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Why I will NOT be voting for UHURUTO in 2017
hardwood
#61 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 5:20:37 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
Drobos fly wrote:
hardwood wrote:
...............................................At the end of the day its about me and family................... It's all about us.


So all along... even your subconscious knows it's you and your family, not Uhuru, you and your family. I then really wonder why you have us all here engaged in futile, cyclic, irrelevant arguments of back and forth.

No one who succeeds in life would even dare reason like you have because that kind or reasoning and trail of thought is definitely setting you, your family and loved ones up for utter pitiful failure!

hardwood wrote:


In August I will be travelling to .Ke to specifically vote Uhuruto OUT, since this is now a very personal family matter to me. If my sis is in trouble, so am I.

Eh? Eh? Eh?


So?

FYI I've been busy dealing with the snow.....


Josey
#62 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 6:22:00 PM
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Location: Nairobi
tycho
#63 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 7:48:16 PM
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Why is our thinking so bent on re-inventing the wheel? 'Deeedeeedeeeeedeedee! http://archives.cerium.ca/IMG/pdf/BO.pdf
Coolbull
#64 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 10:29:53 PM
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Posts: 602
100K business with a return of 10K every month.

Let me work with a smaller figure just in case small siz did not have savings.

Agri-business

Crop: Cucumber
Maturity: 60-75 days
Planting to last harvest: 5 months

Lease land: 15K 1/4 Acre in Lower Kabete/Thogoto/Gikambura/Waithaka etc
Seeds: 550/= Griffaton Sachet
Labour: 3000/= (Zero if you can dig, plant, water, etc for yourself. After all you are jobless)

Other inputs: 3,000/=

Total cost: 21,550/=.

Working figure: 30,000/=


Seeds planted: 350 seeds. The extra in the packet are for replanting tose that don't germinate.

Harvest per plant: 20-30Kg

working with 300 plants, not 350 seeds.

300x20kg= 6,000 KGs of cucumber over a period of 5 months (planting to last harvest).

Selling price: 30-100/= per KG.

6000X30 = 180,000/=

180,000 less 30,000= 150,000/=

150,000/5 MONTHS= 30,000 PER MONTH.

I have worked with lower figures. A well managed cucumber crop give at least 25KG. Average price is 50/=. Current farm-gate price is 60-80/= per kg.
(Ngara Fig-tree market price is 100/= per kg.)

With a quarter acre, you can first do 1/16 acre. Two weeks after germination do the next 1/16 and so forth. You will have something to take to the market for over seven months. Low and high prices will ''find you kwa soko''.

That is just one tried and tested example.
Drobos fly
#65 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:01:36 PM
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Posts: 331
Location: Vantage point
Coolbull wrote:
100K business with a return of 10K every month.

Let me work with a smaller figure just in case small siz did not have savings.

Agri-business

Crop: Cucumber
Maturity: 60-75 days
Planting to last harvest: 5 months

Lease land: 15K 1/4 Acre in Lower Kabete/Thogoto/Gikambura/Waithaka etc
Seeds: 550/= Griffaton Sachet
Labour: 3000/= (Zero if you can dig, plant, water, etc for yourself. After all you are jobless)

Other inputs: 3,000/=

Total cost: 21,550/=.

Working figure: 30,000/=


Seeds planted: 350 seeds. The extra in the packet are for replanting tose that don't germinate.

Harvest per plant: 20-30Kg

working with 300 plants, not 350 seeds.

300x20kg= 6,000 KGs of cucumber over a period of 5 months (planting to last harvest).

Selling price: 30-100/= per KG.

6000X30 = 180,000/=

180,000 less 30,000= 150,000/=

150,000/5 MONTHS= 30,000 PER MONTH.

I have worked with lower figures. A well managed cucumber crop give at least 25KG. Average price is 50/=. Current farm-gate price is 60-80/= per kg.
(Ngara Fig-tree market price is 100/= per kg.)

