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hardwood		#711 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 11:40:47 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay		Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote: we should be riding on electric trains like ethiopia sio trains za dithero!!!!! lol. any congrats to sgr so far Then stima zipotee when you are at man eaters Tsavo....and you spend the night in the bush....
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Angelica _ann		#712 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 11:40:56 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,936		gmg wrote: Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote: we should be riding on electric trains like ethiopia sio trains za dithero!!!!! lol. any congrats to sgr so far Remember we are only generating 2300MW of power so ikienda kwa reli tutawachiwa nini? Accept what Jubilee has done for 'us' and move on In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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wazuaguest		#713 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 1:03:30 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 2/9/2012 Posts: 576		hardwood wrote: Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote: we should be riding on electric trains like ethiopia sio trains za dithero!!!!! lol. any congrats to sgr so far Then stima zipotee when you are at man eaters Tsavo....and you spend the night in the bush.... We should reform Kenya Power first otherwise you will start hearing "Sweetie bado tumekwama Voi stima zilipotea" Africa belongs to Africans.
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Swenani		#714 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 1:16:17 PM
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum		Njung'e wrote: [quote=murchr]Kiulizo. On the inaugural trip the train is said to have had 216TEU's at 50 000 does that mean the train made 10,800,000? In other news, Phase 2a is right on course GOOD!...Let's not just see opportunities of the first phase......To the next part now and i am looking ahead. The aim of the 3rd phase is to take cargo and passengers to the Lake town of Kisumu. From here, one has access to Musoma, Bukoba, Mwanza, Jinja, Entebbe and Kampala. Bukoba and Jinja would be of much interest since this gives direct access and very close proximity to UG, Rwanda, Burundi and Eastern DRC. I think this is where money lies.Shouldn't i start dreaming of something similar to the pictures below? I want to seize the opportunity so let's cut idle wazua talk. You're too old to seize any opportunity !!! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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kayhara		#715 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 1:55:13 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059		murchr wrote: alma1 wrote: murchr wrote: I have never heard you complain that planes should be landing in South C to make any economic sense, after all, you take cabs and pay that 1000/- from Embakasi to south C. Reli mwisho ni Syokimau, panda Nairobi commuter rail hapo ushukie railways tao. Wacha nikusaidie kidogo Murchr because leo umenoa. I'm a business persona and want to use the First Class Service. Cost of the Plane 1. Taxi to Wilson or JKIA - ksh. 1000 2. Airline Ticket - ksh. 7000 3. Taxi from Mombasa Airport to Hotel - ksh. 1000 Total Cost 9k Time to travel 1. Taxi to Jkia - 1 hour 2. in flight - 1 hour 3. Airport to Hotel - 1 hour Total time in transit 3 hours maximum Cost of First Class Train 1. Taxi to Machakos - ksh. 2000 2. First Class Ticket - ksh. 3000 3. Miritini to Mombasa - ksh. 2000 Total Cost 7k Time to Travel 1. Taxi to Machakos - 1.5 hours 2. Train time - 5 hours 3. Miritini to Mombasa - 2 hours Total time 8.5 hours My friend, why not take the bus? I hear Spanish has aerodynamic buses or something. Now Imagine the Commoner Cost to Mabatha Raha 1. From wherever to Tea Room - 100 Bob - Time to travel 1 hour 2. From Tea Room to Mabatha - 800 bob Chania - Time to Travel 8 hours 3. From Chania to Hotel - 40 bob - Time to Travel 30 minutes Total Cost 840 bob Total Time 8 Hours 10 hours kama kuna jam Now on the Reli 1. From wherever to town - 100 bob - Time to travel 1 hour 2. From town to Mayakos - 100 bob - Time to travel 1.5 hours 3. From Mayakos to the Station - 50 bob - Time to travel 30 minutes 4. Train to mabatha - 700 bob - Time to travel 5 hours 5. From Miritini to Mabatha - My friend there's no bus, chukua teksi 2000 bob - Time to travel 1.5 hours Total Cost 2950. Total Time 9.5 hours I know math is a difficult thing but how long do you think it will take the average Kenyan to say he has seen enough relis in his life. There must be a way that connects commuters to a transport hub. If someone has not thought about that, then there's going to be a problem here. Sawa? Tumeelewana? Na nimekwambia, take that bus no problem. I took a bus in November and swore to NEVER AGAIN. Left Nrb 10:30 got to Msa past 11:00am Traffic at mariakani miritini is TERRIBLE. Had a 10pm ticket back got to Nrb past 10am tired, my fellow passengers had swollen feet so even after getting to town I had to get a cab....so wacha mimi nipande reli. Get to the bus, haujaambiwa usipande basi ama ndege..Madaraka express ni another option. Hustler cost from Bamburi to Kiambu on SGR Bamburi to town 50/- matatu Town to Miritini morning 40/- Boda to station entrance 50/- Train 700 Boda from Nairobi terminal to town 50/- By the lunatic Town to kiambu 50/- Total cost 890/- Time 4.5hrs train 2 hrs connecting 9am to 3pm Plus soon we shall have buses going there just like to the airport you can take city hopper To Each His Own
