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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Corruption is a big word.... Quote:dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.
"the journalist who wants to expose corruption in high places"
synonyms: dishonesty, unscrupulousness, double-dealing, fraud, fraudulence, misconduct, crime, criminality, wrongdoing; bribery, venality, extortion, profiteering, payola; informal graft, grift, crookedness, sleaze
"political corruption" Hiyo ingine inaitwa ABUSE OF OFFICE! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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@Njung'e sounds like we need you to develop a curriculum . Except the final class ought to be how to keep families from fighting over the loot when the thief dies.. But seriously, I have seen arguments that corruption and economic growth can co-exist. The growth of the Asian Tigers happened despite high levels of corruption. Maybe we need to figure out the factors that enable both to exist then implement the most appropriate ones since the stealing is going nowhere.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Dahatre wrote:@Njung'e sounds like we need you to develop a curriculum . Except the final class ought to be how to keep families from fighting over the loot when the thief dies..
[/quote] Enyewe you guys are crazy  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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Where do inflated quotations come in the equation?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Dahatre wrote:@Njung'e sounds like we need you to develop a curriculum . Except the final class ought to be how to keep families from fighting over the loot when the thief dies..
[/quote] I wouldn't know stuff so i guess we enlist one or two known crooks to help  On a serious note, a friend once bribed a cop since he'd forgotten his DL. I was so mad and this is what we did. Drove back to his house and collected the DL then headed straight back to the roadblock. I walked to the cop and presented the DL and demanded a refund now that we had the DL. You should have seen the stunned face of the cop. I think he realized i was going to create a scene. He gave back the money but the walk back to the car was the longest as i was not sure the idiot would not shoot me dead. I was literally shitting bricks Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Njung'e wrote:Dahatre wrote:@Njung'e sounds like we need you to develop a curriculum . Except the final class ought to be how to keep families from fighting over the loot when the thief dies.. I wouldn't know stuff so i guess we enlist one or two known crooks to help On a serious note, a friend once bribed a cop since he'd forgotten his DL. I was so mad and this is what we did. Drove back to his house and collected the DL then headed straight back to the roadblock. I walked to the cop and presented the DL and demanded a refund now that we had the DL. You should have seen the stunned face of the cop. I think he realized i was going to create a scene. He gave back the money but the walk back to the car was the longest as i was not sure the idiot would not shoot me dead. I was literally shitting bricks @guka you're back with shie... ati " bricks" .... you'll pay for my broken ribs
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/15/2015 Posts: 817
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whats baffling is how nys scam was put underwater until the lid was blown off with so many people involved.thats a work of genius
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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radio wrote:Where do inflated quotations come in the equation? That's small stuff for any average Joe. Wish you knew how much the government and parastatals pays for pens, rulers, reams of paper, meals or toners. Utazilai. Orders below Ksh 30,000.00 are baptized as low value not subjected to tendering but in a month you get multiple orders. They just send quotation forms to pre-qualified suppliers.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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Iganamagana wrote:radio wrote:Where do inflated quotations come in the equation? That's small stuff for any average Joe. Wish you knew how much the government and parastatals pays for pens, rulers, reams of paper, meals or toners. Utazilai. Orders below Ksh 30,000.00 are baptized as low value not subjected to tendering but in a month you get multiple orders. They just send quotation forms to pre-qualified suppliers. True.I know a guy who has build flats just from supplying simple office stationaries like rulers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:whats baffling is how nys scam was put underwater until the lid was blown off with so many people involved.thats a work of genius There was no ingenuity. They couldn't not agree on how to share the loot so the short changed party blew the whistle. We only know about deals that go wrong. 95% of corrupt deals are kept under the lid Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/17/2015 Posts: 34 Location: Kitengela
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IFMIS is making stealing look easy Money from central bank to a company account to a gunia then to a quarry. Out of curiosity I googled it nani akona password?  Every Insult is an Opportunity