With a quarter acre, you can first do 1/16 acre. Two weeks after germination do the next 1/16 and so forth. You will have something to take to the market for over seven months. Low and high prices will ''find you kwa soko''.

That is just one tried and tested example.


With this kind of a mind, you can never blame anyone for your failures. Only if this so called retrenched sister of the OP was here to see this. It would set the pace to success in life like for example go into consultancy for an organization such as the UN. I have run into many consultants there.... nkt!! having a brain and failing to utilize it is an insult to oneself.
washiku
#66 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:53:46 PM
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I have a feeling @Hardwood was doing this post to test waters. To try get a narrative to help his people counter the NASA case of unemployment. I could be right.
tycho
#67 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 3:31:43 AM
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washiku wrote:
I have a feeling @Hardwood was doing this post to test waters. To try get a narrative to help his people counter the NASA case of unemployment. I could be right.


I also think so. Good thing is whichever narrative he chooses, his camp loses.
newfarer
#68 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:22:47 AM
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Swenani
#69 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:53:02 AM
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Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,236
Location: Vacuum
Drobos fly wrote:
Coolbull wrote:
100K business with a return of 10K every month.

Let me work with a smaller figure just in case small siz did not have savings.

Agri-business

Crop: Cucumber
Maturity: 60-75 days
Planting to last harvest: 5 months

Lease land: 15K 1/4 Acre in Lower Kabete/Thogoto/Gikambura/Waithaka etc
Seeds: 550/= Griffaton Sachet
Labour: 3000/= (Zero if you can dig, plant, water, etc for yourself. After all you are jobless)

Other inputs: 3,000/=

Total cost: 21,550/=.

Working figure: 30,000/=


Seeds planted: 350 seeds. The extra in the packet are for replanting tose that don't germinate.

Harvest per plant: 20-30Kg

working with 300 plants, not 350 seeds.

300x20kg= 6,000 KGs of cucumber over a period of 5 months (planting to last harvest).

Selling price: 30-100/= per KG.

6000X30 = 180,000/=

180,000 less 30,000= 150,000/=

150,000/5 MONTHS= 30,000 PER MONTH.

I have worked with lower figures. A well managed cucumber crop give at least 25KG. Average price is 50/=. Current farm-gate price is 60-80/= per kg.
(Ngara Fig-tree market price is 100/= per kg.)

With a quarter acre, you can first do 1/16 acre. Two weeks after germination do the next 1/16 and so forth. You will have something to take to the market for over seven months. Low and high prices will ''find you kwa soko''.

That is just one tried and tested example.


With this kind of a mind, you can never blame anyone for your failures. Only if this so called retrenched sister of the OP was here to see this. It would set the pace to success in life like for example go into consultancy for an organization such as the UN. I have run into many consultants there.... nkt!! having a brain and failing to utilize it is an insult to oneself.


Did you even think before writing that?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
TSi
#70 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:16:29 PM
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Joined: 12/27/2015
Posts: 130
Swenani wrote:
Drobos fly wrote:
Coolbull wrote:
100K business with a return of 10K every month.

Let me work with a smaller figure just in case small siz did not have savings.

Agri-business

Crop: Cucumber
Maturity: 60-75 days
Planting to last harvest: 5 months

Lease land: 15K 1/4 Acre in Lower Kabete/Thogoto/Gikambura/Waithaka etc
Seeds: 550/= Griffaton Sachet
Labour: 3000/= (Zero if you can dig, plant, water, etc for yourself. After all you are jobless)

Other inputs: 3,000/=

Total cost: 21,550/=.

Working figure: 30,000/=


Seeds planted: 350 seeds. The extra in the packet are for replanting tose that don't germinate.

Harvest per plant: 20-30Kg

working with 300 plants, not 350 seeds.

300x20kg= 6,000 KGs of cucumber over a period of 5 months (planting to last harvest).

