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KENGEN HY17
Ericsson
#51 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 3:50:57 PM
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@Moneydust
No need of arguing on things which have no basis.
I have pasted for you as below the list of top ten shareholders of kengen as at this year when they were allocating shares to PIC.
Indicate to me who NSSF is
Link to the list is as below;
http://www.kengen.co.ke/...llotment%20to%20PIC.PDF

//I know the name and custodial account NSSF Kenya normally uses.Indicate to me the one u know
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
moneydust
#52 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 4:32:45 PM
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Joined: 1/31/2007
Posts: 304
Ericsson wrote:
@Moneydust
No need of arguing on things which have no basis.
I have pasted for you as below the list of top ten shareholders of kengen as at this year when they were allocating shares to PIC.
Indicate to me who NSSF is
Link to the list is as below;
http://www.kengen.co.ke/...llotment%20to%20PIC.PDF

//I know the name and custodial account NSSF Kenya normally uses.Indicate to me the one u know

Standard Chartered Account KE11450-64,702,437 shares.This is just one account,there are others.
Ericsson
#53 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 4:56:21 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
moneydust wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@Moneydust
No need of arguing on things which have no basis.
I have pasted for you as below the list of top ten shareholders of kengen as at this year when they were allocating shares to PIC.
Indicate to me who NSSF is
Link to the list is as below;
http://www.kengen.co.ke/...llotment%20to%20PIC.PDF

//I know the name and custodial account NSSF Kenya normally uses.Indicate to me the one u know

Standard Chartered Account KE11450-64,702,437 shares.This is just one account,there are others.


NSSF normally uses Standard Chartered A/C 9230 which was transferred to Stanchart when Barclays sold its custodial business to Stanchart.
If you check the annual results for KENGEN 2015 you will find it there at position 3 but in 2016 it's out.
If you look at other companies where NSSF has shareholding like BBK,Stanchart,NMG,ARM you will find that account number.
Even when NSSF had shares in Safaricom that number you will find it.

NSSF was stopped from having multiple accounts after the Discount Securities fiasco where more than a bn of workers money was lost.
That number you have quoted I highly doubt it's NSSF
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#54 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:01:08 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
@Moneydust
Check also Co-operative Bank of Kenya annual report for 2015 under shareholder information.
Check who is number 5 on the list
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#55 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:47:06 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
@VVS
Since they are buying from the market at prevailing prices no need to put a demand notice.
When they first purchased the shares... They would probably gotten their demand met.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
bartum
#56 Posted: : Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:51:19 AM
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Joined: 8/11/2010
Posts: 1,011
Location: nairobi
When will be FY 2017 released, exchange bar?
shiznit
#57 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:23:26 AM
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Joined: 5/21/2013
Posts: 72
Location: KENYA
Ericsson wrote:
moneydust wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@Moneydust
No need of arguing on things which have no basis.
I have pasted for you as below the list of top ten shareholders of kengen as at this year when they were allocating shares to PIC.
Indicate to me who NSSF is
Link to the list is as below;
http://www.kengen.co.ke/...llotment%20to%20PIC.PDF

//I know the name and custodial account NSSF Kenya normally uses.Indicate to me the one u know

Standard Chartered Account KE11450-64,702,437 shares.This is just one account,there are others.


NSSF normally uses Standard Chartered A/C 9230 which was transferred to Stanchart when Barclays sold its custodial business to Stanchart.
If you check the annual results for KENGEN 2015 you will find it there at position 3 but in 2016 it's out.
If you look at other companies where NSSF has shareholding like BBK,Stanchart,NMG,ARM you will find that account number.
Even when NSSF had shares in Safaricom that number you will find it.

NSSF was stopped from having multiple accounts after the Discount Securities fiasco where more than a bn of workers money was lost.
That number you have quoted I highly doubt it's NSSF



Curious, how does one know the entity behind a custodial account? It could be very useful even for other counters.
“The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” - John Maynard Keynes
Ericsson
#58 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:24:17 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
bartum wrote:
When will be FY 2017 released, exchange bar?


In October
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#59 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:40:27 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Ericsson wrote:
bartum wrote:
When will be FY 2017 released, exchange bar?


In October


I expect a dividend
Life is short. Live passionately.
kawi254
#60 Posted : Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:23:18 AM
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