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kaka2za wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:ecstacy wrote:As at 20/05/2017, feelings aside, does anyone really believe ex-PM Raila will beat incumbent Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta?
Does Raila Odinga himself really believe he will beat Uhuru Kenyatta in 2017? Lol This was the 2013 elections results https://www.cartercenter.../kenya-final-101613.pdf
Over the last 5 years, nothing has changed, each side retains their 2013 strong holds, the fight will be over the swing votes which mostly were won by Cord. I know the chorus here has changed as the conversation is mostly one sided but that doesn't mean the other silent side has thrown in the towel. The Uhuruto govt did not deliver on any of their promises, as long as NASA packages their fight in a coherent way, it should be a coin toss. Pigs can fly One word, TRUMP!!! "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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NASA and effectively Raila Odinga failed Nairobians by 'giving' Evans Kidero a DIRECT nomination to run for the Nairobi Gov ticket on a ODM ticket. These party primaries were useful in sorting in-house issues that negatively impact the wider Kenyan sphere. Is there ANY Nairobian who really wanted Kidero to return as governor?
After 'probably' taking Kidero's ill gotten money in return for a direct ODM nomination for Nairobi, there is no way Raila can effectively run on an anti-corruption agenda.
Add Mombasa, Kilifi etc. No TRUMP in Raila. Dida has a higher chance of being a TRUMP.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:NASA and effectively Raila Odinga failed Nairobians by 'giving' Evans Kidero a DIRECT nomination to run for the Nairobi Gov ticket on a ODM ticket. These party primaries were useful in sorting in-house issues that negatively impact the wider Kenyan sphere. Is there ANY Nairobian who really wanted Kidero to return as governor?
After 'probably' taking Kidero's ill gotten money in return for a direct ODM nomination for Nairobi, there is no way Raila can effectively run on an anti-corruption agenda.
Add Mombasa, Kilifi etc. No TRUMP in Raila. Dida has a higher chance of being a TRUMP. Kidero booed and chased away in Eastleigh. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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 One is on a weekday convened by an opposition leader, the other one is on a public holiday convened by the president.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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FRM2011 wrote:One is on a weekday convened by an opposition leader, the other one is on a public holiday convened by the president. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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When is IEBC releasing the final cleaned up tally of registered voters.We need it to knock some facts to some people. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,260
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/1/2008 Posts: 1,098
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Bigchick wrote:When is IEBC releasing the final cleaned up tally of registered voters.We need it to knock some facts to some people.  I would also like to see where @FRM2011 derives his 10M strong.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Jump-steady wrote:Bigchick wrote:When is IEBC releasing the final cleaned up tally of registered voters.We need it to knock some facts to some people. I would also like to see where @FRM2011 derives his 10M strong. Like I said in another post, Rao won in 26 counties in 2013. If we remove the 4 Luo Nyanza counties and 3 kamba counties, it's clear Kenyans from 19 counties voted for Rao the man without tribal consideration. For Uhuru, outside the Gema and kalenjin vote bloc, only Mandera voted for him. No matter how the cleaned up register looks like, NASA is unbeatable. Should Meru, Baringo, Pokot and Bomet vote the way we think they will........... As our people say, "reke ciume na ene".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:ecstacy wrote:As at 20/05/2017, feelings aside, does anyone really believe ex-PM Raila will beat incumbent Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta?
