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Euge
#61 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:09:17 PM
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I think so too. GOK is not usually that efficient. When were decisions taken? Approval? Import? Checks? Inland transport? Milling? Packaging? Distribution?
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#62 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:24:20 PM
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Edited for the sake of peace smile smile smile
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#63 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:34:54 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
2012 wrote:
Swenani wrote:
2012 wrote:
Our local press is very disconnected from the people. They busy tracing the movement of the ship from Mexico and people are clearly not interested. Only the elite might be interested in where the ship came from, the rest of the public want the price of unga to come down.



So you want the press to ignore GoK lies?

What is the purpose of Journalism?


No, I'm not saying they ignore. Journalists are taught to read the mood on the ground then know how best to craft the story to be impactful. Of course this is a mega scandal but their approach was terrible.


I agree with you.

Remember brother Tycho (Big up bratha!) and the discussions he used to have, while useful, those discussions were not of interest or use to Wazuans. And they said so.

Same scenario here. PRess are being like Tycho of yonder years while citizens are the Wazuans. They are discussing things up there involving lotsa money there while citizens need more ordinary discussions involving just maybe hundreds of shillings. Connection is hard.


I remember my ordeal trying to read those posts.
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#64 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:35:24 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:

GOK subsidised Unga manufactured in MARCH 2017 ?????Shame on you
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#65 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:40:24 PM
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Euge wrote:
Swenani wrote:


I think so too. GOK is not usually that efficient. When were decisions taken? Approval? Import? Checks? Inland transport? Milling? Packaging? Distribution?


Per WSR importation of Maize was approved in Feb/March

http://www.ipsos.co.ke/N...African_24,25_c69b4.pdf

https://www.bloomberg.co...e-since-2011-on-drought

http://www.businessdaily...3815534-3851140-vbwt7tz/
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#66 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:08:06 PM
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murchr wrote:
MatataMingi wrote:
hardwood wrote:
The way kenyans are complaining about this maize thing one would think the world is about to end. Fact is that 90% of kenyans live in rural areas and grow and eat their own maize. Of the other 10% urban dwellers, 70% of them live in slums and buy maize which they siaga kwa posho mills in towns. Even a health conscious middle class guy like me normally gets maize from my mother in the village and siaga, i never take hiyo ya supermarket. So this maize crisis is a crisis that never was. Just politics. I have seen they are circulating pictures of
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Hostess flour c
osting 180 bob to show how expensive unga has become and we all know that Hostess is a premium unga brand that has always been sold at over 150 bob even when other unga was 80 bob. It's all politics and lies by the usual suspects. #Propaganda #Mnyambo_Wa_Punda


@ Hardwood.
Are you in Kenya. If so you DON'T know what the actual situation is.
I buy unga for my house staff
I have been to Nakumatt Nyali over the last 3 weeks.
No Ugali flour. They have chapati flour.

I have eventually found some Dola, Taifa & another strange brand in the local village.
I had to go to 4 different shops to get a total of 10 2kg bags at 180/=each.
Not Hostesswhich I have never encountered.

Is this not a shortage


Are you saying that you eat anything else but they eat ugali? Must they eat ugali to survive?



@muchur.

Yes they have been eating my stuff while I could not get ugali. Rice, beans, potatoes.

But somehow, they don't feel they have eaten a meal until they have ugali. Go figure !!! Peculiar Kenyan habits ?

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hardwood
#67 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:22:59 PM
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kripp wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:

GOK subsidised Unga manufactured in MARCH 2017 ?????Shame on you

So did you expect them to sell unga that was in their warehouses awaiting sale and was milled/manufactured in march at the old price of 150 Bob? Since the govt agreed to the subsidy, it meams all unga leaving the factories, whether manufactured in March or today, has to have a sticker or labeling saying its subsidized, since all unga in the market is subsidized.

