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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Ngalaka wrote:In his ruling the Judge offered that there are grounds enough to bar Wavinya from running, but he chose not to venture there, restricting himself to the grounds which IEBC had cited in nullifying her candidature. LinkQuote:“The court has found that other issues raised as the basis for justification of the committee’s verdict were not grounds upon which IEBC made its decision,” he said.
“It may well be that had the committee based its decision on the issues raised before me, a different outcome might have been reached.”
That means in a substantive hearing of the issues, ably prosecuted, Wavinya is likely to be barred. We know not if the court of appeal will also restrict itself as Judge Odunga did, or it will opt to interrogate the real issues in order to mete out justice substantively as opposed to technical circumventions, which are unduly preferred and pursued more than anything else by litigants who have something to hide. Ummmh Boss...CA only restricts itself to matters of law.It cannot start interrogating new evidence. If IEBC did not rely on the grounds you are claiming its their fault not the judges' Plus Res Judicata has kicked in....  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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maka wrote:Ngalaka wrote:In his ruling the Judge offered that there are grounds enough to bar Wavinya from running, but he chose not to venture there, restricting himself to the grounds which IEBC had cited in nullifying her candidature. LinkQuote:“The court has found that other issues raised as the basis for justification of the committee’s verdict were not grounds upon which IEBC made its decision,” he said.
“It may well be that had the committee based its decision on the issues raised before me, a different outcome might have been reached.”
That means in a substantive hearing of the issues, ably prosecuted, Wavinya is likely to be barred. We know not if the court of appeal will also restrict itself as Judge Odunga did, or it will opt to interrogate the real issues in order to mete out justice substantively as opposed to technical circumventions, which are unduly preferred and pursued more than anything else by litigants who have something to hide. Ummmh Boss...CA only restricts itself to matters of law.It cannot start interrogating new evidence. If IEBC did not rely on the grounds you are claiming its their fault not the judges' Plus Res Judicata has kicked in.... Kinda like " Yaliyo ndwele sipite" "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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maka wrote:Ngalaka wrote:In his ruling the Judge offered that there are grounds enough to bar Wavinya from running, but he chose not to venture there, restricting himself to the grounds which IEBC had cited in nullifying her candidature. LinkQuote:“The court has found that other issues raised as the basis for justification of the committee’s verdict were not grounds upon which IEBC made its decision,” he said.
“It may well be that had the committee based its decision on the issues raised before me, a different outcome might have been reached.”
That means in a substantive hearing of the issues, ably prosecuted, Wavinya is likely to be barred. We know not if the court of appeal will also restrict itself as Judge Odunga did, or it will opt to interrogate the real issues in order to mete out justice substantively as opposed to technical circumventions, which are unduly preferred and pursued more than anything else by litigants who have something to hide. Ummmh Boss...CA only restricts itself to matters of law.It cannot start interrogating new evidence. If IEBC did not rely on the grounds you are claiming its their fault not the judges' Plus Res Judicata has kicked in.... At no point did I say Judge Odunga is at fault. At that court of appeal, the appellant might argue that he presented all evidence and argued his case citing all dimensions of it, but IEBC chose to rely and or only cite a narrow and limited spectrum of his argument in their ruling. As such IEBC’s deficiencies shouldn’t subject him to suffering inequity as well as cause a general miscarriage of justice. If that be so, the matter of “Plus Res Judicata” does not arise at all. In any case such matters are considered differently by different judges. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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How can anyone in their right mind support this kind of electoral theft aka rigging????? How do you put such thieves into power????? @maka you should be ashamed of yourself. http://nairobiwire.com/2...tis-inflated-votes.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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murchr wrote:maka wrote:Ngalaka wrote:In his ruling the Judge offered that there are grounds enough to bar Wavinya from running, but he chose not to venture there, restricting himself to the grounds which IEBC had cited in nullifying her candidature. LinkQuote:“The court has found that other issues raised as the basis for justification of the committee’s verdict were not grounds upon which IEBC made its decision,” he said.
“It may well be that had the committee based its decision on the issues raised before me, a different outcome might have been reached.”
