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#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 12:35:19 PM
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Whats happening in the ME, seems Qatar has been alienated by the other countries in the region.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 1:29:23 PM
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Trump had just visited the region...

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 1:58:28 PM
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Nothing to do with Trump, seems Qatar was already skating on thin ice...
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:16:41 PM
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What exactly did they do?d'oh! d'oh!
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:25:55 PM
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Its a regime change plot...nothing more, nothing less...
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:47:40 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Nothing to do with Trump, seems Qatar was already skating on thin ice...


But news sources are hinting that the other Arab states were emboldened by Trumps speech during his recent visit.

The US has the biggest military base in the ME in Qatar so how are they playing this exactly.

From body language, it seems Russia and Turkey are prepping to support the Qatari regime
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:56:15 PM
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'Adverse reporting' by Qatari Journalists also cited as contributing to the crisis!
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:58:15 PM
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Aljazeera is owned by Qatar goverment.

If you watch it, you will notice that it focuses on happenings mostly happening in Islamic countries, It's well funded by the Qatar goverment and a good propaganda machinery, that is biased if you observe keenly.

It's investigative unit is one of the best in the world, programmes like witness, 101 East are top notch.

Now the issue is Qatar has been secretly supporting organizations like Muslim brotherhood in Egypt , MB is a terrorist organization, there are allegations that it support ISIS through Al-nusra front.

That and many other allegations informed the decision



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#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 4:07:43 PM
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faa wrote:
Aljazeera is owned by Qatar goverment.

If you watch it, you will notice that it focuses on happenings mostly happening in Islamic countries, It's well funded by the Qatar goverment and a good propaganda machinery, that is biased if you observe keenly.

It's investigative unit is one of the best in the world, programmes like witness, 101 East are top notch.

Now the issue is Qatar has been secretly supporting organizations like Muslim brotherhood in Egypt , MB is a terrorist organization, there are allegations that it support ISIS through Al-nusra front.

That and many other allegations informed the decision






True that but i think this has been used as a first line excuse. I think the real issue here is the warm relations Qatar has with Iran. The other Gulf states do not want to be lorded over by Iran and i think this crisis is meant to check that.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 4:10:51 PM
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faa wrote:
Aljazeera is owned by Qatar goverment.

If you watch it, you will notice that it focuses on happenings mostly happening in Islamic countries, It's well funded by the Qatar goverment and a good propaganda machinery, that is biased if you observe keenly.

It's investigative unit is one of the best in the world, programmes like witness, 101 East are top notch.

Now the issue is Qatar has been secretly supporting organizations like Muslim brotherhood in Egypt , MB is a terrorist organization, there are allegations that it support ISIS through Al-nusra front.

That and many other allegations informed the decision




The beginning of the end for aljazeera.It will be one of the conditions to end the sieke.
madollar
#11 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 5:01:26 PM
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Will Qatar sacrifice Al Jazeera to mend regional ties?

