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deadpoet wrote:Seems I'm late to the party. Just as well, from the past few posts it seems like this thread has degenerated into name calling and other kinds of discord.
For those wazuans going to church today (I believe that most people here are Christians?), here's some food for thought:
1. Two creation stories in Genesis (?)
2. No archeaological evidence that Jews were in Egypt (with all those hieroglyphics, its strange no one bothered to indicate that the Nile once turned red).
3. No geological evidence of the Deluge. Also strange that the first human act after finding land is to offer an animal sacrifice (?)
4. Also, no dinosaurs in the bible- but giants, winged creatures (cherubs) and demigods (nephilim).
"if there's a creator, he must have an inordinate fondness for beetles" They will tell you to ignore facts and believe in fiction. The only evidence they have is faith. work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Tokyo wrote:deadpoet wrote:Seems I'm late to the party. Just as well, from the past few posts it seems like this thread has degenerated into name calling and other kinds of discord.
For those wazuans going to church today (I believe that most people here are Christians?), here's some food for thought:
1. Two creation stories in Genesis (?)
2. No archeaological evidence that Jews were in Egypt (with all those hieroglyphics, its strange no one bothered to indicate that the Nile once turned red).
3. No geological evidence of the Deluge. Also strange that the first human act after finding land is to offer an animal sacrifice (?)
4. Also, no dinosaurs in the bible- but giants, winged creatures (cherubs) and demigods (nephilim).
"if there's a creator, he must have an inordinate fondness for beetles" They will tell you to ignore facts and believe in fiction. The only evidence they have is faith. Myths don't need to rely on evidence. And facts are impotent when compared to myth. @deadpoet and c, are still in the enlightenment confusion.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Tokyo wrote:deadpoet wrote:Seems I'm late to the party. Just as well, from the past few posts it seems like this thread has degenerated into name calling and other kinds of discord.
For those wazuans going to church today (I believe that most people here are Christians?), here's some food for thought:
1. Two creation stories in Genesis (?)
2. No archeaological evidence that Jews were in Egypt (with all those hieroglyphics, its strange no one bothered to indicate that the Nile once turned red).
3. No geological evidence of the Deluge. Also strange that the first human act after finding land is to offer an animal sacrifice (?)
4. Also, no dinosaurs in the bible- but giants, winged creatures (cherubs) and demigods (nephilim).
"if there's a creator, he must have an inordinate fondness for beetles" They will tell you to ignore facts and believe in fiction. The only evidence they have is faith. Faith is all you need. Without faith, there's no purpose to life. Think about it. Everything is based on faith even waking up alive tomorrow morning, many won't. But you guys haven't answered my question yet, what is the alternative you are offering to worshiping God? Give us an alternative that is not nothing.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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deadpoet wrote:Seems I'm late to the party. Just as well, from the past few posts it seems like this thread has degenerated into name calling and other kinds of discord.
For those wazuans going to church today (I believe that most people here are Christians?), here's some food for thought:
1. Two creation stories in Genesis (?)
2. No archeaological evidence that Jews were in Egypt (with all those hieroglyphics, its strange no one bothered to indicate that the Nile once turned red).
3. No geological evidence of the Deluge. Also strange that the first human act after finding land is to offer an animal sacrifice (?)
4. Also, no dinosaurs in the bible- but giants, winged creatures (cherubs) and demigods (nephilim).
"if there's a creator, he must have an inordinate fondness for beetles"
1. Two creation stories in Genesis? Care to expound...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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2012 wrote:
Faith is all you need. Without faith, there's no purpose to life. Think about it. Everything is based on faith even waking up alive tomorrow morning, many won't.
But you guys haven't answered my question yet, what is the alternative you are offering to worshiping God? Give us an alternative that is not nothing.
The many who won't wake up alive tommorow including you and I one day.. is their sleep/death a lack of faith? 'God' is a very generic label. Wewe unaongea ukiwa camp gani? Jevovah YHWH Allah Jesus the universe etc etc... Alternative unaitisha ni yet another camp another box. How do you worship? Do you know when you are worshipping vs when you are not? When you are not worshipping who are you?
