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Drobos fly wrote:masukuma wrote:
Do the Jews follow their ancient teachings?
That's flawed. Jews are human as much as we all are. You can't use them as a yardstick to determine your own actions. The faith originated with God, not with the Jews. The thing unique about them is that they are God's chosen nation (the apple of God's eye) and through them, the faith came. @drobos, without turning this into a religious discourse, I just want to say you were correct at first, but went wrong towards end of your paragraph... Faith didn't originate from Jews. Ibrahim was father of faith. And Ibrahim was neither a Jew nor Christian. Jews are the sons of Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel... Is that too hard to understand for an intelligent guy like you? NOTE: If you want to debate it religiously, let's take it to RELIGIOUS DISCOURSE thread...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:This problem is caused by environment and the kind of exposure child faced during upbringing. It is the consequence of wrong exposure to such things while growing up...
It might start when young girls play with each others genitals, or young boys experiencing with their genitals and as they do it, they might like the feeling. What happens is that sexual urge rises in the child while growing up towards the same gender and they ended up develop such habits. how would you know? again... what about intersex... If you refer to examples I gave, similarly, if a man lusts after another man, he has one of two options. Either he minimise this urge and find happiness in women, which is possible and it has been done. Or if he really finds it impossible well then the only alternative for him is to live a celibate life. Nobody is forcing a woman on him. Nobody is forcing him to get married. He has to battle that urge just like I have to battle urges for women that are not allowed for me. Just like the kleptomaniacs have to battle urges to steal. Just like the alcoholic when he passes by some alcohol and his doctor has told him not to drink, he remembers how alcohol tastes. Just like a drug addict. Just because he has the urge it does not justify manifestation of that urge. NOTE: people are battling different kind of urges but they DO NOT act on them due to its effect on ineself or society...Having said that, being does not disqualify you from being a good person. Just like drinking alcohol does not not necessarily mean you're a bad person. You can be a good person and be a homosexual. But I will tell this person what you're doing immoral according to the teachings of my faith, and Christinaity, and Judaism.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:
If you refer to examples I gave, similarly, if a man lusts after another man, he has one of two options. Either he minimise this urge and find happiness in women, which is possible and it has been done. Or if he really finds it impossible well then the only alternative for him is to live a celibate life. Nobody is forcing a woman on him. Nobody is forcing him to get married.
He has to battle that urgejust like I have to battle urges for women that are not allowed for me . Just like the kleptomaniacs have to battle urges to steal. Just like the alcoholic when he passes by some alcohol and his doctor has told him not to drink, he remembers how alcohol tastes. Just like a drug addict.
Just because he has the urge it does not justify manifestation of that urge.
NOTE: people are battling different kind of urges but they DO NOT act on them due to its effect on ineself or society...
Having said that, being does not disqualify you from being a good person. Just like drinking alcohol does not not necessarily mean you're a bad person. You can be a good person and be a homosexual. But I will tell this person what you're doing immoral according to the teachings of my faith, and Christinaity, and Judaism.
that's where you go wrong... YOU DICTATE TO HIM HIS OPTIONS!! Why should he live within your dictates and his actions do not affect you? Why does a leopard have to fight his spots? perhaps the bigger question is "Pilipili usioila,yakuwashia nini?" Why do you project your self imposed limitations on to another person? This person is not dictating to you to obey your "urges" why would you think you have some authority to dictate to him? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Why is it that religious pious lunatics are the ones who want to control other people? Why is it that they are always always wrong on issues to do with science, biology and chemistry? Tembea dunia tafadhali. Being transgender is biological. When you think about it, it is your god who created them. And whatever he creates is perfect...according to you. You are the same fellas who used to take albinos to the edge of the forest. Because your god said so... your pastors and kadhis are the same ones who used to enslave black people...because your god said so... even the current wars about ISIS vs Jews vs Muslims vs etc etc...because your god said so.... you really like blaming your god for soooo many issues. Issues that should have been dealt with by simply being good people.. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Kleptomania
Definition
Kleptomania (klep-toe-MAY-nee-uh) is the recurrent failure to resist urges to steal items that you generally don't really need and that usually have little value. Kleptomania is a serious mental health disorder that can cause much emotional pain to you and your loved ones if not treated.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,579
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AlphDoti wrote:Kleptomania
Definition
Kleptomania (klep-toe-MAY-nee-uh) is the recurrent failure to resist urges to steal items that you generally don't really need and that usually have little value. Kleptomania is a serious mental health disorder that can cause much emotional pain to you and your loved ones if not treated. AGREE The kleptomaniac will blame god and the bible for forbidding stealing, he wants 'Anarchy' which is a bonafide social system, and can be tried, some people really pile so many of their own made problems on 'religion" and 'god' till you wonder where they thought about of these gods in the whole process. These manics kill each other violently by themselves, they are their worst own enemies, where they drag religion into their problems i don't know, super goggles. It's like they have never read history to know this issues have been there without "god" and the issues are in them, not their "gods", it's a kind of ukabila ujinga where a fellow who thinks "he is perfect thinking" and must find a "victim" for his imperfections, because yeye ni "intelligent sana" to be wrong, culprit, religion and god, kila saa, and some garbage ideas of science to boot, why? Ask Trump, kuna ujinga ingine bwana! Yet they are always thinking of god, and blaming "god" which god is this they see and fight 100% of the time everywhere? Talk of delusional. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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alma1 wrote:Why is it that religious pious lunatics are the ones who want to control other people?
