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Sober
#131 Posted : Monday, May 29, 2017 9:27:54 AM
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obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
Chaka wrote:
I read somewhere that the occupancy of the UAP tower is 30%(well may be it has improved since the story was written).So how will these other yet to be completed towers fare?

Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change.

We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's Applause Applause Applause


I believe that a signature address will get the desired tenants.. The Pinnacle model incorporates residential, hotel as well as commercial space.. It's likely to get high end occupants similar to the English Point Marina

English point still not fully sold. Someone told me that selling is a struggle


@horton the credit squeeze in the economy brings that challenge..


Should we also be counting the new continental building as an addition to change the skyline of the CBD?
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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maka
#132 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:49:52 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Sober wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
Chaka wrote:
I read somewhere that the occupancy of the UAP tower is 30%(well may be it has improved since the story was written).So how will these other yet to be completed towers fare?

Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change.

We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's Applause Applause Applause


I believe that a signature address will get the desired tenants.. The Pinnacle model incorporates residential, hotel as well as commercial space.. It's likely to get high end occupants similar to the English Point Marina

English point still not fully sold. Someone told me that selling is a struggle


@horton the credit squeeze in the economy brings that challenge..


Should we also be counting the new continental building as an addition to change the skyline of the CBD?


BTW that thing is tall....how many floors?
possunt quia posse videntur
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Sober
#133 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:55:00 AM
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Joined: 11/27/2007
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maka wrote:
Sober wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
Chaka wrote:
I read somewhere that the occupancy of the UAP tower is 30%(well may be it has improved since the story was written).So how will these other yet to be completed towers fare?

Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
With this building, the UAP tower and the upcoming Britam tower which i here has been bumped to 42 floors, Nairobi skyline will forever change.

We are staring at a very serios city skyline, done by kenyan's Applause Applause Applause


I believe that a signature address will get the desired tenants.. The Pinnacle model incorporates residential, hotel as well as commercial space.. It's likely to get high end occupants similar to the English Point Marina

English point still not fully sold. Someone told me that selling is a struggle


@horton the credit squeeze in the economy brings that challenge..


Should we also be counting the new continental building as an addition to change the skyline of the CBD?


BTW that thing is tall....how many floors?


The 6Bn building will tower 27 floors...
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Chaka
#134 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 12:09:16 PM
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Is this supposed to house offices for MPigs?
Sober wrote:

Should we also be counting the new continental building as an addition to change the skyline of the CBD?
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chiaroscuro
#135 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:43:22 AM
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Joined: 2/2/2012
Posts: 1,134
Location: Nairobi
Simple question:
Is there a need (need, not demand) for tall buildings in Nairobi/Kenya? Do we have a shortage of space to warrant going up?
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quicksand
#136 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:18:47 AM
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Location: Nairobi
chiaroscuro wrote:
Simple question:
Is there a need (need, not demand) for tall buildings in Nairobi/Kenya? Do we have a shortage of space to warrant going up?

Land is too costly in Nairobi....a low total space/acre or ha. ratio would not make long term economic sense....so up they creep towards the skies
More baffling, at least to me is why most of the investment is going to real estate...no one wants to build a factory? An ultra-modern farming enterprise? All the money raided from county coffers and kickbacks....flats...hotels...office blocks..
We'll become a nation of towering, shiny glass edifices with no tenants and crumbling from the inside while food security is a problem and we are importing even basic finished goods which we can manufacture here
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wukan
#137 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:36:49 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
Simple question:
Is there a need (need, not demand) for tall buildings in Nairobi/Kenya? Do we have a shortage of space to warrant going up?


In order to create economic density a city needs to grow vertically not horizontally. It's not a shortage of space but rather urban economics where you create more economic benefits by locating businesses and residents near each other. E.g. if our CBD was built up tall with residential units at the top then you create the mythical 24 hour economy but our CBD is usually dead by 9pm
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Chaka
#138 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:34:46 PM
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Some ppl are also building warehouses probably to rent to importers..

quicksand wrote:

More baffling, at least to me is why most of the investment is going to real estate...no one wants to build a factory? An ultra-modern farming enterprise? All the money raided from county coffers and kickbacks....flats...hotels...office blocks..
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mkeiy
#139 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:44:11 PM
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Joined: 1/27/2012
Posts: 851
Location: Nairobi
Chaka wrote:
Some ppl are also building warehouses probably to rent to importers..

quicksand wrote:

More baffling, at least to me is why most of the investment is going to real estate...no one wants to build a factory? An ultra-modern farming enterprise? All the money raided from county coffers and kickbacks....flats...hotels...office blocks..




I hope you guys are just but highlighting an issue.
If not, stop whining.
Pesa za wenyewe mwataka kuzipangia? Kivipi?
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obiero
#140 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:19:48 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,318
Location: nairobi
wukan wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
Simple question:
Is there a need (need, not demand) for tall buildings in Nairobi/Kenya? Do we have a shortage of space to warrant going up?


In order to create economic density a city needs to grow vertically not horizontally. It's not a shortage of space but rather urban economics where you create more economic benefits by locating businesses and residents near each other. E.g. if our CBD was built up tall with residential units at the top then you create the mythical 24 hour economy but our CBD is usually dead by 9pm

Parts of the CBD.. Insecurity related
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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