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Joseph Ole Nkaissery
AlphDoti
#41 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 3:18:37 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
B.Timer wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hardwood wrote:

Interesting, who stands to benefit in his absence?

May he R.I.P

Well, as we mourn the fallen CS and a Soldier for Kenya, we must also underscore that life goes on for the rest of us.
We are at the peak of a charged political situation. Nkaissery himself was no stranger to active politics.

Ergo, it is only natural that we discuss and analyse our politics in the wake of his death.
So, who benefits – its anybody’s guess.
Here is one way of looking at it;

History shows us that most people’s stature in society usually spikes after death especially in the immediate after.
Those around him will try to cast their lot with him and associate even more closely with what he stood for.

If that holds, then Jubilee is likely to get a lil more votes from the Maa fraternity, since that is the direction the General was pulling at the time of his death.
To further leverage on that, Jubilee might want to nominate another Maasai to CS position in a timely manner, to fill the void left by Nkaissery.

In the interim, Matiang’i is holding forte in the ministry of interior. Kisii nation heart must be melting as a result! There is a likelihood that the basket of votes from them for Jubilee might grow somewhat –which might be crucial noting that every vote counts.

Politics by nature is very volatile. A day can indeed be a very long time in politics.

ara!

Interesting view @B.Timer Think
quicksand
#42 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 3:40:06 PM
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Joined: 7/5/2010
Posts: 2,061
Location: Nairobi
FRM2011 wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kayhara wrote:

BY THE WAY WHO IS THIS PAULINE NJOROGE?


Ndiye huyu.....




Whose fish is she?
d'oh! d'oh!


I actually don't think that is how she got there. She is a really smart girl. Very young, not yet married. And no family name to ride on. Simply pushing the boundaries until everyone takes notice. Even the NASA bloggers don't ignore her.

But that post today could expose her. Still waters run deep. That is why very few Kenyans can recognize Jomo gecaga on the streets. Yet he is among the top 5 most powerful guys in Kenya.


Everyone pays for 'access' (generally)..unless inducted to the inner circles by tall relatives or friends. Smarts is just one part of the package, its what helps you advance and stay on top once you get your foot in the door. But to get the foot in, for the fellas, you must 'contribute' to 'noble causes', share profits, a million here, two million there. For the ladies, the young, ambitious and pretty ones, kutoa suruali ni as par for the course. Later they pretend its all hard graft and intelligence and that they have never sucked one or two to enter the rarefied sanctums of top level corporate leadership,..or land a fat tender. Reality huku chini is different.
Othelo
#43 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 3:42:19 PM
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RIP General smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
Njung'e
#44 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 3:48:44 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
obiero wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Raila has been given an opportunity to comment on Nkaisserry's death and now he is lecturing the country on yesterday's ruling on ballot papers.blah,blah,blah Nini mbaya na huyu Mzee? NKT!!!

Lol

@njunge the only thing you see is Raira?

Even Uhuru has already appointed CS Matiangi as acting Cabinet Secretary at the Interior Ministry following Nkaissery's death... Life must continue bro... There are so many brah, brah, brah by every body... But you only see what you want to see


You need to see that clip and of course if you remove your NASA goggles, you will realize what he said about ballot papers and the late Nkaiserry have no connection. Anyway, live with this. Your grandfather is a hypocrite and just recently, he rapped Nkaissery but today he has different words for the departed; this is how


Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
newfarer
#45 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 3:56:51 PM
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rip.life is indeed a passing cloud.none of us knows what will happen to us the next hour as we chestthump.

nkaiserry was a passionate man on what he did
punda amecheka
alma1
#46 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:01:36 PM
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Joined: 9/19/2015
Posts: 2,871
Location: hapo
Njung'e wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
obiero wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Raila has been given an opportunity to comment on Nkaisserry's death and now he is lecturing the country on yesterday's ruling on ballot papers.blah,blah,blah Nini mbaya na huyu Mzee? NKT!!!

Lol

@njunge the only thing you see is Raira?

