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alma1 wrote:hamburglar wrote:hamburglar wrote: But if you think shooting an 18 year old in her bedroom is a manly thing to do, then we have to reconsider this idea of initiation in africa and circumcision.
Alma1 Wait until that very same 18 year old female thug ambushes you in your bedroom with a gun when you are sleeping. That's the day you and your manly initiated and circumcised ass will crap your pants. You sound a bit confused to me. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised. On the subject of this particular 18 year old, have you ever met her? Have you ever been mugged by her? Do you have any proof whatsover that she was a criminal? Like do you have anything to say about her? What is her name by the way? Nothing, nada! Just a story created on facebook by a lunatic who's pretending to be a policeman. If this lunatic writes on that facebook you seem to love that humbaglar is a nutcase who doesn't know God and doesn't believe in him. I'm going to shoot him tommorow. Do you think we should believe him? Kenyans just have to be serious about life. I wouldn't believe a policeman even if I was paid. You are the same guys here who complain about traffic policemen and their hongo. What makes you think this is not a case of a policeman who's not been given a portion of the loot? Are you that daft, like really? The law is very clear. Policemen are not vigilantes. If they want to shoot people, they should get another job. I'm speaking here like someone with a thread talking about my phones being stolen. I have been mugged. I have seen terror with these people. But my conscience and the reality in this country called Kenya will never allow me to support a policeman killing children in the name of saving my life. If this killer was so hot, why don't they take him to Laikipia to deal with real men who steal cows? Nonsense. Shoot to kill.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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hamburglar wrote:alma1 wrote:hamburglar wrote:hamburglar wrote: But if you think shooting an 18 year old in her bedroom is a manly thing to do, then we have to reconsider this idea of initiation in africa and circumcision.
Alma1 Wait until that very same 18 year old female thug ambushes you in your bedroom with a gun when you are sleeping. That's the day you and your manly initiated and circumcised ass will crap your pants. You sound a bit confused to me. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised. On the subject of this particular 18 year old, have you ever met her? Have you ever been mugged by her? Do you have any proof whatsover that she was a criminal? Like do you have anything to say about her? What is her name by the way? Nothing, nada! Just a story created on facebook by a lunatic who's pretending to be a policeman. If this lunatic writes on that facebook you seem to love that humbaglar is a nutcase who doesn't know God and doesn't believe in him. I'm going to shoot him tommorow. Do you think we should believe him? Kenyans just have to be serious about life. I wouldn't believe a policeman even if I was paid. You are the same guys here who complain about traffic policemen and their hongo. What makes you think this is not a case of a policeman who's not been given a portion of the loot? Are you that daft, like really? The law is very clear. Policemen are not vigilantes. If they want to shoot people, they should get another job. I'm speaking here like someone with a thread talking about my phones being stolen. I have been mugged. I have seen terror with these people. But my conscience and the reality in this country called Kenya will never allow me to support a policeman killing children in the name of saving my life. If this killer was so hot, why don't they take him to Laikipia to deal with real men who steal cows? Nonsense. Shoot to kill. May you also be shot! Dead!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Those talking about 'social intergration' need to be reminded that they aren't talking about 'immigrants' or so called 'aliens' coming to beg for your mercy.
These are natural citizens who're being denied their rights!
Talk about social intergration is prejudicial, and a very undesguised attempt at sugar coating oppression.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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wukan wrote:Iganamagana wrote:tycho wrote:If you claim that there's evidence beyond reasonable doubt that these young people are robbers, why not kill them lawfully?
Why is it that the evidence presented in court is insufficient to take most of them beyond remand?
I think most of us are excited about killing, but if you want to kill do it lawfully. Otherwise we are soon going to be in a jungle where everyone is an assassin. I am not for extra-judicial killing but you sound like a foreigner here. Our judicial system is clearly dysfunctional. What you talking about Kibaki had some 3000 people on death row and he commuted them to life sentences. After that Uhuru had 2655 males and 92 females on death row and he also commuted the sentences to life. Our judiciary dispenses the highest portion of death sentences in the world. You call that dysfunctional Look at the complete picture even in your village or estate. A rapist or robber is arrested today and is free by end of next week repeating what he has always done. He is released by the court for lack of evidence or through bail terms that you can not comprehend. Sometimes using forged title deeds. The case is dragged through the judicial system for years until everyone forgets about it. The prosecutor moves on, witnesses die or are unwilling to go through the nonsense and the magistrate is promoted. What do you call that? Are you surprised that members of the public cheer on extra-judicial action?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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Where we are in this Kenya as a people, it has come down to choosing the LESSER evil.