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/17/2010 Posts: 572
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Guys, your views on the following supposition, you wake up one morning to find that all of humanity(you included) has lost the ability to remember, what kind of world would we have? Can man prosper without memory 'One headache for famous medieval holy people was that someone might murder you to acquire your body parts for the relics trade'
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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vky wrote:Guys, your views on the following supposition, you wake up one morning to find that all of humanity(you included) has lost the ability to remember, what kind of world would we have? Can man prosper without memory That to me is a description of heaven. We would 'see' each other for the first time. The difference between seeing anything as it is and seeing its label is infinite.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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vky wrote:Guys, your views on the following supposition, you wake up one morning to find that all of humanity(you included) has lost the ability to remember, what kind of world would we have? Can man prosper without memory No memory, no world, no humanity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Mukiri wrote:deadpoet wrote:Seems I'm late to the party. Just as well, from the past few posts it seems like this thread has degenerated into name calling and other kinds of discord.
For those wazuans going to church today (I believe that most people here are Christians?), here's some food for thought:
1. Two creation stories in Genesis (?)
2. No archeaological evidence that Jews were in Egypt (with all those hieroglyphics, its strange no one bothered to indicate that the Nile once turned red).
3. No geological evidence of the Deluge. Also strange that the first human act after finding land is to offer an animal sacrifice (?)
4. Also, no dinosaurs in the bible- but giants, winged creatures (cherubs) and demigods (nephilim).
"if there's a creator, he must have an inordinate fondness for beetles"
1. Two creation stories in Genesis? Care to expound... Actually, two creation accounts Gen.1 and Gen.2. Two Noah's accounts, Gen.6 and Gen.7. Two sets of the 10 commandments, Exodus 20 and Exodus 34. Differing genealogies of Christ and I suppose many other 'doubles' and seeming 'contradictions'... All evidence of humans consciously and actively creating myth.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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vky wrote:Guys, your views on the following supposition, you wake up one morning to find that all of humanity(you included) has lost the ability to remember, what kind of world would we have? Can man prosper without memory In that case the word prosperity would have no meaning. Prosperity would be inconsequential. We would be like the other wild animals.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/17/2010 Posts: 572
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2012 wrote:vky wrote:Guys, your views on the following supposition, you wake up one morning to find that all of humanity(you included) has lost the ability to remember, what kind of world would we have? Can man prosper without memory In that case the word prosperity would have no meaning. Prosperity would be inconsequential. We would be like the other wild animals. prosperity in this case means the ability of human life to sustain itself and not die off 'One headache for famous medieval holy people was that someone might murder you to acquire your body parts for the relics trade'
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Does anybody know if the moon has been seen yet so that Muslims can start starving themselves? Lol.
AlphDoti. If the moon is playing hide and seek with you guys, why don't you just replace it with the sun and start the unnecessary starvation already? The sun doesn't disappoint, it's always present. Lol.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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https://buzzsouthafrica....lowing-30-days-fasting/
We need more and more pastors to perform these miracles. Stupid is as stupid does.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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I'm curious, what do you get out of all this mockery? Is it that you want everybody to be like you, since you have the perfect life with perfect values? Why not live and let live? Or won't the spirit inside you let you be?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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In Insurance industry, how do the atheist call an Act of God incident? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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Mukiri wrote:I'm curious, what do you get out of all this mockery? Is it that you want everybody to be like you, since you have the perfect life with perfect values?
Why not live and let live? Or won't the spirit inside you let you be? Do you live and let live? Think evangelism.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Swenani wrote:In Insurance industry, how do the atheist call an Act of God incident? I have seen atheists type RIP... So do they believe in afterlife?
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Mukiri wrote:I'm curious, what do you get out of all this mockery? Is it that you want everybody to be like you, since you have the perfect life with perfect values?
Why not live and let live? Or won't the spirit inside you let you be? Live and let live? You have to be kidding me. How about you religious people live and let live instead of shoving religion down our throats. Everywhere you go there is religion. You walk down the street and somebody wants to give you some religious flyer inviting you to their church or crusade or kesha. You can't even enjoy a peaceful Sunday morning without having some Jehovah witness people knocking on your door and you think that atheists are the ones with the problem of living and letting live? Unbelievable. We have to enlighten people. Religion and imaginary gods are holding people back. We need to get people out of this ignorance. Religion is detrimental to society and the more we educate people on the ills of religion the more we will save gullible people from being eaten by crocodiles and/or starving themselves to death in the name of mythical miracles. People need to be educated and enlightened. We can't continue having naive people getting fleeced out of their hard earned money by wily pastors every day. There is a reason that developed countries are largely atheist while poor third world countries in Africa are religious. The more religious a country the poorer it is. That is not a coincidence, it's clear evidence of the correlation. If we are to progress, religion and imaginary gods have to be eradicated. Otherwise we will have generations after generations that are waiting for a non existent god to solve their problems. So tragic.
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