Even Uhuru has already appointed CS Matiangi as acting Cabinet Secretary at the Interior Ministry following Nkaissery's death... Life must continue bro... There are so many brah, brah, brah by every body... But you only see what you want to see


You need to see that clip and of course if you remove your NASA goggles, you will realize what he said about ballot papers and the late Nkaiserry have no connection. Anyway, live with this. Your grandfather is a hypocrite and just recently, he rapped Nkaissery but today he has different words for the departed; this is how




Njunge stop being childish.

Very many people even in Jubilee have rapped Nkaissery. But today is a day where African moan.

But for you, it's like everything revolves around Raira's ass. What did you want Raira to say? That he hated Nkaissery or that he was muthoni wa with Nkaissery?
Some of the comments on this forum have become like porridge being poured in a pig sty. And we are expected to take the porridge coz it's healthy.

This is an RIP thread.

But somehow someway, you had to find Raira. Bigchick had to find haters. FRM2011 had to find Pauline. The fellow who stole money from NYS and said he paid back had to figure out a childish tweet.

Hata heshima na adhabu ama ukarimu hamna. Siasa tu. Na tabia za kishenzi.

Let the family grieve. Because as we all know..Come Friday after the funeral is live on Citizen TV, none of you shall ever be seen near the family.

You shut up with your political commentary and let the family be. All of you.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

B.Timer
#47 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:03:03 PM
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Joined: 5/31/2008
Posts: 1,076
AlphDoti wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
B.Timer wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hardwood wrote:

Interesting, who stands to benefit in his absence?

May he R.I.P

Well, as we mourn the fallen CS and a Soldier for Kenya, we must also underscore that life goes on for the rest of us.
We are at the peak of a charged political situation. Nkaissery himself was no stranger to active politics.

Ergo, it is only natural that we discuss and analyse our politics in the wake of his death.
So, who benefits – its anybody’s guess.
Here is one way of looking at it;

History shows us that most people’s stature in society usually spikes after death especially in the immediate after.
Those around him will try to cast their lot with him and associate even more closely with what he stood for.

If that holds, then Jubilee is likely to get a lil more votes from the Maa fraternity, since that is the direction the General was pulling at the time of his death.
To further leverage on that, Jubilee might want to nominate another Maasai to CS position in a timely manner, to fill the void left by Nkaissery.

In the interim, Matiang’i is holding forte in the ministry of interior. Kisii nation heart must be melting as a result! There is a likelihood that the basket of votes from them for Jubilee might grow somewhat –which might be crucial noting that every vote counts.

Politics by nature is very volatile. A day can indeed be a very long time in politics.

ara!

Interesting view @B.Timer Think


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Dunia ni msongamano..
murchr
#48 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:04:45 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Rest in peace General Joseph Kasaine ole Nkaiseri. You fought a good fight.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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AlphDoti
#49 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:08:44 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
alma1 wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
obiero wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Raila has been given an opportunity to comment on Nkaisserry's death and now he is lecturing the country on yesterday's ruling on ballot papers.blah,blah,blah Nini mbaya na huyu Mzee? NKT!!!

Lol

@njunge the only thing you see is Raira?

Even Uhuru has already appointed CS Matiangi as acting Cabinet Secretary at the Interior Ministry following Nkaissery's death... Life must continue bro... There are so many brah, brah, brah by every body... But you only see what you want to see


You need to see that clip and of course if you remove your NASA goggles, you will realize what he said about ballot papers and the late Nkaiserry have no connection. Anyway, live with this. Your grandfather is a hypocrite and just recently, he rapped Nkaissery but today he has different words for the departed; this is how

Njunge stop being childish.

Very many people even in Jubilee have rapped Nkaissery. But today is a day where African moan.

But for you, it's like everything revolves around Raira's ass. What did you want Raira to say? That he hated Nkaissery or that he was muthoni wa with Nkaissery?
Some of the comments on this forum have become like porridge being poured in a pig sty. And we are expected to take the porridge coz it's healthy.

This is an RIP thread.

But somehow someway, you had to find Raira. Bigchick had to find haters. FRM2011 had to find Pauline. The fellow who stole money from NYS and said he paid back had to figure out a childish tweet.