Why is it that they are always always wrong on issues to do with science, biology and chemistry?
Tembea dunia tafadhali. Being transgender is biological. When you think about it, it is your god who created them. And whatever he creates is perfect...according to you.
You are the same fellas who used to take albinos to the edge of the forest. Because your god said so...
your pastors and kadhis are the same ones who used to enslave black people...because your god said so...
even the current wars about ISIS vs Jews vs Muslims vs etc etc...because your god said so....
you really like blaming your god for soooo many issues. Issues that should have been dealt with by simply being good people.. Alma you have no chill....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:Kleptomania
Definition
Kleptomania (klep-toe-MAY-nee-uh) is the recurrent failure to resist urges to steal items that you generally don't really need and that usually have little value. Kleptomania is a serious mental health disorder that can cause much emotional pain to you and your loved ones if not treated. I know who a Kleptomaniac is... I KNEW ABOUT IT IN PRIMARY SCHOOL! (Student's companion anyone?... but I digress) yeah... to steal whose stuff? I can see how it would be undesirable to have someone around me stealing MY STUFF!! regardless of what his excuse is... it's my stuff. if a kleptomaniac stole his stuff... sioni shida. or even better they got into a club where they allowed each other to steal from each other but to no one outside that group - it's none of my business. Don't you see - your rights end where mine begin! their right to express and fulfill their urges end where mine begin. so back again... how are your rights being infringed? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/24/2012 Posts: 331 Location: Vantage point
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AlphDoti wrote:
@drobos, without turning this into a religious discourse, I just want to say you were correct at first, but went wrong towards end of your paragraph...
Faith didn't originate from Jews. Ibrahim was father of faith. And Ibrahim was neither a Jew nor Christian. Jews are the sons of Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel... Is that too hard to understand for an intelligent guy like you?
NOTE: If you want to debate it religiously, let's take it to RELIGIOUS DISCOURSE thread...
I don't know where I wrote that Faith originated from the Jews as you claim. You may have read a little too too fast filling in details that were not there. I know that Abraham was the father of faith and I know he used to worship Sin a moon god before his walked changed when God started walking with him. I know Jacob fathered Israel. Anyway, let me just cut to the chase on that.... I know you are a Muslim and I'm a born again believer. We tend toward the same thing but differ on certain matters like of Jesus (Mohamed), the Trinity and the reason for the presence of the Holy Spirit in our lives and various other many things that I will not go into for thread-jacking reasons. You cannot save yourself from sin unless God through His Spirit reveals your state and leads you in a path that saves you, so I'm not going to bulldoze around trying to show others that their opinions are wrong. It's not my work to save people or to open their eyes, it's my work to share the Word of God as I know it and have learnt it. To me it's futile engaging in a RELIGIOUS DISCOURSE thread.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Drobos fly wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Drobos fly wrote:masukuma wrote:
Do the Jews follow their ancient teachings?
That's flawed. Jews are human as much as we all are. You can't use them as a yardstick to determine your own actions. The faith originated with God, not with the Jews. The thing unique about them is that they are God's chosen nation (the apple of God's eye) and through them, the faith came. @drobos, without turning this into a religious discourse, I just want to say you were correct at first, but went wrong towards end of your paragraph... Faith didn't originate from Jews. Ibrahim was father of faith. And Ibrahim was neither a Jew nor Christian. Jews are the sons of Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel... Is that too hard to understand for an intelligent guy like you? NOTE: If you want to debate it religiously, let's take it to RELIGIOUS DISCOURSE thread... I don't know where I wrote that Faith originated from the Jews as you claim. You may have read a little too too fast filling in details that were not there. I know that Abraham was the father of faith and I know he used to worship Sin a moon god before his walked changed when God started walking with him. I know Jacob fathered Israel. Anyway, let me just cut to the chase on that.... I know you are a Muslim and I'm a born again believer. We tend toward the same thing but differ on certain matters like of Jesus (Mohamed), the Trinity and the reason for the presence of the Holy Spirit in our lives and various other many things that I will not go into for thread-jacking reasons. You cannot save yourself from sin unless God through His Spirit reveals your state and leads you in a path that saves you, so I'm not going to bulldoze around trying to show others that their opinions are wrong. It's not my work to save people or to open their eyes, it's my work to share the Word of God as I know it and have learnt it. To me it's futile engaging in a RELIGIOUS DISCOURSE thread. Sorry, you didn't say "Faith originated from the Jews"... You said "faith came through Jews". You are forgetting faith did not go through only the Jews. Abraham was not a Jew. I wanted to point out your blind support for Jews... I want to remind you a Christian that they should not forget it is Jewish teaching that Jesus, the son of Mary, is considered to be a ‘bastard’ and an ‘imposter’ whose death "by hanging". Ati God chosen people. Sad to see Christian fall for racism in the Bible... Deuteronomy 23:3 “ An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; ...shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever;”
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