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Rocky
#21 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:07:51 AM
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Cyprian has been serializing the drama of HF.Though his approach is abit crude,it seems more and more there is some truth to it
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obiero
#22 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:05:21 PM
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Rocky wrote:
Cyprian has been serializing the drama of HF.Though his approach is abit crude,it seems more and more there is some truth to it

His approach is very crude.. Depressed Safaricom shares until he was curtailed by a court order.. In stocks, perception can easily be deemed as reality

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Rocky
#23 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:18:21 PM
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Cyprian blew the whistle on NBK and Chase weeks before they unraveled.He may use unprofessional language but the underlying content should not be ignored.
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obiero
#24 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:26:02 PM
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Rocky wrote:
Cyprian blew the whistle on NBK and Chase weeks before they unraveled.He may use unprofessional language but the underlying content should not be ignored.

Any bank's main asset is trust. He apparently causes bank runs and the next one could possibly be your bank, so I would not celebrate him soo much

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Rocky
#25 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:34:56 PM
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Bad corporate governance is what eventually causes bank runs not social media
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obiero
#26 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 3:02:45 PM
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Rocky wrote:
Bad corporate governance is what eventually causes bank runs not social media

You are partially right

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Flo-ology
#27 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 4:39:17 PM
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obiero wrote:
heri wrote:
moneydust wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Obiero loves such firms;amekaa kidete na Housing Finance shares

Hehe.. HF is a big disappointment


I have never believed in this firm,chiefly because Kenyans are not mortgage takers simply on the basis of affordability.


on the contrary, for me i thought with all their economies of scale advantage, experience they would be making good money from selling houses either cash or through mortgage atleast until recently when i think they has been a serious slow down in the property market.



The stock was proper but it's management got greedy


It is good to follow your instincts but some times it prudent to analyze other people advice-there is a time I told you to dispose this stock, then it was around 12
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obiero
#28 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 5:50:39 PM
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Flo-ology wrote:
obiero wrote:
heri wrote:
moneydust wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Obiero loves such firms;amekaa kidete na Housing Finance shares

Hehe.. HF is a big disappointment


I have never believed in this firm,chiefly because Kenyans are not mortgage takers simply on the basis of affordability.


on the contrary, for me i thought with all their economies of scale advantage, experience they would be making good money from selling houses either cash or through mortgage atleast until recently when i think they has been a serious slow down in the property market.



The stock was proper but it's management got greedy


It is good to follow your instincts but some times it prudent to analyze other people advice-there is a time I told you to dispose this stock, then it was around 12

Yes I remember, but I honestly have no need for the money at the moment.. I also placed the share on yassers sell list last year

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wukan
#29 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 11:15:57 AM
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Yaani no mercy for the suffering shareholderPray Pray you pay to get screwedLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly lipa kama tender

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HF Group posted the biggest growth in payroll costs for senior managers, hitting Sh282 million last year from Sh185 million.
Frank Ireri, the group CEO, attributed this to salary increases, bonuses and an expanded base of senior executives, with the creation of a new mortgage finance company and other divisions after the firm transformed into a non-operating holding company.
“The increase is due to salary increase and bonus payment in year 2016 for group and subsidiaries senior management team,” Mr Ireri said in an interview.
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maka
#30 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 11:31:57 AM
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wukan wrote:
Yaani no mercy for the suffering shareholderPray Pray you pay to get screwedLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly lipa kama tender

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HF Group posted the biggest growth in payroll costs for senior managers, hitting Sh282 million last year from Sh185 million.
Frank Ireri, the group CEO, attributed this to salary increases, bonuses and an expanded base of senior executives, with the creation of a new mortgage finance company and other divisions after the firm transformed into a non-operating holding company.
“The increase is due to salary increase and bonus payment in year 2016 for group and subsidiaries senior management team,” Mr Ireri said in an interview.




I thought shareholders can veto such things during AGMs...and it's high term remuneration is pegged on stock performance.
possunt quia posse videntur
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