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SGR Progress thus far
mkeiy
#651 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:12:41 AM
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essyk wrote:
Mkeiy ,if you read my post well you will realise that we are speaking the same thing.

2x20 LIGHT(co-load)=1x40= I TRUCK=80k
1x20 HEAVY(single load)= 1 TRUCK = 80k

Extra weight attracts a fine.

Au namna gani my fren.




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#652 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:15:33 AM
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Location: Nairobi
Bus firms fault govt for not consulting them on SGR fares

"Mombasa Raha and Buscar director Abubakar Said says they were surprised when Mr Kenyatta announced the low fares, given that bus companies typically charge passengers between Sh900 and Sh2000 fare from Nairobi to Mombasa.
“The president should have considered us because we have invested heavily in the transport sector. It will really affect us, we will definitely run out of business. The president's price (Sh700) is very cheap,” he said."


Have these guys been living in Mars or what? The whole point of putting up new technology is to increase efficiency and lower costs? This is called disruption, it creates opportunities while getting rid of others. It's like trying to plead a case for the typewriter or the Telkom landline.

May be they can now use their buses to ferry SGR commuters to the station and home.

BBI will solve it
:)
newfarer
#653 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:30:32 AM
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why would anyone choose to go to Mombasa at 1200 for 8 hrs instead of 700 for 5hrs m-express?
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masukuma
#654 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:30:34 AM
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I don't get some people... watu wanalalamika na SGR iko hapa already Eish! Bickering about the price and usefulness of SGR will not help anyone! Iko hapa already! Ni kama Thika road... iko hapa...haiendi mahali!! Start getting some utility out of it! Si some people in 2007 were complaining eti in 40 something years of independence hatujawahi ongeza hata inch moja ya reli? Sasa iko hapa mnaanza kulalamika bei? Reli sio plot ruai!!
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mkeiy
#655 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:02:35 PM
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masukuma wrote:
I don't get some people... watu wanalalamika na SGR iko hapa already Eish! Bickering about the price and usefulness of SGR will not help anyone! Iko hapa already! Ni kama Thika road... iko hapa...haiendi mahali!! Start getting some utility out of it! Si some people in 2007 were complaining eti in 40 something years of independence hatujawahi ongeza hata inch moja ya reli? Sasa iko hapa mnaanza kulalamika bei? Reli sio plot ruai!!


@Masukuma, chills bana. Ni Madaraka Day.

Have people complained, or, are they highlighting some issue,PRICING? What's wrong with that?

If the king is naked, he ought to be told so.


Here is why. SGR-cargo-pricing

according to Business daily, a 20ft container @50k to ICD, then another 10k - 20k approx trucking to the door. Total=60k70k.Compare that to using road from Msa to your door(not beyond Nai) at 50k.

For a 40ft container weighing 29tons, going by Business daily, 7 Shs per ton per km. This container will cost me;
7shs*29ton*450km=91,350Shs to ICD.
add another 15k-20k to my door to make it 106k - 121k.

On the road, I get the same at 90k,to my door.
As I write this, I have one on the road from Msa, what would persuade me to use SGR?
Ama mambo ya economic sense tutupilie mbali?
Lolest!
#656 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:20:10 PM
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KR now says there'll be 2 trains leaving at around 9am. The express one and ya mlengo

No other trips will be there for the time being. No night train.

You can only buy tickets at the station. No pre-booking
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masukuma
#657 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:20:57 PM
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mkeiy wrote:
masukuma wrote:
I don't get some people... watu wanalalamika na SGR iko hapa already Eish! Bickering about the price and usefulness of SGR will not help anyone! Iko hapa already! Ni kama Thika road... iko hapa...haiendi mahali!! Start getting some utility out of it! Si some people in 2007 were complaining eti in 40 something years of independence hatujawahi ongeza hata inch moja ya reli? Sasa iko hapa mnaanza kulalamika bei? Reli sio plot ruai!!


