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Party primaries drama election 2017
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#51 Posted : Sunday, April 09, 2017 11:17:27 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 8/4/2008
Posts: 2,849
Location: Rupi
Shak wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Was in Nyeri and here is what I have gathered.

1. Governor - mutahi kagwe is the guy to beat.

2. Senator - wamahiu is ahead but you can hear loud murmurs because he is a D-maina guy.

3. Women rep - nyokabi Tena

4. Kieni - kanini kega coming back

5. Othaya - Gichuki kangara with a landslide

6. Mathira - It's Rigathi's to loose

7. Mukurweini - kabando tena for lack of a serious challenger after wathika's death.

8. Tetu - No frontrunner yet but they don't re-elect anyone. So anyone but githinji.

9. Nyeri town - Esther set to make history by being re-elected for the third time.

I really hope Mutahi Kagwe makes it. Very professional


They don't want the lady of Othaya? I didnt want her in the first place. Are there grammar schools in Othaya?

Governor Mutahi is an excellent one
Lord, thank you!
2012
#52 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 9:12:10 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
The Jubilee primaries/nominations are on 21st April, right?
Looking forward to Nairobi, Mbuvi vs Kenneth.

So who's going for the undesired post of Senator? Yaani, the country is not talking of Senators, it's like this position doesn't exist anymore.

BBI will solve it
:)
Lolest!
#53 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 9:17:08 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
2012 wrote:

So who's going for the undesired post of Senator? Yaani, the country is not talking of Senators, it's like this position doesn't exist anymore.

People(politicians) have seen that what we kept saying is true. Senate is absolutely useless!!

It's work can easily be handled by a committee of the National Assembly with 47 members(1 per county)

Disband it
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Shak
#54 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 10:36:38 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/22/2009
Posts: 2,449
Location: Africa
Lolest! wrote:
2012 wrote:

So who's going for the undesired post of Senator? Yaani, the country is not talking of Senators, it's like this position doesn't exist anymore.

People(politicians) have seen that what we kept saying is true. Senate is absolutely useless!!

It's work can easily be handled by a committee of the National Assembly with 47 members(1 per county)

Disband it

Current senators are even preferring to be mps! The likes of Machage and Ongoro
washiku
#55 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 11:00:03 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
Shak wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
2012 wrote:

So who's going for the undesired post of Senator? Yaani, the country is not talking of Senators, it's like this position doesn't exist anymore.

People(politicians) have seen that what we kept saying is true. Senate is absolutely useless!!

It's work can easily be handled by a committee of the National Assembly with 47 members(1 per county)

Disband it

Current senators are even preferring to be mps! The likes of Machage and Ongoro


Some are even running for MCA

http://www.the-star.co.k...a-and-governor_c1520141

http://www.the-star.co.k...-to-vie-for-mca_c1319759
masukuma
#56 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 11:38:35 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
2012 wrote:
The Jubilee primaries/nominations are on 21st April, right?
Looking forward to Nairobi, Mbuvi vs Kenneth.

So who's going for the undesired post of Senator? Yaani, the country is not talking of Senators, it's like this position doesn't exist anymore.

You guys are missing the point of what the senate is...the Senate is a house of equity.
the problem is that we have people who want to eat and are looking for offices with budgets. The senate is meant to balance 'rough/raw' democracy of the national assembly. The national assembly which is roughly the equivalent of representative houses for population is almost representative of populations i.e. Nairobi which has 4m people has 17 seats in the national assembly (just slightly more than 200k people per seat) compared to Kwale county which has less than 700k people has 4 seats. (just less than 200k people per seat). Nakuru with it's 1.6m people has 11 constituencies. Garissa with its 6 constituencies has like 600k people. All these have 1 seat in the senate. Nairobi has 1, Garissa has 1, Marsabit has 1. This is where equity and egalitarianism of our system takes place. The problem with most kenyans is that they don't strive to understand WHY we have these seats. WHY do we have WOMEN REPS, WHY do we have SENATORS. WHY do we have 290 parliamentary seats and yet we voted YES to this constitution. Some of us who were opposed to the then constitution actually READ IT and understood it and pointed out holes in it but the lazy minded ones who complain today walifuata upepo... now sit down and get educated on WHY these positions exist. Remember - while we are DEMOCRATIC we are also a REPUBLIC where we are a nation state with a certain equality between its members. the senate seat has less meaning to a nairobian than it has to a guy in Lamu with their 100k people. That is where the 'amu' people feel like they have a voice equal to the luhyas of Kakamega.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Lolest!
#57 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 2:03:36 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
The Jubilee primaries/nominations are on 21st April, right?
Looking forward to Nairobi, Mbuvi vs Kenneth.