The diplomatic crisis that broadsided Qatar on Monday could spell trouble for one of its crown jewels: Al Jazeera.
The state-backed media network has become a global brand but is also a polarizing force. It made enemies from Riyadh to Cairo with its criticism of Arab governments and coverage of deposed Egyptian president Mohamed Morsy.
Five Arab states have now broken off diplomatic relations with Qatar, a dramatic move that reveals just how strained the tiny Gulf state's relationship with its neighbors has become. They have accused Qatar of supporting terrorism, accusations the country says are "unjustified" and "baseless."
Big Gulf powers such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates will now be in a position to demand concessions from Qatar in return for restoration of diplomatic and economic ties. Analysts said that one of their demands could be the closure of Al Jazeera.
"Qatar's Emir first gesture of good will likely be the shutting of Al Jazeera TV network entirely, which could happen in months if not weeks," Sultan Al Qassemi, a prominent regional commentator, said in a tweet.
Michael Stephens, a research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) in London, said that Qatar will be forced to make major compromises. He said specific demands are not yet clear, but Al Jazeera could be in danger.
"Nothing would surprise me at the moment," Stephens said. "I can actually see that being a request that they make."
Al Jazeera did not respond to a request for comment.
Established two decades ago in Doha, Al Jazeera helped to expand Qatar's political influence by broadcasting Arabic-language programs that were seen in millions of living rooms around the region.
The network went on to launch English-language programming that was targeted at markets including the U.S. While still funded by Qatar, Al Jazeera English and the defunct Al Jazeera America were viewed as having more editorial independence.
Related: Mideast airlines halt Qatar flights as Gulf crisis escalates
Its brand of journalism quickly made enemies, however. Analysts say that it gave voice to criticisms of autocratic governments in a region where such talk was largely out of bounds.
"Al Jazeera is sensationalist, Islamic, and pan-Arabic, but it mirrors Doha's policy concerns in more ways than it might care to acknowledge," wrote Simon Henderson, director of The Washington Institute's Gulf and Energy Policy Program, just four years after the network's launch. "Many Arab governments would prefer Al Jazeera to simply disappear."
The network has long insisted that its coverage is fair and unbiased, and it has cultivated a reputation for brave reporting on human rights and vulnerable populations.
But in a region where media outlets are often used as political tools, it has been unable to avoid being caught in geopolitical disputes. Saudi Arabia, for example, recalled its ambassador from Doha in 2002 after Al Jazeera broadcast comments that were critical of its ruling family. An ambassador would not return until 2007.
Related: Qataris stock up on food as diplomatic crisis threatens imports
Al Jazeera first garnered attention in the U.S. after it aired videos of Osama bin Laden justifying the 9-11 attacks. During the Iraq War, top Bush administration officials were highly critical of its coverage. Former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld said its accounts of civilian casualties during the battle for Falluja were "outrageous nonsense."
In 2003, an Al Jazeera staff member was killed and three other employees were wounded by an American airstrike during the U.S. push into Baghdad. American officials denied the bureau had been targeted.
Popular uprisings during the Arab Spring further complicated the network's editorial position. Critics accused it of cheerleading for revolutions in Libya and Egypt, but panned its coverage of dissent in neighboring Bahrain as timid.
The most recent conflagration was over Egypt. Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were major backers of a decision by the country's military to remove Morsy, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, from power. The Brotherhood is an Islamist movement considered a terrorist organization by Saudi Arabia and the UAE.
Qatar had been a major supporter of Morsy, and Al Jazeera questioned the legitimacy of his successor, President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi. The network's backing of the movement quickly drew the attention of the new Egyptian government, which in 2014 arrested three journalists working for the outlet's English-language division.
The dispute culminated in the closure of Al Jazeera Live Egypt, an affiliate network, in 2014. The journalists were later released.
Related: Qatar 'fake news' spat divides Arab media

Al Jazeera has faced headwinds on the economic front, as well. Despite winning plaudits for its journalism, the network abandoned its U.S. network -- Al Jazeera America -- in 2016 after it failed to attract an audience.
There have also been steep job cuts at head office.
It's difficult to say whether the pioneering network's days are numbered. But it has already been blocked in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, signaling their displeasure with it has not eased.
"If Al Jazeera isn't shut down, then there will be serious clauses about what it can and can't cover," said RUSI's Stephens.
Saudi Arabia said Monday it had closed Al Jazeera's office in the kingdom.

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:09:21 PM
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d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
This should be the HOLY MONTH OF RAMADAN not the HORROR MONTHPray Pray Pray Pray Pray
Too much killings, negativeness, suffering
I think we should suspend this Holy Month until peace and order are restored
It should never be a Month of suffering!!!
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 07, 2017 12:23:57 PM
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NOTE: the highlighted line below:

Kissinger predictions come true, Arab countries already enslaved, Israel to occupy half of the Arab Word

Henry Kissinger said in end 2011: "If You Can’t Hear the Drums of War You Must Be Deaf"

Henry Kissinger, the most famous living practitioner of international statecraft

Speaking from his luxurious Manhattan apartment, the elder statesman, who will be 89 in May, is all too forward with his analysis of the current situation in the world forum of Geo-politics and economics.

