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Mkondoa Macho wrote:It is technically impossible to save Kenya Airways. Instead, the government should use the money it regularly saves KQ with, to launch an alternative airline that is wholly owned by the government (strictly no other investors). My reasoning is that KLM is the parasite that eats KQ from within, and at this point, it is impossible to get rid of it. The government should retain it's KQ shares, and watch KQ slide into insolvency. When the airline's assets are auctioned, it will get some as a shareholder, and as a creditor. These assets can then be used by the new airline which it will wholly own. Bingo! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Sir Jones wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:mamilli wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Mkondoa Macho wrote:It is technically impossible to save Kenya Airways. Instead, the government should use the money it regularly saves KQ with, to launch an alternative airline that is wholly owned by the government (strictly no other investors). My reasoning is that KLM is the parasite that eats KQ from within, and at this point, it is impossible to get rid of it. The government should retain it's KQ shares, and watch KQ slide into insolvency. When the airline's assets are auctioned, it will get some as a shareholder, and as a creditor. These assets can then be used by the new airline which it will wholly own. Wakuondoka watoke pole pole.. Hii kitu haijaeleweka na wengi Jipe moyo @Obiero as thousands of shareholders are forcing their way out to escape the wrath of restructuring aka turnaround! Niko gangari.. Wakutoka watoke.. Planning to load up on Wednesday It's usually said that the prudent thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging....however if you continue digging who knows,you might strike gold at lower depths! Or alltogether exit from the other side of the world? As quoted by Baron Rothschild,"The time to buy is when there's blood in the streets" .This is the best time to make some money here. You misunderstand that quote. He didn't mean buy insolvent loss making companies. He meant buy quality companies trading at less than their intrinsic values. Perspective.. It's very personal There is nothing like perspective when quoting what an expert said, unless you are a fan of Donald Trump. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Sir Jones wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:mamilli wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Mkondoa Macho wrote:It is technically impossible to save Kenya Airways. Instead, the government should use the money it regularly saves KQ with, to launch an alternative airline that is wholly owned by the government (strictly no other investors). My reasoning is that KLM is the parasite that eats KQ from within, and at this point, it is impossible to get rid of it. The government should retain it's KQ shares, and watch KQ slide into insolvency. When the airline's assets are auctioned, it will get some as a shareholder, and as a creditor. These assets can then be used by the new airline which it will wholly own. Wakuondoka watoke pole pole.. Hii kitu haijaeleweka na wengi Jipe moyo @Obiero as thousands of shareholders are forcing their way out to escape the wrath of restructuring aka turnaround! Niko gangari.. Wakutoka watoke.. Planning to load up on Wednesday It's usually said that the prudent thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging....however if you continue digging who knows,you might strike gold at lower depths! Or alltogether exit from the other side of the world? As quoted by Baron Rothschild,"The time to buy is when there's blood in the streets" .This is the best time to make some money here. You misunderstand that quote. He didn't mean buy insolvent loss making companies. He meant buy quality companies trading at less than their intrinsic values. Perspective.. It's very personal There is nothing like perspective when quoting what an expert said, unless you are a fan of Donald Trump. Could not have said it better my dear.there is no blood here to buy, this is a rotten carcass. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Sir Jones wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:mamilli wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Mkondoa Macho wrote:It is technically impossible to save Kenya Airways. Instead, the government should use the money it regularly saves KQ with, to launch an alternative airline that is wholly owned by the government (strictly no other investors). My reasoning is that KLM is the parasite that eats KQ from within, and at this point, it is impossible to get rid of it. The government should retain it's KQ shares, and watch KQ slide into insolvency. When the airline's assets are auctioned, it will get some as a shareholder, and as a creditor. These assets can then be used by the new airline which it will wholly own. Wakuondoka watoke pole pole.. Hii kitu haijaeleweka na wengi Jipe moyo @Obiero as thousands of shareholders are forcing their way out to escape the wrath of restructuring aka turnaround! Niko gangari.. Wakutoka watoke.. Planning to load up on Wednesday It's usually said that the prudent thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging....however if you continue digging who knows,you might strike gold at lower depths! Or alltogether exit from the other side of the world? As quoted by Baron Rothschild,"The time to buy is when there's blood in the streets" .This is the best time to make some money here. You misunderstand that quote. He didn't mean buy insolvent loss making companies. He meant buy quality companies trading at less than their intrinsic values. Perspective.. It's very personal There is nothing like perspective when quoting what an expert said, unless you are a fan of Donald Trump. Could not have said it better my dear.there is no blood here to buy, this is a rotten carcass. Gai..Carcass surely COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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Tomorrow KQ moves swiftly to sub 6/- John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Sir Jones wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:mamilli wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Mkondoa Macho wrote:It is technically impossible to save Kenya Airways. Instead, the government should use the money it regularly saves KQ with, to launch an alternative airline that is wholly owned by the government (strictly no other investors). My reasoning is that KLM is the parasite that eats KQ from within, and at this point, it is impossible to get rid of it. The government should retain it's KQ shares, and watch KQ slide into insolvency. When the airline's assets are auctioned, it will get some as a shareholder, and as a creditor. These assets can then be used by the new airline which it will wholly own. Wakuondoka watoke pole pole.. Hii kitu haijaeleweka na wengi Jipe moyo @Obiero as thousands of shareholders are forcing their way out to escape the wrath of restructuring aka turnaround! Niko gangari.. Wakutoka watoke.. Planning to load up on Wednesday It's usually said that the prudent thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging....however if you continue digging who knows,you might strike gold at lower depths! Or alltogether exit from the other side of the world? As quoted by Baron Rothschild,"The time to buy is when there's blood in the streets" .This is the best time to make some money here. You misunderstand that quote. He didn't mean buy insolvent loss making companies. He meant buy quality companies trading at less than their intrinsic values. Perspective.. It's very personal There is nothing like perspective when quoting what an expert said, unless you are a fan of Donald Trump. Could not have said it better my dear.there is no blood here to buy, this is a rotten carcass. Gai..Carcass surely @obiero, imagine, mzoga mozu. You are able to stomach this deal since the cook only just cleaned it in lemon juice after rinsing over and over again. Then you ignored the tell tale scent and you over did the spicing thing here at wazua by preaching to every corner off the world. Stop blind folding urself and see the light. Otherwise usiwe nashida kuwa karibu na choo soon out of the obvious. Anyway, I wish you were a choir master in my church, since the congregation would swell and my offerings would grow ten fold.   ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:Sir Jones wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:mamilli wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:obiero wrote:Mkondoa Macho wrote:It is technically impossible to save Kenya Airways. Instead, the government should use the money it regularly saves KQ with, to launch an alternative airline that is wholly owned by the government (strictly no other investors). My reasoning is that KLM is the parasite that eats KQ from within, and at this point, it is impossible to get rid of it. The government should retain it's KQ shares, and watch KQ slide into insolvency. When the airline's assets are auctioned, it will get some as a shareholder, and as a creditor. These assets can then be used by the new airline which it will wholly own. Wakuondoka watoke pole pole.. Hii kitu haijaeleweka na wengi Jipe moyo @Obiero as thousands of shareholders are forcing their way out to escape the wrath of restructuring aka turnaround! Niko gangari.. Wakutoka watoke.. Planning to load up on Wednesday It's usually said that the prudent thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging....however if you continue digging who knows,you might strike gold at lower depths! Or