Does Raila Odinga himself really believe he will beat Uhuru Kenyatta in 2017? Lol This was the 2013 elections results (From page 129) https://www.cartercenter.../kenya-final-101613.pdf
Over the last 5 years, nothing has changed, each side retains their 2013 strong holds, the fight will be over the swing votes which mostly were won by Cord. I know the chorus here has changed as the conversation is mostly one sided but that doesn't mean the other silent side has thrown in the towel. The Uhuruto govt did not deliver on any of their promises, as long as NASA packages their fight in a coherent way, it should be a coin toss. Seems I'm the only one who didn't take the duo seriously on their 'promises' Saving themselves from ICC was the key factor
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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FRM2011 wrote:Jump-steady wrote:Bigchick wrote:When is IEBC releasing the final cleaned up tally of registered voters.We need it to knock some facts to some people. I would also like to see where @FRM2011 derives his 10M strong. Like I said in another post, Rao won in 26 counties in 2013. If we remove the 4 Luo Nyanza counties and 3 kamba counties, it's clear Kenyans from 19 counties voted for Rao the man without tribal consideration. For Uhuru, outside the Gema and kalenjin vote bloc, only Mandera voted for him. No matter how the cleaned up register looks like, NASA is unbeatable. Should Meru, Baringo, Pokot and Bomet vote the way we think they will........... As our people say, "reke ciume na ene". So why did he not win?There was a difference of over 800,000 votes. Your RAO has specialized in Ukabila politics where he goes and picks all small tribes and tells them how marginalised they are and he is their saviour.The small tribes are many but their populations are low.At the end of the day the few large tribes that RAO hates still win coz elections is about numbers. Another thing you need to remember some counties that RAO won were by small margins.53% Vs 45%.In absolute numbers the difference is small. All in all I like your confidence and optimism.Tukutane kwa debe tarehe nane mwezi wa nane. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/1/2008 Posts: 1,098
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FRM2011 wrote:Jump-steady wrote:Bigchick wrote:When is IEBC releasing the final cleaned up tally of registered voters.We need it to knock some facts to some people. I would also like to see where @FRM2011 derives his 10M strong. Like I said in another post, Rao won in 26 counties in 2013. If we remove the 4 Luo Nyanza counties and 3 kamba counties, it's clear Kenyans from 19 counties voted for Rao the man without tribal consideration. For Uhuru, outside the Gema and kalenjin vote bloc, only Mandera voted for him. No matter how the cleaned up register looks like, NASA is unbeatable. Should Meru, Baringo, Pokot and Bomet vote the way we think they will........... As our people say, "reke ciume na ene".  Whether you have the numbers or not, your are still unbeatable. I thought numbers are what do the beating 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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Hiyo rally ya Jubilee Kilifi ilienda aje? Is Kilifi still an odm stronghold?? Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2015 Posts: 682
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:ecstacy wrote:As at 20/05/2017, feelings aside, does anyone really believe ex-PM Raila will beat incumbent Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta?
Does Raila Odinga himself really believe he will beat Uhuru Kenyatta in 2017? Lol This was the 2013 elections results https://www.cartercenter.../kenya-final-101613.pdf
Over the last 5 years, nothing has changed, each side retains their 2013 strong holds, the fight will be over the swing votes which mostly were won by Cord. I know the chorus here has changed as the conversation is mostly one sided but that doesn't mean the other silent side has thrown in the towel. The Uhuruto govt did not deliver on any of their promises, as long as NASA packages their fight in a coherent way, it should be a coin toss. Can an African incumbent be defeated with a close margin? Mwafrika lazma abwagwe na landslide, otherwise ina tight race state machinery will be used to bring in Tharaka Nithi votes
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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Fyatu wrote:Hiyo rally ya Jubilee Kilifi ilienda aje? Is Kilifi still an odm stronghold?? Go to Facebook and search for a group called HOME NI KILIFI. You'll get all the answers you need.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Mike Ock wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:ecstacy wrote:As at 20/05/2017, feelings aside, does anyone really believe ex-PM Raila will beat incumbent Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta?
Does Raila Odinga himself really believe he will beat Uhuru Kenyatta in 2017? Lol This was the 2013 elections results https://www.cartercenter.../kenya-final-101613.pdf
Over the last 5 years, nothing has changed, each side retains their 2013 strong holds, the fight will be over the swing votes which mostly were won by Cord. I know the chorus here has changed as the conversation is mostly one sided but that doesn't mean the other silent side has thrown in the towel. The Uhuruto govt did not deliver on any of their promises, as long as NASA packages their fight in a coherent way, it should be a coin toss. Can an African incumbent be defeated with a close margin? Mwafrika lazma abwagwe na landslide, otherwise ina tight race state machinery will be used to bring in Tharaka Nithi votes Ghana? It has never been this desperate!Two months to the poll and there is no hope at all. We are doomed no matter how we vote in August! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,260
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,260
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Short and clear Not longest like the one RAO had to overstay in Ghana writing which was read at Bomas meet  http://www.president.go.ke/2017...e-g7-summit-in-taormina/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,260
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Wale wameiba simu za Weta na Mudavadi jameni,. Hamueshimu principals? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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