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Obi 1 Kanobi		#716 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 2:13:31 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017		essyk wrote: Mkeiy ,if you read my post well you will realise that we are speaking the same thing. 2x20 LIGHT(co-load)=1x40= I TRUCK=80k 1x20 HEAVY(single load)= 1 TRUCK = 80k 1x 40 (regardless of weight)= 1TRUCK= 80k Extra weight attracts a fine. As a transporter you can decide to charge as little as 50k for 1x20 on the RETURN LEG to Mombasa/ NBO instead of going back empty after drop off. Ama namna gani my fren. No loss on you. There is no return leg to Mombasa, during the return leg you are required to return the empty container back to the shippers, so 50K is generally both ways. The only bit the train fare has not factored is the last mile fee which will be a minimum of 10K and the double handling charges i.e load on train, unload at Nairobi, Load on Truck, Unload from truck to train again. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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wazuaguest		#717 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 2:40:45 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 2/9/2012 Posts: 576		Obi 1 Kanobi wrote: essyk wrote: Mkeiy ,if you read my post well you will realise that we are speaking the same thing. 2x20 LIGHT(co-load)=1x40= I TRUCK=80k 1x20 HEAVY(single load)= 1 TRUCK = 80k 1x 40 (regardless of weight)= 1TRUCK= 80k Extra weight attracts a fine. As a transporter you can decide to charge as little as 50k for 1x20 on the RETURN LEG to Mombasa/ NBO instead of going back empty after drop off. Ama namna gani my fren. No loss on you. There is no return leg to Mombasa, during the return leg you are required to return the empty container back to the shippers, so 50K is generally both ways. The only bit the train fare has not factored is the last mile fee which will be a minimum of 10K and the double handling charges i.e load on train, unload at Nairobi, Load on Truck, Unload from truck to train again. Can those containers be loaded with potatoes,kales and Spinach from Kinangop? Africa belongs to Africans.
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essyk		#718 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 5:17:57 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518		argh. Client A contracts mkeiy to deliver a full container load to Industrial area. Contract comes with a 2 free offloading days. Day 3 the client hasn't offloaded from truck so to avoid incurring detention he agrees to remain with container and release mkeiy. Rem the transport rate of 80k is inclusive of return of empty container back to mombasa. Mkeiy grabs an opportunity and decides to carry client B's 20ft goods at 45k ..No loss whatsover as his return to Mba fee has already been catered for by client A. Such transporters make life bearable for us but are in high demand so getting them is not easy. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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essyk		#719 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 5:24:23 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518		hardwood wrote: Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote: we should be riding on electric trains like ethiopia sio trains za dithero!!!!! lol. any congrats to sgr so far Then stima zipotee when you are at man eaters Tsavo....and you spend the night in the bush.... Back up! back up. But c'mmon there's a huge capacity diff.between the 2 rail systems. Let's not be naive.. We are selling SGR as a milestone to attract investors to use MBA port instead of DAR.Don't rubbish that because they too appreciate the progress made actually the whole world does except few Kenyans. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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murchr		#720 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 5:29:20 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		Njung'e wrote: murchr wrote: Kiulizo. On the inaugural trip the train is said to have had 216TEU's at 50 000 does that mean the train made 10,800,000? In other news, Phase 2a is right on course GOOD!...Let's not just see opportunities of the first phase......To the next part now and i am looking ahead. The aim of the 3rd phase is to take cargo and passengers to the Lake town of Kisumu. From here, one has access to Musoma, Bukoba, Mwanza, Jinja, Entebbe and Kampala. Bukoba and Jinja would be of much interest since this gives direct access and very close proximity to UG, Rwanda, Burundi and Eastern DRC. I think this is where money lies.Shouldn't i start dreaming of something similar to the pictures below? I want to seize the opportunity so let's cut idle wazua talk. Dream on guka, this world revolves because of dreamers like you. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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