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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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kaka2za wrote:The more I read the legal arguments the more confused I get.
Senior Counsel Orengo argued that the PO will announce the final results but Chebukati will declare the winner! I thought this has been the practice all through! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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kaka2za wrote:kaka2za wrote:The more I read the legal arguments the more confused I get.
Senior Counsel Orengo argued that the PO will announce the final results but Chebukati will declare the winner! I thought this has been the practice all through! It's been the practise. However, previously, if PO in some nondescript outpost added a zero or two at the end, chebukati would have had a chance to correct the mess. As of now he's reduced to a conduit. But really crux of the matter is someone believes he will always be rigged out at kicc now, he wants to toss the coin...I.e rig at the mashinani and have no chance for iebc to correct the mess
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/1/2008 Posts: 1,098
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limanika wrote:kaka2za wrote:kaka2za wrote:The more I read the legal arguments the more confused I get.
Senior Counsel Orengo argued that the PO will announce the final results but Chebukati will declare the winner! I thought this has been the practice all through! It's been the practise. However, previously, if PO in some nondescript outpost added a zero or two at the end, chebukati would have had a chance to correct the mess. As of now he's reduced to a conduit. But really crux of the matter is someone believes he will always be rigged out at kicc now, he wants to toss the coin...I.e rig at the mashinani and have no chance for iebc to correct the mess The centre referee should be the only one with the whistle. Apana linesmen! But goal line technology should apply 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Jump-steady wrote:limanika wrote:kaka2za wrote:kaka2za wrote:The more I read the legal arguments the more confused I get.
Senior Counsel Orengo argued that the PO will announce the final results but Chebukati will declare the winner! I thought this has been the practice all through! It's been the practise. However, previously, if PO in some nondescript outpost added a zero or two at the end, chebukati would have had a chance to correct the mess. As of now he's reduced to a conduit. But really crux of the matter is someone believes he will always be rigged out at kicc now, he wants to toss the coin...I.e rig at the mashinani and have no chance for iebc to correct the mess The centre referee should be the only one with the whistle. Apana linesmen! But goal line technology should apply To be fair..we arent saying IEBC should alter the results...but they should be able to verify the results as required by the constitution. What is verification? If for particular constituency IEBC finds the number of actual votes exceeds number of registered voters. shouldn't they check results from all polling stations in that constituency, and pick out where the anomaly is...The final announcement should include outcome of the verification exercise. And interested political party reps should be part of this process every step of the way...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,939
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After the Machakos NASWA fiasco, we will not even need this gallery play!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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limanika wrote:Jump-steady wrote:limanika wrote:kaka2za wrote:kaka2za wrote:The more I read the legal arguments the more confused I get.
Senior Counsel Orengo argued that the PO will announce the final results but Chebukati will declare the winner! I thought this has been the practice all through! It's been the practise. However, previously, if PO in some nondescript outpost added a zero or two at the end, chebukati would have had a chance to correct the mess. As of now he's reduced to a conduit. But really crux of the matter is someone believes he will always be rigged out at kicc now, he wants to toss the coin...I.e rig at the mashinani and have no chance for iebc to correct the mess The centre referee should be the only one with the whistle. Apana linesmen! But goal line technology should apply To be fair..we arent saying IEBC should alter the results...but they should be able to verify the results as required by the constitution. What is verification? If for particular constituency IEBC finds the number of actual votes exceeds number of registered voters. shouldn't they check results from all polling stations in that constituency, and pick out where the anomaly is...The final announcement should include outcome of the verification exercise. And interested political party reps should be part of this process every step of the way... We seem to be 100% agreement. Funny we all seem to understand what the word verify means but lawyers are going round and round discussing the same.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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I am not a registered voter but the more time I spent online, the more confused I become about this issue. Here is a sample that gives me a headache. Rink
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,723
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It is a whole new world. Until January 20, 2017 there was global policeman in the name of the US who could threaten consequences for governance misconduct. The US, UK and Europe have enough on their plate to put any pressure on Kenya.
We have no choice but to completely trust our institutions. IEBC will announce whoever they think wins. The supreme court will make their ruling should a case be presented to them. The third thing which is different this time is that the president will be at complete liberty without worrying about consequences to use all the powers at his disposal to quell unrest should any arise. If Raila wins he must win on the ballot or in the supreme court because if it comes to mass action UK has the upper hand because he has the police.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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aemathenge wrote:I am not a registered voter but the more time I spent online, the more confused I become about this issue. Here is a sample that gives me a headache. Rink Why would you get headaches over an event you have chosen not to participate in? Your vote is your voice. You should register and then decide to vote or not. Your voice is much stronger if you reduce the turn out that when you do not even exist in the count.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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2012 wrote:aemathenge wrote:I am not a registered voter but the more time I spent online, the more confused I become about this issue. Here is a sample that gives me a headache. Rink Why would you get headaches over an event you have chosen not to participate in? Your vote is your voice. You should register and then decide to vote or not. Your voice is much stronger if you reduce the turn out that when you do not even exist in the count. The 2017 erections are an avenue to make money for me. My clients, most on opposing teams, will work with me only if I am NOT registered as a voter. And as you so aptly put it, Everyone has (I have) a right to be stupid;. My headache arises from the clarity with which players can deduce their opponents will rig but fail to remove the specks on their own eyes.
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