It's like Total company selling petrol at 95bob in april then the govt (ERC) announces a new price of 92 Bob for May. It means all stocks leaving Total have to be sold at 92 bob even if they were imported last year.
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#68 Posted : Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:49:22 PM
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MatataMingi wrote:
murchr wrote:
MatataMingi wrote:
hardwood wrote:
The way kenyans are complaining about this maize thing one would think the world is about to end. Fact is that 90% of kenyans live in rural areas and grow and eat their own maize. Of the other 10% urban dwellers, 70% of them live in slums and buy maize which they siaga kwa posho mills in towns. Even a health conscious middle class guy like me normally gets maize from my mother in the village and siaga, i never take hiyo ya supermarket. So this maize crisis is a crisis that never was. Just politics. I have seen they are circulating pictures of
Quote:
Hostess flour c
osting 180 bob to show how expensive unga has become and we all know that Hostess is a premium unga brand that has always been sold at over 150 bob even when other unga was 80 bob. It's all politics and lies by the usual suspects. #Propaganda #Mnyambo_Wa_Punda


@ Hardwood.
Are you in Kenya. If so you DON'T know what the actual situation is.
I buy unga for my house staff
I have been to Nakumatt Nyali over the last 3 weeks.
No Ugali flour. They have chapati flour.

I have eventually found some Dola, Taifa & another strange brand in the local village.
I had to go to 4 different shops to get a total of 10 2kg bags at 180/=each.
Not Hostesswhich I have never encountered.

Is this not a shortage


Are you saying that you eat anything else but they eat ugali? Must they eat ugali to survive?



@muchur.

Yes they have been eating my stuff while I could not get ugali. Rice, beans, potatoes.

But somehow, they don't feel they have eaten a meal until they have ugali. Go figure !!! Peculiar Kenyan habits ?


You dont eat ugali but they do.

Ever thought of buying maize and taking it to the posho mill?
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hardwood
#69 Posted : Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:06:51 AM
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Baba now opposes the unga subsidy. Tells his followers, the Naswad, "to buy at the old 150 Bob price and not jubilee's 90bob".

http://www.the-star.co.k...ly-cartels-will_c1563317
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kripp
#70 Posted : Thursday, May 18, 2017 6:20:25 AM
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hardwood wrote:
kripp wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:

GOK subsidised Unga manufactured in MARCH 2017 ?????Shame on you

So did you expect them to sell unga that was in their warehouses awaiting sale and was milled/manufactured in march at the old price of 150 Bob? Since the govt agreed to the subsidy, it meams all unga leaving the factories, whether manufactured in March or today, has to have a sticker or labeling saying its subsidized, since all unga in the market is subsidized.

It's like Total company selling petrol at 95bob in april then the govt (ERC) announces a new price of 92 Bob for May. It means all stocks leaving Total have to be sold at 92 bob even if they were imported last year.


OK, I get it !
So as a miller you mill maize in March and even when shelves in supermarkets are getting empty and the price has shot up to a high of 180/= you hoard the unga waiting to sell it at a yet to be announced GOK subsidised price? Amazing!
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#71 Posted : Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:14:47 AM
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BBI will solve it :)
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#72 Posted : Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:34:34 AM
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The jubikee cartels are at it again.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...asAMP-4l1bje/index.html

82 days to go.
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#73 Posted : Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:08:04 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

The jubikee cartels are at it again.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...asAMP-4l1bje/index.html

82 days to go.


Kenya should just stop producing maize and sugar coz it doesnt make sense now that it is much much cheaper to import the same. Farmers should look for alternative crops or raise animals on the land instead of tax payers subsidizing maize and sugar farmers.

Buying this expensive local maize and sugar is akin to your brother selling his sukuma to you at 50bob, while all your neighbors and whole village are selling the same at 20bob......with your brother insisting that you must buy from him and not from jirani just because he is your brother and are thus obliged to support him and keep his grossly inefficient sukuma "industry" running. Common sense dictates that you should tell the bro to fuack off and abandon his nonsensical sukuma farming and try another crop that is competitive. That way he would use his resources more efficiently and make more money. And you can use the 30bob you were using to subsidize him to buy other things, and overall your clan will be more prosperous.