alltogether exit from the other side of the world? As quoted by Baron Rothschild,"The time to buy is when there's blood in the streets" .This is the best time to make some money here. You misunderstand that quote. He didn't mean buy insolvent loss making companies. He meant buy quality companies trading at less than their intrinsic values. Perspective.. It's very personal There is nothing like perspective when quoting what an expert said, unless you are a fan of Donald Trump. Could not have said it better my dear.there is no blood here to buy, this is a rotten carcass. Gai..Carcass surely @obiero, imagine, mzoga mozu. You are able to stomach this deal since the cook only just cleaned it in lemon juice after rinsing over and over again. Then you ignored the tell tale scent and you over did the spicing thing here at wazua by preaching to every corner off the world. Stop blind folding urself and see the light. Otherwise usiwe nashida kuwa karibu na choo soon out of the obvious. Anyway, I wish you were a choir master in my church, since the congregation would swell and my offerings would grow ten fold. Haha haha. Thanks for the vote of confidence COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:[quote=Ericsson]http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Small-KQ-shareholders-face-big-stake-cut/539546-3962316-pbbpmwz/index.html
More than 78,000 small Kenya Airways shareholders are set for a massive dilution of their stake in the ongoing restructuring that could leave them owning only about 6.7 per cent of the national carrier from 43.7 per cent
We are looking at a possible dilution to current shareholders of approximately 5.7 times, which translates to a diluted market price of approximately Sh1.2 per share,” says Genghis in a research note sent to its clients on Thursday. 1.2 per KQ share is laughable, but even if we touch it, a rapid rise back to KES 10 or more, is guaranteed.. Michael Joseph should be made the President of Kenya.. A visionary with few equals.. Probably only Kibaki is in his league of thought We wait to see how many issued shares of KQ it will be before coming with conclusion that it will rise to 10. Michael Joseph will bolt out along the way.Hii kitu inanuka vibaya sana. You are forgetting there will be a debt of 77bn Usikonde kwa niaba yetu.. Tuko fiti. By the way, your understanding of stock pricing is questionable. It's not about the number of shares issued but the turnaround.. Once traction kicks in, even KES 40 per KQ share shall be a possibility.. Not to forget that there will be heightened illiquidity to push off the clowns from KQ investment Obiero wacha kudanganya watu hapa.Thinking KQ with 10bn shares will reach 40 is taking us to be fools Can Safaricom reach KES 30 with their 40B shares. KCB once traded at KES 265 per share with close to 3B issued shares @Obiero stupid stupid stupid when did KCB trade at 265 with 3bn shares. Your understanding of shares is now in question Haha. Seems im dealing with a toddler who results to tantrums rather than checking the facts.. http://allafrica.com/stories/200703051609.html[/quote] I repeat you are stupid.The article mentions share split.You do not even know what was the issued shares of KCB before that split Hehe.. Then simply tell us, wiseman 199mn shares @Ericsson.. we appreciate your wise counsel. May you live long with your high intelligence. bloody nugu!! Could someone please assist to fact check this mofo with a link. I do not like how these kids of nowadays behave COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:
199mn shares
@Ericsson.. we appreciate your wise counsel. May you live long with your high intelligence. bloody nugu!! Could someone please assist to fact check this mofo with a link. I do not like how these kids of nowadays behave CMA 2017 Quarter1 Statistical Bulletin2004 - Rights Issue 2007 - Split 10:1 2008 - Rights Issue 2010 - Rights Issue (2016 - Scrip)    Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,321 Location: nairobi
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Pesa Nane wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:
199mn shares
@Ericsson.. we appreciate your wise counsel. May you live long with your high intelligence. bloody nugu!! Could someone please assist to fact check this mofo with a link. I do not like how these kids of nowadays behave CMA 2017 Quarter1 Statistical Bulletin2004 - Rights Issue 2007 - Split 10:1 2008 - Rights Issue 2010 - Rights Issue (2016 - Scrip) Thanks for the update.. However, the jpegs do not show total issued shares as at time of stock split for KCB.. This link shows 2.2B issued shares post 2008 rights issue. How @Ericsson comes up with the 199 shares remains a modern mystery http://www.cmarcp.or.ke/...kcb-rights-issue-1/file
 COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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