Selling price: 30-100/= per KG.

6000X30 = 180,000/=

180,000 less 30,000= 150,000/=

150,000/5 MONTHS= 30,000 PER MONTH.

I have worked with lower figures. A well managed cucumber crop give at least 25KG. Average price is 50/=. Current farm-gate price is 60-80/= per kg.
(Ngara Fig-tree market price is 100/= per kg.)

With a quarter acre, you can first do 1/16 acre. Two weeks after germination do the next 1/16 and so forth. You will have something to take to the market for over seven months. Low and high prices will ''find you kwa soko''.

That is just one tried and tested example.


With this kind of a mind, you can never blame anyone for your failures. Only if this so called retrenched sister of the OP was here to see this. It would set the pace to success in life like for example go into consultancy for an organization such as the UN. I have run into many consultants there.... nkt!! having a brain and failing to utilize it is an insult to oneself.


Did you even think before writing that?


@CoolBull
Guess what? I had tried the cucumber, egg plant and courgette (Kojetti) on an 1/8th plot and I only harvested 1 courgette/kojett n it was yellow n looked like it had skin disease. So sasa ujue u are -30k in your capital na all the while unakula na unakunywa. Haya plan B ndo nini?
Swenani
#71 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 3:51:11 PM
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Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,236
Location: Vacuum
TSi wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Drobos fly wrote:
Coolbull wrote:
100K business with a return of 10K every month.

Let me work with a smaller figure just in case small siz did not have savings.

Agri-business

Crop: Cucumber
Maturity: 60-75 days
Planting to last harvest: 5 months

Lease land: 15K 1/4 Acre in Lower Kabete/Thogoto/Gikambura/Waithaka etc
Seeds: 550/= Griffaton Sachet
Labour: 3000/= (Zero if you can dig, plant, water, etc for yourself. After all you are jobless)

Other inputs: 3,000/=

Total cost: 21,550/=.

Working figure: 30,000/=


Seeds planted: 350 seeds. The extra in the packet are for replanting tose that don't germinate.

Harvest per plant: 20-30Kg

working with 300 plants, not 350 seeds.

300x20kg= 6,000 KGs of cucumber over a period of 5 months (planting to last harvest).

Selling price: 30-100/= per KG.

6000X30 = 180,000/=

180,000 less 30,000= 150,000/=

150,000/5 MONTHS= 30,000 PER MONTH.

I have worked with lower figures. A well managed cucumber crop give at least 25KG. Average price is 50/=. Current farm-gate price is 60-80/= per kg.
(Ngara Fig-tree market price is 100/= per kg.)

With a quarter acre, you can first do 1/16 acre. Two weeks after germination do the next 1/16 and so forth. You will have something to take to the market for over seven months. Low and high prices will ''find you kwa soko''.

That is just one tried and tested example.


With this kind of a mind, you can never blame anyone for your failures. Only if this so called retrenched sister of the OP was here to see this. It would set the pace to success in life like for example go into consultancy for an organization such as the UN. I have run into many consultants there.... nkt!! having a brain and failing to utilize it is an insult to oneself.


Did you even think before writing that


@CoolBull
Guess what? I had tried the cucumber, egg plant and courgette (Kojetti) on an 1/8th plot and I only harvested 1 courgette/kojett n it was yellow n looked like it had skin disease. So sasa ujue u are -30k in your capital na all the while unakula na unakunywa. Haya plan B ndo nini?

Hata mimi nimewai panda vitunguu nikavuna pilipili......the size of those those vitungus were the same size with pilipili.

I decided to write of the costs and turn the vitunguu to manure
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Coolbull
#72 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:15:58 PM
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Joined: 10/23/2007
Posts: 602
TSi wrote:
Swenani wrote:
[quote=Drobos fly][quote=Coolbull]100K business with a return of 10K every month.