Let us use the billions spent on supporting these farmers on more meaningful development projects that will help the country including those farmers. Nairobi county doesnt grow any maize but nairobians still eat maize which comes from other counties. Nairobians concentrate on more productive matters. Just like Nairobi, Kenya doesn't have to grow maize for Kenyans to eat maize.
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#74 Posted : Friday, May 19, 2017 10:53:46 AM
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Euge wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
2012 wrote:
Swenani wrote:
2012 wrote:
Our local press is very disconnected from the people. They busy tracing the movement of the ship from Mexico and people are clearly not interested. Only the elite might be interested in where the ship came from, the rest of the public want the price of unga to come down.



So you want the press to ignore GoK lies?

What is the purpose of Journalism?


No, I'm not saying they ignore. Journalists are taught to read the mood on the ground then know how best to craft the story to be impactful. Of course this is a mega scandal but their approach was terrible.


I agree with you.

Remember brother Tycho (Big up bratha!) and the discussions he used to have, while useful, those discussions were not of interest or use to Wazuans. And they said so.

Same scenario here. PRess are being like Tycho of yonder years while citizens are the Wazuans. They are discussing things up there involving lotsa money there while citizens need more ordinary discussions involving just maybe hundreds of shillings. Connection is hard.


I remember my ordeal trying to read those posts.



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#75 Posted : Friday, May 19, 2017 11:35:33 AM
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washiku wrote:

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

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#77 Posted : Saturday, May 20, 2017 3:38:57 PM
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hardwood wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

The jubikee cartels are at it again.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...asAMP-4l1bje/index.html

82 days to go.


Kenya should just stop producing maize and sugar coz it doesnt make sense now that it is much much cheaper to import the same. Farmers should look for alternative crops or raise animals on the land instead of tax payers subsidizing maize and sugar farmers.

Buying this expensive local maize and sugar is akin to your brother selling his sukuma to you at 50bob, while all your neighbors and whole village are selling the same at 20bob......with your brother insisting that you must buy from him and not from jirani just because he is your brother and are thus obliged to support him and keep his grossly inefficient sukuma "industry" running. Common sense dictates that you should tell the bro to fuack off and abandon his nonsensical sukuma farming and try another crop that is competitive. That way he would use his resources more efficiently and make more money. And you can use the 30bob you were using to subsidize him to buy other things, and overall your clan will be more prosperous.

Let us use the billions spent on supporting these farmers on more meaningful development projects that will help the country including those farmers. Nairobi county doesnt grow any maize but nairobians still eat maize which comes from other counties. Nairobians concentrate on more productive matters. Just like Nairobi, Kenya doesn't have to grow maize for Kenyans to eat maize.


Ability to grow your own food, feed your population is a matter of national security. All nations subsidise their farmers.
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#78 Posted : Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:35:23 PM
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Anyone who believes that maize just landed from a ship from South Africa raise your hands up.

Oooohhhh come on. Don't be shy. Raise em up!!!!Do the hustle, do the hustle...Do the twist, do the twist....Shout oyeee!!!!

I know what I'm seeing in the supermarkets...Grown men are buying 5 ungas at ago. Just enter any supermarket.

But somehow just like every election cycle.

1. There's a so called drought announced
2. There's no maize
3. There's no sugar

Then the heaven sent gov't just produces maize from a ship.

I mean, come on!!!

Every election year since Moi.

Sugar and maize, maize and sugar, sugar and maize, drought!

Kweli you think those range rovers you see are financed by air?

It won't matter even if you elect Raira...In 2022, mark this post.

There shall be a "drought", no sugar, no maize.

It's not a political party issue. It was it is in Kenya. Where the ahoi pray to athamaki to get some manna. Yet muhoi is the one who's paying.

Because funny enough, I have not heard a single human being in ODM or Jubilee telling us, who the hell is paying for this Mexican South African maize?

When I grow up, I want to open a maize milling plant...

oooohhhh yeeaah!
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