That means in a substantive hearing of the issues, ably prosecuted, Wavinya is likely to be barred. We know not if the court of appeal will also restrict itself as Judge Odunga did, or it will opt to interrogate the real issues in order to mete out justice substantively as opposed to technical circumventions, which are unduly preferred and pursued more than anything else by litigants who have something to hide. Ummmh Boss...CA only restricts itself to matters of law.It cannot start interrogating new evidence. If IEBC did not rely on the grounds you are claiming its their fault not the judges' Plus Res Judicata has kicked in.... Kinda like " Yaliyo ndwele sipite"  I heard that one.And I remembered beginning of Ramadhan she sent IDD MUBARAK instead of Ramadhan Kareem.She must have scored a D plain this one. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:maka wrote:Ngalaka wrote:In his ruling the Judge offered that there are grounds enough to bar Wavinya from running, but he chose not to venture there, restricting himself to the grounds which IEBC had cited in nullifying her candidature. LinkQuote:“The court has found that other issues raised as the basis for justification of the committee’s verdict were not grounds upon which IEBC made its decision,” he said.
“It may well be that had the committee based its decision on the issues raised before me, a different outcome might have been reached.”
That means in a substantive hearing of the issues, ably prosecuted, Wavinya is likely to be barred. We know not if the court of appeal will also restrict itself as Judge Odunga did, or it will opt to interrogate the real issues in order to mete out justice substantively as opposed to technical circumventions, which are unduly preferred and pursued more than anything else by litigants who have something to hide. Ummmh Boss...CA only restricts itself to matters of law.It cannot start interrogating new evidence. If IEBC did not rely on the grounds you are claiming its their fault not the judges' Plus Res Judicata has kicked in.... Kinda like " Yaliyo ndwele sipite" I heard that one.And I remembered beginning of Ramadhan she sent IDD MUBARAK instead of Ramadhan Kareem.She must have scored a D plain this one. She really got me confused yesterday. And the confidence she had while saying that....  I had to consult further. Waa! "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:maka wrote:Ngalaka wrote:In his ruling the Judge offered that there are grounds enough to bar Wavinya from running, but he chose not to venture there, restricting himself to the grounds which IEBC had cited in nullifying her candidature. LinkQuote:“The court has found that other issues raised as the basis for justification of the committee’s verdict were not grounds upon which IEBC made its decision,” he said.
“It may well be that had the committee based its decision on the issues raised before me, a different outcome might have been reached.”
That means in a substantive hearing of the issues, ably prosecuted, Wavinya is likely to be barred. We know not if the court of appeal will also restrict itself as Judge Odunga did, or it will opt to interrogate the real issues in order to mete out justice substantively as opposed to technical circumventions, which are unduly preferred and pursued more than anything else by litigants who have something to hide. Ummmh Boss...CA only restricts itself to matters of law.It cannot start interrogating new evidence. If IEBC did not rely on the grounds you are claiming its their fault not the judges' Plus Res Judicata has kicked in.... Kinda like " Yaliyo ndwele sipite" I heard that one.And I remembered beginning of Ramadhan she sent IDD MUBARAK instead of Ramadhan Kareem.She must have scored a D plain this one. She really got me confused yesterday. And the confidence she had while saying that.... I had to consult further. Waa! possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Posts: 175
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maka wrote:murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:maka wrote:Ngalaka wrote:In his ruling the Judge offered that there are grounds enough to bar Wavinya from running, but he chose not to venture there, restricting himself to the grounds which IEBC had cited in nullifying her candidature. LinkQuote:“The court has found that other issues raised as the basis for justification of the committee’s verdict were not grounds upon which IEBC made its decision,” he said.
“It may well be that had the committee based its decision on the issues raised before me, a different outcome might have been reached.”
That means in a substantive hearing of the issues, ably prosecuted, Wavinya is likely to be barred. We know not if the court of appeal will also restrict itself as Judge Odunga did, or it will opt to interrogate the real issues in order to mete out justice substantively as opposed to technical circumventions, which are unduly preferred and pursued more than anything else by litigants who have something to hide. Ummmh Boss...CA only restricts itself to matters of law.It cannot start interrogating new evidence. If IEBC did not rely on the grounds you are claiming its their fault not the judges' Plus Res Judicata has kicked in.... Kinda like " Yaliyo ndwele sipite" I heard that one.And I remembered beginning of Ramadhan she sent IDD MUBARAK instead of Ramadhan Kareem. She must have scored a D plain this one.
She really got me confused yesterday. And the confidence she had while saying that.... I had to consult further. Waa! one last time language a mean of communication and not a measure of intelligence Some you win some you lose
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 489
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She could very well become the most prominent Kamba politician in the next 5 yrs.
Consider this:
Jubilee wins but Sonko loses.
It will also mean that there'll be no Kamba politician at the national space sinxe the Nairobi gvnor is like a national leader.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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yaliyo ndwele sipite http://www.nation.co.ke/...14512-epfgev/index.html
Mutua should be a worried man. we might just have the first woman governor. any way Machakos is blessed to have these 2 performers punda amecheka
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