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M-Akiba treasury bonds via mobile
newfarer
#131 Posted : Monday, April 03, 2017 3:26:06 PM
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Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell
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Chaka
#132 Posted : Monday, April 03, 2017 4:17:07 PM
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Posts: 2,114
I am thinking as follows:
Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone else in exchange
for an agreed amount
( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker,should she wish to sell..

newfarer wrote:
Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell

Angelica _ann
#133 Posted : Monday, April 03, 2017 4:21:40 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
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Chaka wrote:
I am thinking as follows:
Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange
for an agreed amount
( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker

newfarer wrote:
Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell



Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard smile smile smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
maka
#134 Posted : Monday, April 03, 2017 4:26:23 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
Chaka wrote:
I am thinking as follows:
Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange
for an agreed amount
( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker

newfarer wrote:
Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell



Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard smile smile smile



This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing....
possunt quia posse videntur
Wakanyugi
#135 Posted : Monday, April 03, 2017 4:33:20 PM
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Joined: 7/3/2007
Posts: 1,635
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Chaka wrote:
I am thinking as follows:
Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange
for an agreed amount
( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker

newfarer wrote:
Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell



Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard smile smile smile



This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing....


Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
maka
#136 Posted : Monday, April 03, 2017 4:34:31 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Wakanyugi wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Chaka wrote:
I am thinking as follows:
Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange
for an agreed amount
( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker

newfarer wrote:
Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell



Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard smile smile smile



This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing....


Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs.


We have old school brokers who don't want stress...Sad To them having massive accounts is just a headache...
possunt quia posse videntur
Angelica _ann
#137 Posted : Monday, April 03, 2017 4:59:18 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,936
maka wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Chaka wrote:
I am thinking as follows:
Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange
for an agreed amount
( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker

newfarer wrote:
Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell



Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard smile smile smile



This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing....


Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs.


We have old school brokers who don't want stress...Sad To them having massive accounts is just a headache...


so @maka what will happen to Wanjiko who will want to sell before the 3 years?????
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Impunity
#138 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:31:57 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Chaka wrote:
I am thinking as follows:
Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange
for an agreed amount
( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker

newfarer wrote:
Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell



Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard smile smile smile



This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing....


Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs.


We have old school brokers who don't want stress...Sad To them having massive accounts is just a headache...


so @maka what will happen to Wanjiko who will want to sell before the 3 years?????


Kinyozi pap!

Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

maka
#139 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 9:13:55 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
maka wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Chaka wrote:
I am thinking as follows:
Wanjiku should be enabled to 'sambaza' her bond partly or wholly someone of her choice in exchange
for an agreed amount
( willing seller/willing buyer)..i,e bypass the broker

newfarer wrote:
Angie how long will it take if wanjiko wants cash against the bond, ie to sell



Who will maintain that register/registry? Brokers to be bypassed, how will they eat, think cartels. Remember Wanjiko has already been assigned brokers 'by force'/without their choice. Anyway let us wait and see .... laggard smile smile smile



This money is too small to have cartels...bonds trading is money making when you do massive volumes if i trade 100m plus and trade 20-30bPS...split 2 way...buyer and seller side one can easily take home 500k-800k on a single trade...lumping up the small small bond holders makes it stressful am sure the likes of Kestrel are not in this thing....


Nevertheless this could be a great opportunity for a creative broker. Simply put together a digital aggregator program that links with Mpesa/Airtel/CDSS and hire a few sharp fellows to do marketing. Think MFI on steroids, less the high transaction costs.


We have old school brokers who don't want stress...Sad To them having massive accounts is just a headache...


so @maka what will happen to Wanjiko who will want to sell before the 3 years?????


Kinyozi pap!



Really depends where the demand for that specific m akiba bond is...but il ask you a simple question why would I as an FM or even broker buy m akiba at 10% net when i can get an IFB paying 11 or 12 % coupon at a yield of 13.20 to 13.50?every extra basis points count towards my return at the end of the day...
possunt quia posse videntur
gatoho
#140 Posted : Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:10:27 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/1/2010
Posts: 518
Location: kandara, Murang'a
Pesa Nane wrote:
gatoho wrote:
What happens if I lose my number

Not to worry. CDS is the main thing.

Oh I was Thinking CDS wasn't required ati you just need a mpesa ac
Foresight..
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