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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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As our useless muppets traverse the country making promises they will never keep and issuing cheques that will bounce, have they even considered what will happen to them if the kids come out to vote? Will the kids vote by tribe? Are they loyal to the tribal ruler? Will 500 bob handouts sway them? Can they think beyond the day? The UK has just seen team 18-24 come out and fix them...will it happen here? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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KulaRaha wrote:As our useless muppets traverse the country making promises they will never keep and issuing cheques that will bounce, have they even considered what will happen to them if the kids come out to vote?
Will the kids vote by tribe? Are they loyal to the tribal ruler? Will 500 bob handouts sway them? Can they think beyond the day?
The UK has just seen team 18-24 come out and fix them...will it happen here? that constituency does not exist yet
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:As our useless muppets traverse the country making promises they will never keep and issuing cheques that will bounce, have they even considered what will happen to them if the kids come out to vote?
Will the kids vote by tribe? Are they loyal to the tribal ruler? Will 500 bob handouts sway them? Can they think beyond the day?
The UK has just seen team 18-24 come out and fix them...will it happen here? That generation is already infected and the ones who are not don't care much about politics to vote. So maybe the next generation, 2027. I realised after talking to some sane Nairobi youth in my neighbourhood that they see politics as a problem that cannot solve anything. Maybe they are right. They can't even name 2 MPs and the only governors they know are Kidero, Joho and Kabogo, all for the wrong reasons. But they can give you a line-up of the musicians coming to perform in Kenya this year.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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I think we are all underestimating this phenomenon locally. Vast wealth inequality will spur these kids to fix things. Watch this space. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:I think we are all underestimating this phenomenon locally. Vast wealth inequality will spur these kids to fix things.
Watch this space. Assuming it happens, what real choices do they have at the ballot? Only the forest has changed, the monkeys are the same.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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2012 wrote:KulaRaha wrote:I think we are all underestimating this phenomenon locally. Vast wealth inequality will spur these kids to fix things.
Watch this space. Assuming it happens, what real choices do they have at the ballot? Only the forest has changed, the monkeys are the same. They can vote Dida.....  Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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See this, its happening everywhere, if Kenyan youth don't step up they will be left far far behind with rulers such as UK and RAO http://www.wakeuptopolitics.com/ Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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2012 wrote:KulaRaha wrote:As our useless muppets traverse the country making promises they will never keep and issuing cheques that will bounce, have they even considered what will happen to them if the kids come out to vote?
Will the kids vote by tribe? Are they loyal to the tribal ruler? Will 500 bob handouts sway them? Can they think beyond the day?
The UK has just seen team 18-24 come out and fix them...will it happen here? That generation is already infected and the ones who are not don't care much about politics to vote. So maybe the next generation, 2027. I realised after talking to some sane Nairobi youth in my neighbourhood that they see politics as a problem that cannot solve anything. Maybe they are right. They can't even name 2 MPs and the only governors they know are Kidero, Joho and Kabogo, all for the wrong reasons. But they can give you a line-up of the musicians coming to perform in Kenya this year. I agree with you 100%. In the villages, they are as tribal as the rest of us. In the cities(middle class), they don't care.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:See this, its happening everywhere, if Kenyan youth don't step up they will be left far far behind with rulers such as UK and RAO http://www.wakeuptopolitics.com / Maybe we should introduce a new subject in schools called 'politics'. After all it's one of the highest paying career and only requires papers, a hot mouth and no expertise or previous experience.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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I have found to my dismay that in Kenya, young people are in many cases more tribal then those between 30 and 50. I suspect it has something to do with coming of age at a time when tribal tensions are at their highest..
This is also the generation that has been brainwashed into thinking that you must vote for your tribe at all costs even if the leaders is a thief, a murderer or just plain incompetent.
Those who came of age during the first Nyayo era had no such considerations. So though they are also tribal, I tend to think they are less tribal.
The previous generation have actually experienced something close to national cohesion so they can envision such a society while the younger generation only knows tribal tension.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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KulaRaha wrote:As our useless muppets traverse the country making promises they will never keep and issuing cheques that will bounce, have they even considered what will happen to them if the kids come out to vote?
Will the kids vote by tribe? Are they loyal to the tribal ruler? Will 500 bob handouts sway them? Can they think beyond the day?
The UK has just seen team 18-24 come out and fix them...will it happen here? Good points @Kulahara. No one can win an election in Kenya today without the youth demographic. This fact is known very well by our politicians, witness the large number of Boda Boda sheds doting the landscape. But the question is whether these youth will vote their own interest, or in large enough numbers to make a difference. So far they have not - but then neither have women. If they did it would cause a veritable revolution. I hope you are right that things are about to change. But I fear you are being overly optimistic. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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I have traveled in the villages recently, read FB groups made up of "youth", perused through trends on Twitter where the youth dominate, listened to them in the estates in Nairobi and I am disappointed to say they are as tribal as their great grand fathers.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Alba wrote:I have found to my dismay that in Kenya, young people are in many cases more tribal then those between 30 and 50. I suspect it has something to do with coming of age at a time when tribal tensions are at their highest..
This is also the generation that has been brainwashed into thinking that you must vote for your tribe at all costs even if the leaders is a thief, a murderer or just plain incompetent.
Those who came of age during the first Nyayo era had no such considerations. So though they are also tribal, I tend to think they are less tribal.
The previous generation have actually experienced something close to national cohesion so they can envision such a society while the younger generation only knows tribal tension. @alba good points. During that Nyayo era I was taught by teachers from all over including Uganda and India. Today even national schools are dominated by teachers from the neighbourhood. Then the false narrative about marginalization and the mainstreaming of tribalism in the constitution "face of Kenya" fallacy makes everything be looked from the prism of tribe. The detriment if this is evident in our offices everyday......whereby the purported marginalized persons get and expect favours because of their decent.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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at 51% of the total registered votes, the youths can decide who becomes president. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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