@Masukuma, chills bana. Ni Madaraka Day.

Have people complained, or, are they highlighting some issue,PRICING? What's wrong with that?

If the king is naked, he ought to be told so.


Here is why. SGR-cargo-pricing

according to Business daily, a 20ft container @50k to ICD, then another 10k - 20k approx trucking to the door. Total=60k70k.Compare that to using road from Msa to your door(not beyond Nai) at 50k.

For a 40ft container weighing 29tons, going by Business daily, 7 Shs per ton per km. This container will cost me;
7shs*29ton*450km=91,350Shs to ICD.
add another 15k-20k to my door to make it 106k - 121k.

On the road, I get the same at 90k,to my door.
As I write this, I have one on the road from Msa, what would persuade me to use SGR?
Ama mambo ya economic sense tutupilie mbali?

I think the issue of 'pricing' should be debated on the angle of 'use' as opposed to 'the cost of building it'. The last one does not matter! The cost of use is a more 'useful' angle of debate but it's all up to customers! Si wache tuone kama watu hawatatumia reli kubeba mizigo! ukitaka kungoja mzigo itoke Mombasa by road - ni sawa! kuna wale watabeba na reli depending na ni nini hiyo inabebwa! wacha tuone!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
thuks
#658 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:31:54 PM
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Joined: 10/8/2008
Posts: 1,575
masukuma wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
masukuma wrote:
I don't get some people... watu wanalalamika na SGR iko hapa already Eish! Bickering about the price and usefulness of SGR will not help anyone! Iko hapa already! Ni kama Thika road... iko hapa...haiendi mahali!! Start getting some utility out of it! Si some people in 2007 were complaining eti in 40 something years of independence hatujawahi ongeza hata inch moja ya reli? Sasa iko hapa mnaanza kulalamika bei? Reli sio plot ruai!!


@Masukuma, chills bana. Ni Madaraka Day.

Have people complained, or, are they highlighting some issue,PRICING? What's wrong with that?

If the king is naked, he ought to be told so.


Here is why. SGR-cargo-pricing

according to Business daily, a 20ft container @50k to ICD, then another 10k - 20k approx trucking to the door. Total=60k70k.Compare that to using road from Msa to your door(not beyond Nai) at 50k.

For a 40ft container weighing 29tons, going by Business daily, 7 Shs per ton per km. This container will cost me;
7shs*29ton*450km=91,350Shs to ICD.
add another 15k-20k to my door to make it 106k - 121k.

On the road, I get the same at 90k,to my door.
As I write this, I have one on the road from Msa, what would persuade me to use SGR?
Ama mambo ya economic sense tutupilie mbali?

I think the issue of 'pricing' should be debated on the angle of 'use' as opposed to 'the cost of building it'. The last one does not matter! The cost of use is a more 'useful' angle of debate but it's all up to customers! Si wache tuone kama watu hawatatumia reli kubeba mizigo! ukitaka kungoja mzigo itoke Mombasa by road - ni sawa! kuna wale watabeba na reli depending na ni nini hiyo inabebwa! wacha tuone!

Truck inachukua masaa ngapi to nbo from msa, jam free?
I care!
newfarer
#659 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:32:47 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
KR now says there'll be 2 trains leaving at around 9am. The express one and ya mlengo

No other trips will be there for the time being. No night train.

You can only buy tickets at the station. No pre-booking

lazy chaps letting a good project fail.if no prebooking how do they plan?hope Uhuru is following up his pet project after the launch
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Lolest!
#660 Posted : Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:58:11 PM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
newfarer wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
KR now says there'll be 2 trains leaving at around 9am. The express one and ya mlengo

No other trips will be there for the time being. No night train.

You can only buy tickets at the station. No pre-booking

lazy chaps letting a good project fail.if no prebooking how do they plan?hope Uhuru is following up his pet project after the launch

You could end up with 1500 guys at the station while capacity is 1200. They need to rethink
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