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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,273
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aemathenge wrote:Oh no he is not. You are. He is simply adept, adroit, and dexterous at exploiting your sickness in his own interests. You can't condemn a man for doing that, can you?  And this is the time he is seeing all wrong things while out of Govt? When he goes in he sees nothing as Obama blatantly answered him I can see now he has shifted Presidential tallying announcement by Presiding office as a case between Nasa vs Jubilee while it was between Nasa and IEBC. This issue was not a Nasa but an Individual good to note from Central Region who said the Law has never been followed to the best. Raila and Nasa took that as their own because they thought it fights incumbency. So You and him must be sick somewhere!!! IEBC was fighting Accountbility. Now court says this is delegated to Presiding officers on the ground. Did you notice the Kreigler report blaming both Govt and Opposition for tallying more votes than registered voters? So now the ball in Presiding officials who can give evidence against anything. These officers belong to IEBC and guide by their SOPs. Do not be myopic thinking any improvement favours Rao and not Uhuru.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,273
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What happens after a Man seduces a Lady whom she want only to lay? After laying her the man cut links!! Hooollalaa yawa "Melon" Now the battle for ODM/Nasa begins past GE after Luos see nothingness in Kalonzo whom they laid.  No wonder Kambas are warning their folks to be careful this time as they will get the shock of their life. http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/...ripple-2022-bid_c1584923
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Realtreaty wrote:aemathenge wrote:Oh no he is not. You are. He is simply adept, adroit, and dexterous at exploiting your sickness in his own interests. You can't condemn a man for doing that, can you? And this is the time he is seeing all wrong things while out of Govt? When he goes in he sees nothing as Obama blatantly answered him I can see now he has shifted Presidential tallying announcement by Presiding office as a case between Nasa vs Jubilee while it was between Nasa and IEBC. This issue was not a Nasa but an Individual good to note from Central Region who said the Law has never been followed to the best. Raila and Nasa took that as their own because they thought it fights incumbency. So You and him must be sick somewhere!!! IEBC was fighting Accountbility. Now court says this is delegated to Presiding officers on the ground. Did you notice the Kreigler report blaming both Govt and Opposition for tallying more votes than registered voters? So now the ball in Presiding officials who can give evidence against anything. These officers belong to IEBC and guide by their SOPs. Do not be myopic thinking any improvement favours Rao and not Uhuru. My day job involves translating mathogothanio like the above into something discernible. This one, unfortunately, is beyond me.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,273
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Will Joshua really enter Canaan drunk? He may die on the way before entering there!!! http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Ra...984560-xeli0u/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,273
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aemathenge wrote:Realtreaty wrote:aemathenge wrote:Oh no he is not. You are. He is simply adept, adroit, and dexterous at exploiting your sickness in his own interests. You can't condemn a man for doing that, can you? And this is the time he is seeing all wrong things while out of Govt? When he goes in he sees nothing as Obama blatantly answered him I can see now he has shifted Presidential tallying announcement by Presiding office as a case between Nasa vs Jubilee while it was between Nasa and IEBC. This issue was not a Nasa but an Individual good to note from Central Region who said the Law has never been followed to the best. Raila and Nasa took that as their own because they thought it fights incumbency. So You and him must be sick somewhere!!! IEBC was fighting Accountbility. Now court says this is delegated to Presiding officers on the ground. Did you notice the Kreigler report blaming both Govt and Opposition for tallying more votes than registered voters? So now the ball in Presiding officials who can give evidence against anything. These officers belong to IEBC and guide by their SOPs. Do not be myopic thinking any improvement favours Rao and not Uhuru. My day job involves translating mathogothanio like the above into something discernible. This one, unfortunately, is beyond me. That proves you are SICK as your god!!! Same rotting Fish
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Realtreaty wrote: That proves you are SICK as your god!!! Same rotting Fish My sentiments, exactly. How about a dose of sickness. Raila vs Uhuru: A story of contrasts in leadershipBy SOSPETER OTIENO Extracts: Quote:President Uhuru Kenyatta and Raila Odinga both start off from dynastic backgrounds.
One of them was spoon-fed in the right-wing corridors of comfort and oligarchy. The other is a product of persecution and prosecution.
When gauged in the lens of leadership and staying true to convictions in times of adversity, Raila is by far a superior leader.
What leadership has Uhuru displayed, absent the state machine?
As a scion of Kenya’s oligarchy, Uhuru knew no better way to do politics other than from the confines of the state monolith and hegemony.
Raila is a portrait of a battle-hardened political insurgent, who for decades has on behalf of the masses, borne the brunt of state intimidation and detention, right from the Odinga household, to build complex global networks to not only attain incredible business success but also cut himself a niche as the fulcrum of Kenya’s politics.