Hata heshima na adhabu ama ukarimu hamna. Siasa tu. Na tabia za kishenzi.

Let the family grieve. Because as we all know..Come Friday after the funeral is live on Citizen TV, none of you shall ever be seen near the family.

You shut up with your political commentary and let the family be. All of you.

@guka used to be a very wise man those days of SK. But lately, partisancy.

By the way, wasn't Nkaissery a die-hard supporter of ODM until 2014 when he was plucked by Jubilee? And wasn't he known to be have very strong stands? Is it possible the "duo" couldn't arm-twist him anymore and had he had to "go"?
Njung'e
#50 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:10:11 PM
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Joined: 2/7/2007
Posts: 11,935
Location: Nairobi
alma1 wrote:
[quote=Njung'e][quote=AlphDoti][quote=obiero][quote=Njung'e]

Njunge stop being childish.

Very many people even in Jubilee have rapped Nkaissery. But today is a day where African moan.

You shut up with your political commentary and let the family be. All of you.


What did you say?. Don't waste your time on me. Ask your grandfather to know when to shut the f*** up and nobody will remember the silly things he says. BTW, he has just said Ouru should not have appointed Matiang'i the acting CS. Let's go have Viceroy on thatApplause
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
alma1
#51 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:16:12 PM
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Location: hapo
Njung'e wrote:
alma1 wrote:
[quote=Njung'e][quote=AlphDoti][quote=obiero][quote=Njung'e]

Njunge stop being childish.

Very many people even in Jubilee have rapped Nkaissery. But today is a day where African moan.

You shut up with your political commentary and let the family be. All of you.


What did you say?. Don't waste your time on me. Ask your grandfather to know when to shut the f*** up and nobody will remember the silly things he says. I digress.


Sorry..I'm not wasting my time.

I'm educating the young on this forum that sometimes kuwa na tabia za kiheshima doesn't depend on age or posts on wazua.

Your post was uncouth. And you are not digressing. Just something that you've become famous for doing on wazua lately.

Age doesn't necessarily mean wisdom. We also know it brings out dementia. Take your time and read your post here that was an opening to your hound dogs to start talking siasa za kameme here.

Let the family grieve. Ukishindwa, nitakusaidia.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Njung'e
#52 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:21:32 PM
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alma1 wrote:
[quote=Njung'e][quote=alma1][quote=Njung'e][quote=AlphDoti][quote=obiero][quote=Njung'e]

Age doesn't necessarily mean wisdom. We also know it brings out dementia. Take your time and read your post here that was an opening to your hound dogs to start talking siasa za kameme here.

Let the family grieve. Ukishindwa, nitakusaidia.


Age?. What age if i may ask....and now that you want to help, utachukuwa sabuni?smile
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
kaka2za
#53 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:23:11 PM
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could it be the general was originally from Gaitheri in Murang'a hence the name 'wagaitheri'smile
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
thuks
#54 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:33:00 PM
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Joined: 10/8/2008
Posts: 1,575
AlphDoti wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
obiero wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Raila has been given an opportunity to comment on Nkaisserry's death and now he is lecturing the country on yesterday's ruling on ballot papers.blah,blah,blah Nini mbaya na huyu Mzee? NKT!!!

Lol

@njunge the only thing you see is Raira?

Even Uhuru has already appointed CS Matiangi as acting Cabinet Secretary at the Interior Ministry following Nkaissery's death... Life must continue bro... There are so many brah, brah, brah by every body... But you only see what you want to see


You need to see that clip and of course if you remove your NASA goggles, you will realize what he said about ballot papers and the late Nkaiserry have no connection. Anyway, live with this. Your grandfather is a hypocrite and just recently, he rapped Nkaissery but today he has different words for the departed; this is how

Njunge stop being childish.

Very many people even in Jubilee have rapped Nkaissery. But today is a day where African moan.

But for you, it's like everything revolves around Raira's ass. What did you want Raira to say? That he hated Nkaissery or that he was muthoni wa with Nkaissery?
Some of the comments on this forum have become like porridge being poured in a pig sty. And we are expected to take the porridge coz it's healthy.