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Corruption is contributing to the 6% growth IMF tells us about. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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Na decoys mnaweka wapi? Kama hii
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Nyasaye!!!!! 5.2 birrionIf Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2015 Posts: 682
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There is a rumor that all governors are now billionaires. I didn't believe previously, but when the governor of Garissa of all places is caught with 5b in the accounts, it has confirmed the rumor in my view.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Mike Ock wrote:There is a rumor that all governors are now billionaires. I didn't believe previously, but when the governor of Garissa of all places is caught with 5b in the accounts, it has confirmed the rumor in my view. How much is Garissa county govt budget ? What component is development budget ? Because its impossible to steal operational budget i.e. salaries e.t.c. You'd be shocked to know that Garissa has been one of the worst performing counties in absorption of devpt budget. They have been spending less than 1B per year on development. The D*#kheads at NMG want us to believe the governor stole all that money. Finally, how dumb would the governor be to transfer 5.2B from the county's account at CBK and then let it lie idly in his account at First Community ? Would CBK allow that ? Would Aden Duale have kept quiet considering the governor is an opposition guy. BTW the money is more than the total shareholders funds at First community bank.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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FRM2011 wrote:Mike Ock wrote:There is a rumor that all governors are now billionaires. I didn't believe previously, but when the governor of Garissa of all places is caught with 5b in the accounts, it has confirmed the rumor in my view. How much is Garissa county govt budget ? What component is development budget ? Because its impossible to steal operational budget i.e. salaries e.t.c. You'd be shocked to know that Garissa has been one of the worst performing counties in absorption of devpt budget. They have been spending less than 1B per year on development. The D*#kheads at NMG want us to believe the governor stole all that money. Finally, how dumb would the governor be to transfer 5.2B from the county's account at CBK and then let it lie idly in his account at First Community ? Would CBK allow that ? Would Aden Duale have kept quiet considering the governor is an opposition guy. BTW the money is more than the total shareholders funds at First community bank. Why are you insulting guys who are just reporting what EACC told them?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:FRM2011 wrote:[quote=Mike Ock][quote=Swenani] The D*#kheads at NMG want us to believe the governor stole all that money.
Finally, how dumb would the governor be to transfer 5.2B from the county's account at CBK and then let it lie idly in his account at First Community ? Would CBK allow that ? Would Aden Duale have kept quiet considering the governor is an opposition guy.
BTW the money is more than the total shareholders funds at First community bank. Why are you insulting guys who are just reporting what EACC told them? The young man has developed ma-feelings. Signs of Pre-Election Disorder Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,703
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This is the worst form of corruption; stealing money and letting it sit in a bank account. It would have been better if he had 10 mistresses in Garissa who built houses or even bought cows with the money. This is terrible.
I do not know how to accomplish this but one of the tweaks that this devolution thing should insist on is a way to make sure that no money or at least as little money as possible leaves the county. Let all banking be done in local banks, have a way to ensure that tenders are awarded only to contractors with a local presence. The idea should be to try and ensure that all legal and corrupt expenditures of the county end up in the county.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2015 Posts: 682
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FRM2011 wrote:Mike Ock wrote:There is a rumor that all governors are now billionaires. I didn't believe previously, but when the governor of Garissa of all places is caught with 5b in the accounts, it has confirmed the rumor in my view. How much is Garissa county govt budget ? What component is development budget ? Because its impossible to steal operational budget i.e. salaries e.t.c. You'd be shocked to know that Garissa has been one of the worst performing counties in absorption of devpt budget. They have been spending less than 1B per year on development. The D*#kheads at NMG want us to believe the governor stole all that money. Finally, how dumb would the governor be to transfer 5.2B from the county's account at CBK and then let it lie idly in his account at First Community ? Would CBK allow that ? Would Aden Duale have kept quiet considering the governor is an opposition guy. BTW the money is more than the total shareholders funds at First community bank. What now, you think NMG invented a High Court ruling to smear the guy? Did they also invent quotes from the Justice on the money in the accounts? Sometimes you need to take a break from emotional electioneering arguments and examine the facts.
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