Uhuru’s over-reliance on State House patronage from two presidents — Moi and later Kibaki — for the attainment of his political ends smacks of a deficiency of self-initiative, and innovation that surely denies him the legacy of a politician with the self-confidence to create and then sustain a political formation in an adversarial environment.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Hate 52% Fear 46% others 2% Be prepared for any eventuality. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,729
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we have seen what the fear and need for change can bring, good examples are Trump and Theresa May, Kenyans dont need to learn from anywhere else, you get RAO you are in shit Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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freiks wrote:we have seen what the fear and need for change can bring, good examples are Trump and Theresa May, Kenyans dont need to learn from anywhere else, you get RAO you are in shit We are already in shit!  Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,273
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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kaka2za wrote:freiks wrote:we have seen what the fear and need for change can bring, good examples are Trump and Theresa May, Kenyans dont need to learn from anywhere else, you get RAO you are in shit We are already in shit! real bad one,can't get worse. economy crumbling, uchumi ,nakumatt,banks down ,companies retrenching, no jobs no unga ,massive corruption by top government officials no action, ouch . let someone else try. punda amecheka
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/5/2008 Posts: 532 Location: Nairobi
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Ule jamaa wa kipindupindu ndiye ata angusha uhuru. Thank me later for telling you this.
Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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I am hearing news (unconfirmed so far) of a shooting incident in vihiga following president's visit today.
Apparently, crowds got rowdy and police used guns to restore order. Sad if true but we shall wait for details.
Vihiga gave Uhuru less votes percentage-wise than Kisumu. It is fiercely pro-nasa.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/5/2008 Posts: 532 Location: Nairobi
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why do you quote a phony professor?
Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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newfarer wrote:kaka2za wrote:freiks wrote:we have seen what the fear and need for change can bring, good examples are Trump and Theresa May, Kenyans dont need to learn from anywhere else, you get RAO you are in shit We are already in shit! real bad one,can't get worse. economy crumbling, uchumi ,nakumatt,banks down
,companies retrenching, no jobs no unga ,massive corruption by top government officials no action, ouch
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let someone else try. I find this sentence to be pedestrian Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,273
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So we have a Horse and a Mule here......forget the Donkeys, let them keep mating.
The Horse and the mule are attracting larger and Large crowds respectively just to mention.
The BIG QUESTION is who actually own these crowds.
To quote Matiba the people are individuals put together to listen on what will/can protect them. win them over etc and they DECIDE!!!
The large crowds existing not just because of Uhuru or Raila, in fact most of them are there because of electing MCAs, Women Reps, MPs, Senators and Governors who most of the time accompany the Horse and the Mule
As I can say Presidential Presiding officer issue as the sole person to announce results at his area was never a Jubilee nor a Nasa issue but by a common mwananchi.
That was later hijacked by Nasa when IEBC appealed.
The lawyers and morticians gave their part as per law or interest of their own.
Hence because it hurts nowhere the court opted to give the guy on the ground the sole mic to pronounce the outcome at their level to remove speculations.
Now to say RIGGING is a stupid WORD!!!
In case of disputes the PO refers to his notes!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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Fyatu wrote:newfarer wrote:kaka2za wrote:freiks wrote:we have seen what the fear and need for change can bring, good examples are Trump and Theresa May, Kenyans dont need to learn from anywhere else, you get RAO you are in shit We are already in shit! real bad one,can't get worse. economy crumbling, uchumi ,nakumatt,banks down
,companies retrenching, no jobs no unga ,massive corruption by top government officials no action, ouch
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let someone else try. I find this sentence to be pedestrian why? which is a none fact here ? are uchumi and nakumatt employees paid their may salaries? if due to mismanagement has someone been jailed since it's a criminal offence? do we have unga ? has any big corrupt calprit been jailed? aren't companies retrenching right left and center.if the government can't trace the purported massive maize imports which has been subsidised how will they trace thieves ,national debt trippling in 4 years. too much hopelessness on the ground. punda amecheka
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/5/2008 Posts: 532 Location: Nairobi
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FRM2011 wrote:
I am hearing news (unconfirmed so far) of a shooting incident in vihiga following president's visit today.
Apparently, crowds got rowdy and police used guns to restore order. Sad if true but we shall wait for details.
Vihiga gave Uhuru less votes percentage-wise than Kisumu. It is fiercely pro-nasa.
Jubilee doesn't know. Dead people dont vote. Why kill them?
Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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FRM2011 wrote:
I am hearing news (unconfirmed so far) of a shooting incident in vihiga following president's visit today.
Apparently, crowds got rowdy and police used guns to restore order. Sad if true but we shall wait for details.
Vihiga gave Uhuru less votes percentage-wise than Kisumu. It is fiercely pro-nasa.
It is well understood.From where you stand you are unlikely to hear anything positive coming from where Uhuruto has been. For me such happenning is part and parcel of campaigns.I must say this years campaign has been relatively free of such incidences. And BTW there is no urgueing about Vihiga being pro NASA.It is true.All Uhuruto are doing is to try and get a small %age from there.Even if its 1% extra it will mean something. Meanwhile we await the final register...... Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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