So who's going for the undesired post of Senator? Yaani, the country is not talking of Senators, it's like this position doesn't exist anymore.

You guys are missing the point of what the senate is...the Senate is a house of equity.
the problem is that we have people who want to eat and are looking for offices with budgets. The senate is meant to balance 'rough/raw' democracy of the national assembly. The national assembly which is roughly the equivalent of representative houses for population is almost representative of populations i.e. Nairobi which has 4m people has 17 seats in the national assembly (just slightly more than 200k people per seat) compared to Kwale county which has less than 700k people has 4 seats. (just less than 200k people per seat). Nakuru with it's 1.6m people has 11 constituencies. Garissa with its 6 constituencies has like 600k people. All these have 1 seat in the senate. Nairobi has 1, Garissa has 1, Marsabit has 1. This is where equity and egalitarianism of our system takes place. The problem with most kenyans is that they don't strive to understand WHY we have these seats. WHY do we have WOMEN REPS, WHY do we have SENATORS. WHY do we have 290 parliamentary seats and yet we voted YES to this constitution. Some of us who were opposed to the then constitution actually READ IT and understood it and pointed out holes in it but the lazy minded ones who complain today walifuata upepo... now sit down and get educated on WHY these positions exist. Remember - while we are DEMOCRATIC we are also a REPUBLIC where we are a nation state with a certain equality between its members. the senate seat has less meaning to a nairobian than it has to a guy in Lamu with their 100k people. That is where the 'amu' people feel like they have a voice equal to the luhyas of Kakamega.

I actually read and reread the katiba, saw the issues and wondered "Kwani tutashinda hapa?"

You have not told us how the senate is helping us. It could easily be replaced by a 47-person committee of the National Assembly and achieve the same!
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
2012
#58 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 3:12:19 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
The Jubilee primaries/nominations are on 21st April, right?
Looking forward to Nairobi, Mbuvi vs Kenneth.

So who's going for the undesired post of Senator? Yaani, the country is not talking of Senators, it's like this position doesn't exist anymore.

You guys are missing the point of what the senate is...the Senate is a house of equity.
the problem is that we have people who want to eat and are looking for offices with budgets. The senate is meant to balance 'rough/raw' democracy of the national assembly. The national assembly which is roughly the equivalent of representative houses for population is almost representative of populations i.e. Nairobi which has 4m people has 17 seats in the national assembly (just slightly more than 200k people per seat) compared to Kwale county which has less than 700k people has 4 seats. (just less than 200k people per seat). Nakuru with it's 1.6m people has 11 constituencies. Garissa with its 6 constituencies has like 600k people. All these have 1 seat in the senate. Nairobi has 1, Garissa has 1, Marsabit has 1. This is where equity and egalitarianism of our system takes place. The problem with most kenyans is that they don't strive to understand WHY we have these seats. WHY do we have WOMEN REPS, WHY do we have SENATORS. WHY do we have 290 parliamentary seats and yet we voted YES to this constitution. Some of us who were opposed to the then constitution actually READ IT and understood it and pointed out holes in it but the lazy minded ones who complain today walifuata upepo... now sit down and get educated on WHY these positions exist. Remember - while we are DEMOCRATIC we are also a REPUBLIC where we are a nation state with a certain equality between its members. the senate seat has less meaning to a nairobian than it has to a guy in Lamu with their 100k people. That is where the 'amu' people feel like they have a voice equal to the luhyas of Kakamega.


How is the Senate the house of equity? Equity for whom? In fact it is the house of inequity because you have some Senators representing small counties population-wise or area-wise while others represent the opposite. Senate was to provide oversight over the county government and they have failed absolutely. Can Sonko tell us where Kidero took 20 billion shillings??? Why are Kidero and other Governors not in jail?

BBI will solve it
:)
masukuma
#59 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 5:39:16 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
2012 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
The Jubilee primaries/nominations are on 21st April, right?
Looking forward to Nairobi, Mbuvi vs Kenneth.

So who's going for the undesired post of Senator? Yaani, the country is not talking of Senators, it's like this position doesn't exist anymore.