This is an RIP thread.

But somehow someway, you had to find Raira. Bigchick had to find haters. FRM2011 had to find Pauline. The fellow who stole money from NYS and said he paid back had to figure out a childish tweet.

Hata heshima na adhabu ama ukarimu hamna. Siasa tu. Na tabia za kishenzi.

Let the family grieve. Because as we all know..Come Friday after the funeral is live on Citizen TV, none of you shall ever be seen near the family.

You shut up with your political commentary and let the family be. All of you.

@guka used to be a very wise man those days of SK. But lately, partisancy.

By the way, wasn't Nkaissery a die-hard supporter of ODM until 2014 when he was plucked by Jubilee? And wasn't he known to be have very strong stands? Is it possible the "duo" couldn't arm-twist him anymore and had he had to "go"?


In Africa, no one 'just dies'?
I care!
alma1
#55 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:35:02 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
alma1 wrote:
[quote=Njung'e][quote=alma1][quote=Njung'e][quote=AlphDoti][quote=obiero][quote=Njung'e]

Age doesn't necessarily mean wisdom. We also know it brings out dementia. Take your time and read your post here that was an opening to your hound dogs to start talking siasa za kameme here.

Let the family grieve. Ukishindwa, nitakusaidia.


Age?. What age if i may ask....and now that you want to help, utachukuwa sabuni?smile


Why are you a gay porn star for me to wank on?

This is a very sad day for Kenya. He was a great man for those that knew him.It's very an African to bring up politics and childish comments in a public forum...All to get two points in politics.

Very sad happenings of late on wazua. Very sad. Who knows if any of us will be there when the next president is elected.

Ya Athmani kando..Siasa, we have 1000 threads on wazua. Pick one.

Let us give the respect to a man we may not have agreed with all the time. But since he was chosen, our country has been safe and secure. A man who was in Kanu, ODM, and then Gov't. He did his job. Did not choose parties. Did not mind saying his mind. Did not judge people based on tribe, religion or political parties. And we are safe for it.

Again I say. Pole to the family.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

Njung'e
#56 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:40:00 PM
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alma1 wrote:
[quote=Njung'e][quote=alma1][quote=Njung'e][quote=alma1][quote=Njung'e][quote=AlphDoti][quote=obiero][quote=Njung'e]



Again I say. Pole to the family.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Silly boy! Is that why you buy soap!
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
alma1
#57 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 4:58:54 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
alma1 wrote:
[quote=Njung'e][quote=alma1][quote=Njung'e][quote=alma1][quote=Njung'e][quote=AlphDoti][quote=obiero][quote=Njung'e]



Again I say. Pole to the family.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Silly boy! Is that why you buy soap!


For those who want to know the meaning of sad. Read the above..Sad Sad Sad Sad
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

kaka2za
#58 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:28:06 PM
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alma1 wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
alma1 wrote:
[quote=Njung'e][quote=alma1][quote=Njung'e][quote=alma1][quote=Njung'e][quote=AlphDoti][quote=obiero][quote=Njung'e]



Again I say. Pole to the family.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Silly boy! Is that why you buy soap!


For those who want to know the meaning of sad. Read the above..Sad Sad Sad Sad


The title of this thread should change to Guka vs Alma
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
harrydre
#59 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:50:38 PM
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A postmortem should be carried out. I have a feeling Nkaissery was murdered. Why & who is the big question.
i.am.back!!!!
alma1
#60 Posted : Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:51:41 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
alma1 wrote:
[quote=Njung'e][quote=alma1][quote=Njung'e][quote=alma1][quote=Njung'e][quote=AlphDoti][quote=obiero][quote=Njung'e]



Again I say. Pole to the family.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Silly boy! Is that why you buy soap!


For those who want to know the meaning of sad. Read the above..Sad Sad Sad Sad


The title of this thread should change to Guka vs Alma


Atia tia? Let him abuse those young kids with his "funny" jokes. Which have the same profiles clapping. Mimi na yeye ni kama findeo

Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

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