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Doping in sports
madollar
#41 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 12:16:05 PM
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You have to feel for lornah kiplagat her camp is now blacklisted whether the allegations are true or not ,no elite athlete will want to be spotted in that camp and the way its been a favorite for foreigners Sad

Training camp owner denies doping took place on premises in Kenya
Gathige
#42 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 4:22:30 PM
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Very sad indeed. In the not so distant future, we may not have a slot in the Olympics if these doping allegations are true. Kenya being Kenya, it may be true.
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Alba
#43 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:43:42 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Very sad indeed. In the not so distant future, we may not have a slot in the Olympics if these doping allegations are true. Kenya being Kenya, it may be true.


There is far too much drama around Kenya. The real doping systems are in Eastern Europe. Also I am sure Kenya is not the only country with insufficient anti-doping structures.

I mean loook at Botswana for petes sake. All of a sudden they have numerous world class 400m runners. Do they have sufficient anti-doping structures? What of Ethiopia? I am having acute difficulty believing Genzebe Dibaba is clean considering her unnatural progression. And note that she and Mo Farah are coached by Jama Aden who was recently busted in Spain for having EPO vials and needles in his home.
Alba
#44 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 3:25:44 PM
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Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.
masukuma
#45 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 3:32:50 PM
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Alba wrote:
Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.

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sitaki.kujulikana
#46 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:48:56 PM
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Alba wrote:
Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.

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washiku
#47 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:58:20 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Alba wrote:
Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.



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Alba
#48 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 5:25:52 PM
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washiku wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Alba wrote:
Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.



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Othelo
#49 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:08:56 PM
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Alba wrote:
washiku wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Alba wrote:
Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.



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Alba
#50 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:46:38 PM
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Usain Bolt supports the ban on Russia

The sport of athletics has quickly become a joke to most casual fans. Bolt is one of the last few legit hopes. If Bolt is ever busted for doping, the sport may be finished. However I lean towards thinking Bolt is legit.
cnn
#51 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 2:11:31 PM
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I enjoyed watching Kendra Harrison break the women's 100m hurdles world record last night.It was one of those suspect ones set by east European runners in the 80s.Too bad she did not make the US team for the olympics.
sitaki.kujulikana
#52 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 3:11:43 PM
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Alba wrote:
Usain Bolt supports the ban on Russia

The sport of athletics has quickly become a joke to most casual fans. Bolt is one of the last few legit hopes. If Bolt is ever busted for doping, the sport may be finished. However I lean towards thinking Bolt is legit.

Quote:

Some critics have raised questions about Müller-Wohlfahrt, who uses unconventional techniques such as injecting calves’ blood, honey and extracts from crests of cockerels into his patients, but Bolt insisted the doctor made a huge difference to extending his career.

“I’ve been going there for years,” he said. “I have a really bad back problem and every year it gets worse. He’s the only person I’ve been to over the years that has figured out a way to make sure my back is OK and I can compete and I can stay on track.”

...
“I got tested this morning. The IAAF test me all the time, the World Anti-Doping Agency test me, everybody tests me. I have all the trust in my doctor and I support him 100%.”


hata that yellow jersey owner passed those tests, if being injected with contents from crests of cockerels is not doping then sijui smile
Alba
#53 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 5:59:44 PM
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masukuma wrote:



For some reason this pic was not appearing in my browser earlier.
I see now that Masukuma is a big fan of tribal voting and as someone pointed out, he has a habit of hijacking threads with irrelevant nonsense just for the sake of being contrarian.
Alba
#54 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:03:31 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Alba wrote:
Usain Bolt supports the ban on Russia

The sport of athletics has quickly become a joke to most casual fans. Bolt is one of the last few legit hopes. If Bolt is ever busted for doping, the sport may be finished. However I lean towards thinking Bolt is legit.

Quote:

Some critics have raised questions about Müller-Wohlfahrt, who uses unconventional techniques such as injecting calves’ blood, honey and extracts from crests of cockerels into his patients, but Bolt insisted the doctor made a huge difference to extending his career.

“I’ve been going there for years,” he said. “I have a really bad back problem and every year it gets worse. He’s the only person I’ve been to over the years that has figured out a way to make sure my back is OK and I can compete and I can stay on track.”

...
“I got tested this morning. The IAAF test me all the time, the World Anti-Doping Agency test me, everybody tests me. I have all the trust in my doctor and I support him 100%.”


hata that yellow jersey owner passed those tests, if being injected with contents from crests of cockerels is not doping then sijui smile


If calves blood is not on the list of banned substances then Bolt can use it.

These track athletes gulp and swallow almost a dozen supplements and stimulants every day. If you ever went to their house you would be appalled at the number of bottles of substances they have.
So long as they are not on the list of banned substances its fine.
If someone thinks calves blood is doping then they should petition to have it added to the list of banned substances.
Shak
#55 Posted : Friday, April 07, 2017 8:53:41 AM
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Jemima Sumgong our Olympics champion has failed a drugs test. At this rate Kenyans will be banned from all athletics events
maka
#56 Posted : Friday, April 07, 2017 12:05:47 PM
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Shak wrote:
Jemima Sumgong our Olympics champion has failed a drugs test. At this rate Kenyans will be banned from all athletics events


The way niliingiliwa earlier in this thread....smh.
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Buster
#57 Posted : Friday, April 07, 2017 1:02:13 PM
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maka wrote:
Shak wrote:
Jemima Sumgong our Olympics champion has failed a drugs test. At this rate Kenyans will be banned from all athletics events


The way niliingiliwa earlier in this thread....smh.

I hope she gets jailed if the B sample turns out positive. No Mercy! Jinga yeye.
sitaki.kujulikana
#58 Posted : Friday, April 07, 2017 2:10:21 PM
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Shak wrote:
Jemima Sumgong our Olympics champion has failed a drugs test. At this rate Kenyans will be banned from all athletics events

no way, the russian thing was just politics getting into sports, the Jamaicans, american, Britons have had their top athletes fail drugs tests, from the leaked wada doc, the guys in the west know how to hepa the testing guys by locking themselves in bathrooms, or just TUE'ing the system.
2012
#59 Posted : Friday, April 07, 2017 2:30:32 PM
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All athletes dope in one way or another, most dope in training. It's just about who gets caught today and who gets away. If all students in your school are cheating, why should you be the one to take a bad report form to your parents?

Anyway, I think we should have unofficial olympics where athletes are allowed to dope so we can experience the full athletic capability of a human being. Ama?

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sitaki.kujulikana
#60 Posted : Friday, April 07, 2017 4:05:37 PM
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2012 wrote:
All athletes dope in one way or another, most dope in training. It's just about who gets caught today and who gets away. If all students in your school are cheating, why should you be the one to take a bad report form to your parents?

Anyway, I think we should have unofficial olympics where athletes are allowed to dope so we can experience the full athletic capability of a human being. Ama?

I think it has been mentioned before, but we can never have a level playing field, I mean you can not compare the preparation and resources available to say mo farah and the Ethiopians or Kenyans, but the prize money comes from the west, and thus they are the ones who come up with their idea of a level field, of course favoring their people, which is understandable.
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