The lesser evil here being a dead, known criminal, than a defiled minor & dead parents, after release of the said criminal, on bond.
Loss of a single life to save lives is a bargain for me any day.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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tycho wrote:Those talking about 'social intergration' need to be reminded that they aren't talking about 'immigrants' or so called 'aliens' coming to beg for your mercy.
These are natural citizens who're being denied their rights!
Talk about social intergration is prejudicial, and a very undesguised attempt at sugar coating oppression. Socially and economically marginalized natural citizens. Ever heard a stand up comedian talking about kayole ? Kayole is a different planet to some nairobians just as some leafy suburbs are a different planet to other nairobians. Concentrated poverty can be diluted by urban planning that aims at integration of planets. Tycho what do you see as a solution?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Iganamagana wrote:wukan wrote:Iganamagana wrote:tycho wrote:If you claim that there's evidence beyond reasonable doubt that these young people are robbers, why not kill them lawfully?
Why is it that the evidence presented in court is insufficient to take most of them beyond remand?
I think most of us are excited about killing, but if you want to kill do it lawfully. Otherwise we are soon going to be in a jungle where everyone is an assassin. I am not for extra-judicial killing but you sound like a foreigner here. Our judicial system is clearly dysfunctional. What you talking about Kibaki had some 3000 people on death row and he commuted them to life sentences. After that Uhuru had 2655 males and 92 females on death row and he also commuted the sentences to life. Our judiciary dispenses the highest portion of death sentences in the world. You call that dysfunctional Look at the complete picture even in your village or estate. A rapist or robber is arrested today and is free by end of next week repeating what he has always done. He is released by the court for lack of evidence or through bail terms that you can not comprehend. Sometimes using forged title deeds. The case is dragged through the judicial system for years until everyone forgets about it. The prosecutor moves on, witnesses die or are unwilling to go through the nonsense and the magistrate is promoted. What do you call that? Are you surprised that members of the public cheer on extra-judicial action? I do not support extra-judicial killing... If they're sure these are criminals, then get evidence and arrest and pass judgement accordingly, even capital punishment where applicable. Because: AlphDoti wrote: <#18 Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:10:47 PM> Statistics show that most of the offenders have 60% repeat of the same crime. Please google and confirm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Is there a Hessy wa corrupt GoK officials? Now that guy would have to do a lot of work.... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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wukan wrote:Iganamagana wrote:tycho wrote:If you claim that there's evidence beyond reasonable doubt that these young people are robbers, why not kill them lawfully?
Why is it that the evidence presented in court is insufficient to take most of them beyond remand?
I think most of us are excited about killing, but if you want to kill do it lawfully. Otherwise we are soon going to be in a jungle where everyone is an assassin. I am not for extra-judicial killing but you sound like a foreigner here. Our judicial system is clearly dysfunctional. What you talking about Kibaki had some 3000 people on death row and he commuted them to life sentences. After that Uhuru had 2655 males and 92 females on death row and he also commuted the sentences to life. Our judiciary dispenses the highest portion of death sentences in the world. You call that dysfunctional UNFORTUNATELY OUR SYSTEMS DON'T WORKAlphDoti wrote:<#19 Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:13:08 PM> I support death sentence criminals: burglar, rapists, terrorist, adultery, corruption, murderer, etc
When the law is applied, you find the society rate of crime drops drastically.
It creates a sense of security within a society. Where people are not obliged to use large locks and steel doors, heavy security, burglar alarms, all these kinds of things, which are prominent in places like our country Kenya and western countries! People live in fear.
So to me, basically, the law is a deterrent. Something to discourage people.
And I agree, people should be present to observe it. It is not for entertainment in public. But for them to see the law and application. The sight of it helps to enforce in the minds of the people the laws are being applied and we should avoid these kinds of crimes.
And a result of that you find that the rate of this crime is quite low in general in countries where strict law is applied without compromise.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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tycho wrote:Those talking about 'social intergration' need to be reminded that they aren't talking about 'immigrants' or so called 'aliens' coming to beg for your mercy.
These are natural citizens who're being denied their rights!
Talk about social intergration is prejudicial, and a very undesguised attempt at sugar coating oppression. The right to rob? Which rights, brother Tycho, are they being denied? A few examples can suffice.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Who would pay the bloggers if Kabura is shot? Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,589
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tycho wrote:Those talking about 'social intergration' need to be reminded that they aren't talking about 'immigrants' or so called 'aliens' coming to beg for your mercy.