You guys are missing the point of what the senate is...the Senate is a house of equity.
the problem is that we have people who want to eat and are looking for offices with budgets. The senate is meant to balance 'rough/raw' democracy of the national assembly. The national assembly which is roughly the equivalent of representative houses for population is almost representative of populations i.e. Nairobi which has 4m people has 17 seats in the national assembly (just slightly more than 200k people per seat) compared to Kwale county which has less than 700k people has 4 seats. (just less than 200k people per seat). Nakuru with it's 1.6m people has 11 constituencies. Garissa with its 6 constituencies has like 600k people. All these have 1 seat in the senate. Nairobi has 1, Garissa has 1, Marsabit has 1. This is where equity and egalitarianism of our system takes place. The problem with most kenyans is that they don't strive to understand WHY we have these seats. WHY do we have WOMEN REPS, WHY do we have SENATORS. WHY do we have 290 parliamentary seats and yet we voted YES to this constitution. Some of us who were opposed to the then constitution actually READ IT and understood it and pointed out holes in it but the lazy minded ones who complain today walifuata upepo... now sit down and get educated on WHY these positions exist. Remember - while we are DEMOCRATIC we are also a REPUBLIC where we are a nation state with a certain equality between its members. the senate seat has less meaning to a nairobian than it has to a guy in Lamu with their 100k people. That is where the 'amu' people feel like they have a voice equal to the luhyas of Kakamega.


How is the Senate the house of equity? Equity for whom? In fact it is the house of inequity because you have some Senators representing small counties population-wise or area-wise while others represent the opposite. Senate was to provide oversight over the county government and they have failed absolutely. Can Sonko tell us where Kidero took 20 billion shillings??? Why are Kidero and other Governors not in jail?


remember we are REPUBLIC at the same time as having a system of government that is DEMOCRATIC.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#60 Posted : Monday, April 10, 2017 5:46:59 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
2012 wrote:
The Jubilee primaries/nominations are on 21st April, right?
Looking forward to Nairobi, Mbuvi vs Kenneth.

So who's going for the undesired post of Senator? Yaani, the country is not talking of Senators, it's like this position doesn't exist anymore.

You guys are missing the point of what the senate is...the Senate is a house of equity.
the problem is that we have people who want to eat and are looking for offices with budgets. The senate is meant to balance 'rough/raw' democracy of the national assembly. The national assembly which is roughly the equivalent of representative houses for population is almost representative of populations i.e. Nairobi which has 4m people has 17 seats in the national assembly (just slightly more than 200k people per seat) compared to Kwale county which has less than 700k people has 4 seats. (just less than 200k people per seat). Nakuru with it's 1.6m people has 11 constituencies. Garissa with its 6 constituencies has like 600k people. All these have 1 seat in the senate. Nairobi has 1, Garissa has 1, Marsabit has 1. This is where equity and egalitarianism of our system takes place. The problem with most kenyans is that they don't strive to understand WHY we have these seats. WHY do we have WOMEN REPS, WHY do we have SENATORS. WHY do we have 290 parliamentary seats and yet we voted YES to this constitution. Some of us who were opposed to the then constitution actually READ IT and understood it and pointed out holes in it but the lazy minded ones who complain today walifuata upepo... now sit down and get educated on WHY these positions exist. Remember - while we are DEMOCRATIC we are also a REPUBLIC where we are a nation state with a certain equality between its members. the senate seat has less meaning to a nairobian than it has to a guy in Lamu with their 100k people. That is where the 'amu' people feel like they have a voice equal to the luhyas of Kakamega.

I actually read and reread the katiba, saw the issues and wondered "Kwani tutashinda hapa?"

You have not told us how the senate is helping us. It could easily be replaced by a 47-person committee of the National Assembly and achieve the same!

the National Assembly is supposed to be very inward looking... there is no such thing as a national assembly member who represents a county except the women's rep for numerical reasons. any member of parliament is supposed to PRIMARILY LOOK AFTER NUMBER 1! their constituents!! not sijui Coal in Garissa and you are from Bahati... you are supposed to beat to the drum of your employers... That is why I like that gatundu MP Moses Kuria... LOOK AFTER NO.1!!! kila MP akifanya hivyo things will go well. you must always have an eye on your constituency.. hiyo budget inapitishwa... inahusu watu wangu vipi? kama haiwahusu - could I be bought to vote a certain way so that the guys I scratch their backs now will scratch my back when my issue comes for discussion? Kama wamekataa abscond!! vuta pande yako!! What we have is a bunch of people who fail to do what they were employed to do because they want to do everything!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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