“The United States is baiting China and Russia, and the final nail in the coffin will be Iran, which is, of course, the main target of Israel. We have allowed China to increase their military strength and Russia to recover from Sovietization, to give them a false sense of bravado, this will create an all together faster demise for them. We’re like the sharp shooter daring the noob to pick up the gun, and when they try, it’s bang bang. The coming war will be so severe that only one superpower can win, and that’s us folks. This is why the EU is in such a hurry to form a complete superstate because they know what is coming, and to survive, Europe will have to be one whole cohesive state. Their urgency tells me that they know full well that the big showdown is upon us. O how I have dreamed of this delightful moment.”

“Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people.”

Mr Kissinger then added: “If you are an ordinary person, then you can prepare yourself for war by moving to the countryside and building a farm, but you must take guns with you, as the hordes of starving will be roaming. Also, even though the elite will have their safe havens and specialist shelters, they must be just as careful during the war as the ordinary civilians, because their shelters can still be compromised.”

After pausing for a few minutes to collect his thoughts, Mr Kissinger, carried on: “We told the military that we would have to take over seven Middle Eastern countries for their resources and they have nearly completed their job. We all know what I think of the military, but I have to say they have obeyed orders superfluously this time. It is just that last stepping stone, i.e. Iran which will really tip the balance. How long can China and Russia stand by and watch America clean up? The great Russian bear and Chinese sickle will be roused from their slumber and this is when Israel will have to fight with all its might and weapons to kill as many Arabs as it can. Hopefully if all goes well, half the Middle East will be Israeli. Our young have been trained well for the last decade or so on combat console games, it was interesting to see the new Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 game, which mirrors exactly what is to come in the near future with its predictive programming. Our young, in the US and West, are prepared because they have been programmed to be good soldiers, cannon fodder, and when they will be ordered to go out into the streets and fight those crazy Chins and Russkies, they will obey their orders. Out of the ashes we shall build a new society, a new world order; there will only be one superpower left, and that one will be the global government that wins. Don’t forget, the United States, has the best weapons, we have stuff that no other nation has, and we will introduce those weapons to the world when the time is right.”

End of interview. Our reporter is ushered out of the room by Kissinger’s minder.

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 07, 2017 1:30:10 PM
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#15 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 12:06:41 PM
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Is thinking differently means going around the world killing the children of those who cannot think differently? Is thinking differently supplying weapons to be used to kill innocent children?


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#16 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 12:30:54 PM
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The usual diversionary, far fetched and long winded shots from the hip
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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#17 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 3:11:53 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:

Is thinking differently means going around the world killing the children of those who cannot think differently? Is thinking differently supplying weapons to be used to kill innocent children?





That is a sad video for sure, same thing happening in SyriaSad Sad Sad Sad
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#18 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 10:40:30 PM
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The ban has meant that any ship sailing to and from Qatar will be prevented from calling at major ports in the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which include Jebel Ali, as well as Bahrain#

source: Reuters.



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#19 Posted : Friday, June 09, 2017 9:33:55 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:

Is thinking differently means going around the world killing the children of those who cannot think differently? Is thinking differently supplying weapons to be used to kill innocent children?





The video is no longer availalbe but the address goes https://www.facebook.com...videos/677300679106798/


If it is about Stopping The War On Yemen, find it in your heart to accept and embrace atrocities in there on behalf of the perpetrators of the geonocide in Yemen, and maybe coming-soon in Qatar, your beloved Arabians.
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#20 Posted : Friday, June 09, 2017 9:38:01 AM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:

Is thinking differently means going around the world killing the children of those who cannot think differently? Is thinking differently supplying weapons to be used to kill innocent children?





The video is no longer availalbe but the address goes https://www.facebook.com...videos/677300679106798/


If it is about Stopping The War On Yemen, find it in your heart to accept and embrace atrocities in there on behalf of the perpetrators of the geonocide in Yemen, and maybe coming-soon in Qatar, your beloved Arabians.


Ah! Video still there........
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