These are natural citizens who're being denied their rights!
Talk about social intergration is prejudicial, and a very undesguised attempt at sugar coating oppression. You know what, if you won't think outside the box give us viable solutions, very well then let's allow that Hessy guy to continue with his work as he knows best. It's the policy of the clowns you put in office and you will surely deliver the next set of clowns in August with the same misguided policies of concentrating poverty in Eastlando. Hamuwezi saidika!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Uhuru, "I will sign death orders for criminals henceforth" at Miritini, I agree, it is the LAW, Moi hanged Ochuka then stopped, Kibaki let those sentenced to death to continue staying and even escaping from prison against the law. Uhuru will follow the law. A New Kenya
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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The cartels will run him out of town even before he signs into "bookface".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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bado watu wanachapa domo? watu wakule pamba!! mtu umeambiwa uache uhalifu unakataa... kula pamba!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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masukuma wrote:bado watu wanachapa domo? watu wakule pamba!! mtu umeambiwa uache uhalifu unakataa... kula pamba!! People are still trying to defend thugs here. Shoot them all and rid our society of this menace. Very soon Kayole will be a safe place courtesy of this hessy guy. We need more and more hessys so that we can walk and drive in Nairobi in peace. Fagia wote. A few of my employees live in Kayole and saika. One girl, a waitress has a friend that was robbed at gunpoint by that ady vibes girl and her gang in Kayole. She was telling us that the girl was actually in remand from like January and was somehow released in April and picked up from where she had left off, terrorizing residents and maybe even killing a few. Did you guys want her to be rearrested again and then be released on bail after two months to come back again and put guns on people's heads for their phones? Wacheni ufala.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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hamburglar wrote:masukuma wrote:bado watu wanachapa domo? watu wakule pamba!! mtu umeambiwa uache uhalifu unakataa... kula pamba!! People are still trying to defend thugs here. Shoot them all and rid our society of this menace. Very soon Kayole will be a safe place courtesy of this hessy guy. We need more and more hessys so that we can walk and drive in Nairobi in peace. Fagia wote. A few of my employees live in Kayole and saika. One girl, a waitress has a friend that was robbed at gunpoint by that ady vibes girl and her gang in Kayole. She was telling us that the girl was actually in remand from like January and was somehow released in April and picked up from where she had left off, terrorizing residents and maybe even killing a few. Did you guys want her to be rearrested again and then be released on bail after two months to come back again and put guns on people's heads for their phones? Wacheni ufala. Yes. Some individuals want to be known more for their opposition to government than their support for the society. Kuongelesha vijana hawataki. Kukanya vijana wanapinga. They just want to oppose. I support all and any efforts to talk to, warn, advice, rehabilitate vijana. As for those vijana who refuse all such efforts ......
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@Mtu biz.
To give solutions, we must first define the problem. And to get a precise and clear defunition, I've had to scour around into the political consciousness of young people who can understand 'Hessy'.
One respondent answered me on what he made of 'Hessy'. 'Ask yourself, can this happen in the US or even SA? ... the police are now the goons, revealing operations and continuing investigations, and even, colluding with thugs'. This respondent went on to detail the difficulties of joining the 'Hessy' groups, and some of the leaked stories about the groups.
In the course of conversation, another remarked; 'tuko unstable, kama elements za periodic table'.
Then 'anarchy' popped up from the group. My work was only to add, 'sindio!'
I was reminded in our conversation, that some of these policemen, and even women, are even former street kids and thugs who instead of finding shelter and love, reform and sincere public service; their old techniques are instead extolled and relied upon. 'Gang and counter gang' style.
Yesterday I heard from similar young men and women from a different location. And even there I found the young people, talking about how this 'Hessy' business is a threat to basic human rights and may in fact, be engineered to certain effects that may not be in the interest of freedom, or happiness or prosperity for the majority.
The problem is difficult to summarize. But I'll try: The government is finding it difficult to deal with contemporary issues, even despite the technology at its disposal. Instead it has taken a path of emulating the Colonial solutions that upon reflection, could only work for the short term, after independence.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:bado watu wanachapa domo? watu wakule pamba!! mtu umeambiwa uache uhalifu unakataa... kula pamba!! Kama nicha watu kula pamba unlawfully, then pia wee utakula. So, si eti watu wanaogopa.
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