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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways. http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote] Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround . Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways? Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news!
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways. http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote] Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround . Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways? Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news! It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways. http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote] Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround . Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways? Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news! It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries. I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways. http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote] Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround . Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways? Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news! It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries. I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,639 Location: NAIROBI
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@ Arestedevelopment We got money for budgetary support and projects. Qatar has been wanting that route since 2007 but Kibaki always refused Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:@ Arestedevelopment
We got money for budgetary support and projects.
Qatar has been wanting that route since 2007 but Kibaki always refused Now Kinyua has handed it out and they want a mobitelea in KQ. I do not know what this guys are after.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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tick tock
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,053 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways. http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote] Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround . Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways? Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news! It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries. I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this. Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections. Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentives for better services, value and freedom of choice. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/29/2016 Posts: 898 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:[quote=Spikes][quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways. http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote] Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround . Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways? Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news! It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries. I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this. Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections. Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentives for better services, value and freedom of choice. [/quote Qatar Airways is highly subsidized by the state and also benefit immensely from cheap labour. You cannot compare the cost base of KQ to that of Qatar Airways.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:[quote=Spikes][quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways. http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote] Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround . Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways? Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news! It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries. I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this. Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections. Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentives for better services, value and freedom of choice. [/quote Qatar Airways is highly subsidized by the state and also benefit immensely from cheap labour. You cannot compare the cost base of KQ to that of Qatar Airways. Same case for ET & SAA.. They get massive subsidies. But luckily help from GoK is around the corner for KQ
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways. http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote] Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround . Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways? Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news! It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries. I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this. Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections. Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentive a for better services, value and freedom of choice. This is the most misinformed post I have ever seen from you. Qatar will slaughter KQ and have it for dinner. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:[quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways. http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote] Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround . Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways? Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news! It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries. I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this. Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections. Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentive a for better services, value and freedom of choice. This is the most misinformed post I have ever seen from you. Qatar will slaughter KQ and have it for dinner. Hehe @sparkly, wachana na @vvs.. Meanwhile, JJ is doing wonders http://www.businessdaily...08044-vijuu6z/index.html
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,053 Location: Nairobi
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ArrestedDev wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:[quote=Spikes][quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways. http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote] Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround . Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways? Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news! It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries. I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this. Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections. Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentives for better services, value and freedom of choice. [/quote Qatar Airways is highly subsidized by the state and also benefit immensely from cheap labour. You cannot compare the cost base of KQ to that of Qatar Airways. KQ also gets subsidies through cheap loans or guarantees on loans. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:ArrestedDev wrote:obiero wrote:[quote=Spikes][quote=Ericsson]Qatar Airways has announced that it will launch direct flights between Mombasa and Doha next year, stepping up domestic competition for national carrier Kenya Airways. http://www.businessdaily...04060-22th1i/index.html[/quote] Which means Kenya's national carrier KQ is strapped between hard rock of competition and dilemma of turnaround . Will it stand the pressure of competition from world class Asian carriers like Qatar airways? Chief you are looking at this thing upside down! Will Qatar jet the passengers from Kisumu to Mombasa for onward transit to Doha? Once the passengers get to Mombasa, are we assuming that they will stay in Mombasa only or will want to visit Antananarivo, Blantyre, Cotonou or Bangui? Ngunze's winning big in Africa dream is the silver bullet for KQ. Let the international airlines bring peope into Africa. Its good news! It is not good news for KQ. Tourists from Europe, US and other continents which KQ, KLM and other Sky team partners could have flown to NBO then onwards to MBS by KQ are gone. Qatar Airways and the other One world alliance partners will now be the beneficiaries. I understand you on the direct entry to MSA but 100% will choose Qatar or other alliance partners?? The Nairobi link is crucial and it's unlikely that their chosen route will carry stupendous numbers Yes it will adversely affect the numbers for KQ especially NBO-MBS, AMS-NBO, Paris-NBO, LHR-NBO AND even FROM Asia. Uhuruto signed it off when the Emir was in NBO a few weeks ago. I miss Kibaki's advisors, although they were corrupt, still they knew what is strategic and not. I am not sure what we got from Qatar in exchange for this. Mombasa residents benefit from better, easier & cheaper connections. Protectionism isn't optimal. Competition creates incentives for better services, value and freedom of choice. [/quote Qatar Airways is highly subsidized by the state and also benefit immensely from cheap labour. You cannot compare the cost base of KQ to that of Qatar Airways. KQ also gets subsidies through cheap loans or guarantees on loans. Not enough.. We need even the ticket price to be subsidised
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2016 Posts: 225
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@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May. Reflection Eternal
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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Flo-ology wrote:@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May. Yes.. That's what was supposed to happen. But good things come to those who wait
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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Flo-ology wrote:@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May. But May has just started? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Flo-ology wrote:@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May. Yes.. That's what was supposed to happen. But good things come to those who wait  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,475 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:Flo-ology wrote:@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May. Yes.. That's what was supposed to happen. But good things come to those who wait @maka we await the 2 big announcements in a few days. Then the 1 huge announcement in 1 month. Only way is up!!! 30% minimum gain expected
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2016 Posts: 225
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Flo-ology wrote:@Obiero, why is taking long to name the new CEO? I thought you said announcement was to come in before end of May. Yes.. That's what was supposed to happen. But good things come to those who wait @maka we await the 2 big announcements in a few days. Then the 1 huge announcement in 1 month. Only way is up!!! 30% minimum gain expected @obiero, which announcements are these: new CEO? I thought Mbuvi will still hold on for some time? Reduced operating loss?? Or entry of new partner to replace KLM? Mind Elaborating? Reflection Eternal
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