal...
With judge shopping ..... Someone can say it with finality.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Ngalaka wrote:That, quoting a political party operative verbatim 27 days to election day! What has IEBC got to say about the issue - dont rely on a politician's mouthpiece. IEBC this, IEBC that...Can we for once stop the side shows and give IEBC the much needed space to prepare for the election rather than making them join us chase the wind. Even if there are double registered voters - say 1 or 2 or whatever number, for whatever reason - it really isnt an issue until - after the election - you can provide evidence that so many double registered voters 'voted twice' and made your opponent to win. we know the challenges with our voter register didn't start yesterday and it's impossible to have 100% clean register. For now, comments insinuating that whatever inconsistencies there might be in the register is an intention to rig, is to put the cart before the horse. Our laws only require IEBC to strive to achieve clean register, they have done all they can IMHO. And let's leave it at that for now.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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limanika wrote:Ngalaka wrote:That, quoting a political party operative verbatim 27 days to election day! What has IEBC got to say about the issue - dont rely on a politician's mouthpiece. IEBC this, IEBC that...Can we for once stop the side shows and give IEBC the much needed space to prepare for the election rather than making them join us chase the wind. Even if there are double registered voters - say 1 or 2 or whatever number, for whatever reason - it really isnt an issue until - after the election - you can provide evidence that so many double registered voters 'voted twice' and made your opponent to win. we know the challenges with our voter register didn't start yesterday and it's impossible to have 100% clean register. For now, comments insinuating that whatever inconsistencies there might be in the register is an intention to rig, is to put the cart before the horse. Our laws only require IEBC to strive to achieve clean register, they have done all they can IMHO. And let's leave it at that for now. providing Kshs20k hard copy emits more heat than light. IEBC is bringing itself more problems than solutions.why not provide the soft copy bad as it may be? punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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Liv wrote:[quote=newfarer]why is iebc unwilling to publish the voter register? what is there to hide if it's the one we shall use on 8.8. why are they giving the opposition a good chance to claim kiriibiwo http://www.the-star.co.k...e-listed-twice_c1594235[/quote]
Should they publish because they are required to do so by law or because NASA wants it? The law says that Commission shall, upon expiry of the period for verification publish the Register of Voters online and in such other manner as may be as may be prescribed by regulationsSome guys are reading it selectively. Can they tell us what the regulations prescribe? Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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NASA now claims that some people are listed more than once. They say that the 19m register should have only one Joseph Wafula, George Otieno, John Kamau etc. That no two people should share a name in Kenya. http://www.the-star.co.k...le-listed-twice_c1594235
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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limanika wrote:Ngalaka wrote:That, quoting a political party operative verbatim 27 days to election day! What has IEBC got to say about the issue - dont rely on a politician's mouthpiece. IEBC this, IEBC that...Can we for once stop the side shows and give IEBC the much needed space to prepare for the election rather than making them join us chase the wind. Even if there are double registered voters - say 1 or 2 or whatever number, for whatever reason - it really isnt an issue until - after the election - you can provide evidence that so many double registered voters 'voted twice' and made your opponent to win. we know the challenges with our voter register didn't start yesterday and it's impossible to have 100% clean register. For now, comments insinuating that whatever inconsistencies there might be in the register is an intention to rig, is to put the cart before the horse. Our laws only require IEBC to strive to achieve clean register, they have done all they can IMHO. And let's leave it at that for now. Its possible to have a 100% clean register... possunt quia posse videntur
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maka wrote:limanika wrote:Ngalaka wrote:That, quoting a political party operative verbatim 27 days to election day! What has IEBC got to say about the issue - dont rely on a politician's mouthpiece. IEBC this, IEBC that...Can we for once stop the side shows and give IEBC the much needed space to prepare for the election rather than making them join us chase the wind. Even if there are double registered voters - say 1 or 2 or whatever number, for whatever reason - it really isnt an issue until - after the election - you can provide evidence that so many double registered voters 'voted twice' and made your opponent to win. we know the challenges with our voter register didn't start yesterday and it's impossible to have 100% clean register. For now, comments insinuating that whatever inconsistencies there might be in the register is an intention to rig, is to put the cart before the horse. Our laws only require IEBC to strive to achieve clean register, they have done all they can IMHO. And let's leave it at that for now. Its possible to have a 100% clean register... what about the people who die between the verification and the time of voting how will they be removed??
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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limanika wrote:Ngalaka wrote:That, quoting a political party operative verbatim 27 days to election day! What has IEBC got to say about the issue - dont rely on a politician's mouthpiece. IEBC this, IEBC that...Can we for once stop the side shows and give IEBC the much needed space to prepare for the election rather than making them join us chase the wind. Even if there are double registered voters - say 1 or 2 or whatever number, for whatever reason - it really isnt an issue until - after the election - you can provide evidence that so many double registered voters 'voted twice' and made your opponent to win. we know the challenges with our voter register didn't start yesterday and it's impossible to have 100% clean register. For now, comments insinuating that whatever inconsistencies there might be in the register is an intention to rig, is to put the cart before the horse. Our laws only require IEBC to strive to achieve clean register, they have done all they can IMHO. And let's leave it at that for now. Why wait for after election if you have evidence now. If 3rd parties can pick irregularities, with limited time and resources, why can't the body mandated to clean the register do it and they have had 5 years since last election? Shouldn't we have a system that automatically rejects a double registration, i.e you can't use the same ID twice? "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:limanika wrote:Ngalaka wrote:That, quoting a political party operative verbatim 27 days to election day! What has IEBC got to say about the issue - dont rely on a politician's mouthpiece. IEBC this, IEBC that...Can we for once stop the side shows and give IEBC the much needed space to prepare for the election rather than making them join us chase the wind. Even if there are double registered voters - say 1 or 2 or whatever number, for whatever reason - it really isnt an issue until - after the election - you can provide evidence that so many double registered voters 'voted twice' and made your opponent to win. we know the challenges with our voter register didn't start yesterday and it's impossible to have 100% clean register. For now, comments insinuating that whatever inconsistencies there might be in the register is an intention to rig, is to put the cart before the horse. Our laws only require IEBC to strive to achieve clean register, they have done all they can IMHO. And let's leave it at that for now. Why wait for after election if you have evidence now. If 3rd parties can pick irregularities, with limited time and resources, why can't the body mandated to clean the register do it and they have had 5 years since last election? Shouldn't we have a system that automatically rejects a double registration, i.e you can't use the same ID twice? Why do we have electronic voter identification during voting, is it not to provide extra measure of protection in case of such eventualities..meaning they are not unexpected. And by the way, somebody has just claimed in the media that they have picked 400k cases of double registration, we do not even know if this is true or not.
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