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KQ FY 2016 / 2017 net loss 10.2bn
obiero
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:24:51 AM
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Live at Crown Plaza for the announcement. Michael Joseph gives unqualified commendation to Ngunze.. .@michaelj2 @KenyaAirways "we are starting to see more than just light at the end of the tunnel"
pic.twitter.com/6DtcGldrQ6

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:35:03 AM
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😂😂😂 Another loss of 10bn!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
maka
#3 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:42:07 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
😂😂😂 Another loss of 10bn!


SMH....
possunt quia posse videntur
Spikes
#4 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:42:32 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
😂😂😂 Another loss of 10bn!

You mean another asshole of 10bn?
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Impunity
#5 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:52:41 AM
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maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
😂😂😂 Another loss of 10bn!


SMH....


@VVS can't see its a half full glass, he is only seeing it as half empty.

SMH too.
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littledove
#6 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:42:00 AM
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BREAKING.... Kenya Airways Cuts Losses By a massive KSh. 16 Billion, New CEO Takes Over on 1st June

this now how to package news
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
littledove
#7 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:48:47 AM
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The airlines’s chairman said, “Expect more improvements and announcements especially in operational and financial matters.”
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
maka
#8 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:53:39 AM
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littledove wrote:
The airlines’s chairman said, “Expect more improvements and announcements especially in operational and financial matters.”


Am wondering what else they can costs on..
Hata drinking water kwa ofisi hakuna...Sad
possunt quia posse videntur
Pesa Nane
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:25:49 AM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
actuarywahisa
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:27:06 AM
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Well done Mama Mboga for the umpteenth straight year you have made more profit than KQ.
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
actuarywahisa
#11 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:31:09 AM
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maka wrote:
littledove wrote:
The airlines’s chairman said, “Expect more improvements and announcements especially in operational and financial matters.”


Am wondering what else they can costs on..
Hata drinking water kwa ofisi hakuna...Sad


They have quite a bit to do on the finance costs... and that is where I think it'll get interesting for the current shareholders.
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
Impunity
#12 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:45:16 AM
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maka wrote:
littledove wrote:
The airlines’s chairman said, “Expect more improvements and announcements especially in operational and financial matters.”


Am wondering what else they can costs on..
Hata drinking water kwa ofisi hakuna...Sad


Employees can carry water from home or drink the borehole water from taps in the washrooms.
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muganda
#13 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:58:22 AM
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If this summary is true, KQ really needs to get out of this fuel derivatives hedging business - a whole 4.1bn gone on this line alone, AISSHHH!

Quote:
A meal of billions at KQ:
Turnover 106bn
Gross profit 25.4bn
Operating profit 0.9bn
----- 😦
Currency loss (4.1)bn
Net loss (10.2)bn
Spikes
#14 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:14:23 PM
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muganda wrote:
If this summary is true, KQ really needs to get out of this fuel derivatives hedging business - a whole 4.1bn gone on this line alone, AISSHHH!

Quote:
A meal of billions at KQ:
Turnover 106bn
Gross profit 25.4bn
Operating profit 0.9bn
----- 😦
Currency loss (4.1)bn
Net loss (10.2)bn

Since business is cyclical the time KQ will be out of hedging is when derivatives shall be beneficial. KQ is trapped between indecisiveness of the movement in oil prices and demand to deliver from new management.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
muandiwambeu
#15 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:17:33 PM
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muganda wrote:
If this summary is true, KQ really needs to get out of this fuel derivatives hedging business - a whole 4.1bn gone on this line alone, AISSHHH!

Quote:
A meal of billions at KQ:
Turnover 106bn
Gross profit 25.4bn
Operating profit 0.9bn
----- 😦
Currency loss (4.1)bn
Net loss (10.2)bn

Sincerely. This is nairobery at its best. Eti wakimonda anajipeleka court with news of improvement in behavioral disorder. In quotes"your honour sir, I report improvement in my conduct having murdered a moderate 10.6b over the previous 26bs record holder. So, kindly may you be linient enough and allow me go on a further killing spree since I expect to report an improvement" shindwe, shindwe, achiu, achiu, shindwe pepo peper.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
muandiwambeu
#16 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:24:18 PM
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Spikes wrote:
muganda wrote:
If this summary is true, KQ really needs to get out of this fuel derivatives hedging business - a whole 4.1bn gone on this line alone, AISSHHH!

Quote:
A meal of billions at KQ:
Turnover 106bn
Gross profit 25.4bn
Operating profit 0.9bn
----- 😦
Currency loss (4.1)bn
Net loss (10.2)bn

Since business is cyclical. The time KQ will be out of hedging is when derivatives shall be beneficial. KQ is trapped between indecisiveness of the movement in oil prices and demand to deliver from new management.

Let's see cashflow statement, equity changes statement and financial position statement.
The blackhole is in operating profit. Efficiency is nil(zilch) kibugu here-0.9bn. No ability to surmount these evil spells or good ones as obiero may wish everybody to think.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
Impunity
#17 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:30:14 PM
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muganda wrote:
If this summary is true, KQ really needs to get out of this fuel derivatives hedging business - a whole 4.1bn gone on this line alone, AISSHHH!

Quote:
A meal of billions at KQ:
Turnover 106bn
Gross profit 25.4bn
Operating profit 0.9bn
----- 😦
Currency loss (4.1)bn
Net loss (10.2)bn


I thought fuel hedges ended last September?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#18 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:32:00 PM
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But a gross profit of 25B is orgasmic...this can really turn into a yuge net profit if non core expenses are well controlled.
This company is a gem in the trough.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

obiero
#19 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:50:23 PM
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Impunity wrote:
But a gross profit of 25B is orgasmic...this can really turn into a yuge net profit if non core expenses are well controlled.
This company is a gem in the trough.

Agreed. A lot of positives in those results. A loss cut of over 16B is not good enough, but commendable. Smart money is definitely taking notice http://live.mystocks.co.ke/m/stock=KQ

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the deal
#20 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:56:11 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:

Still crap...a massive balance sheet restructuring is required for this airline to turn a profit... Maybe another rights issue or preference shares to pay down debt... Still a lot of work need to be done... Nothing to celebrate here
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