@CoolBull
Guess what? I had tried the cucumber, egg plant and courgette (Kojetti) on an 1/8th plot and I only harvested 1 courgette/kojett n it was yellow n looked like it had skin disease. So sasa ujue u are -30k in your capital na all the while unakula na unakunywa. Haya plan B ndo nini?


Pole sana. The first time I did mushroom nilichomeka yet I had a 'consultant'. When I got to do cucumber I decided to take charge of every step.

Did you ever test your soil? What kind of fertilizer/Manure did you use?

1. Tilling. Nikachukua jembe during spare time. I would make sure the digging was '3 jembes down', all weeds were cleared, etc. Don't hire people then sit to read a newspaper. Dig with them.

2. Manure application: I did it myself. Wacha nichoke.

3. Seeds. Bought licensed seeds from a licensed agrovet shop. Germinated seeds in a container before planting.

4. Pesticides: Walked with a registered guy.

5. Trellising: Visited farms and talked to horticulture guys who had gone to school.

6. Market: This is number one. Start research there. When doing projection work with the lowest return ever recorded. Make provision for near-zero harvest and near-zero sales too but always pray that all works well.

My experience: Get all the information, sift and use what is applicable to you. Avoid 'consultants' who don't have even a demo farm. Farming is farming (ukulima ni kulima).
Drobos fly
#73 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:27:42 PM
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Joined: 4/24/2012
Posts: 331
Location: Vantage point
Swenani wrote:
Drobos fly wrote:
Coolbull wrote:
100K business with a return of 10K every month.

Let me work with a smaller figure just in case small siz did not have savings.

Agri-business

Crop: Cucumber
Maturity: 60-75 days
Planting to last harvest: 5 months

Lease land: 15K 1/4 Acre in Lower Kabete/Thogoto/Gikambura/Waithaka etc
Seeds: 550/= Griffaton Sachet
Labour: 3000/= (Zero if you can dig, plant, water, etc for yourself. After all you are jobless)

Other inputs: 3,000/=

Total cost: 21,550/=.

Working figure: 30,000/=


Seeds planted: 350 seeds. The extra in the packet are for replanting tose that don't germinate.

Harvest per plant: 20-30Kg

working with 300 plants, not 350 seeds.

300x20kg= 6,000 KGs of cucumber over a period of 5 months (planting to last harvest).

Selling price: 30-100/= per KG.

6000X30 = 180,000/=

180,000 less 30,000= 150,000/=

150,000/5 MONTHS= 30,000 PER MONTH.

I have worked with lower figures. A well managed cucumber crop give at least 25KG. Average price is 50/=. Current farm-gate price is 60-80/= per kg.
(Ngara Fig-tree market price is 100/= per kg.)

With a quarter acre, you can first do 1/16 acre. Two weeks after germination do the next 1/16 and so forth. You will have something to take to the market for over seven months. Low and high prices will ''find you kwa soko''.

That is just one tried and tested example.


With this kind of a mind, you can never blame anyone for your failures. Only if this so called retrenched sister of the OP was here to see this. It would set the pace to success in life like for example go into consultancy for an organization such as the UN. I have run into many consultants there.... nkt!! having a brain and failing to utilize it is an insult to oneself.


Did you even think before writing that?


Come to UN Habitat and on your way make sure you read various individual's titles along side their names in the southern wing, then ask me that silly, hopeless question. I'm not even going to dignify your next response with an answer. This is clearly beyond your scope to grasp.
Shak
#74 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 9:39:44 PM
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tycho wrote:
washiku wrote:
I have a feeling @Hardwood was doing this post to test waters. To try get a narrative to help his people counter the NASA case of unemployment. I could be right.


I also think so. Good thing is whichever narrative he chooses, his camp loses.

Indeed. Look at the purported date of retrenchment: April Fools day and a Saturday
Swenani
#75 Posted : Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:51:42 AM
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Drobos fly wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Drobos fly wrote:
Coolbull wrote:
100K business with a return of 10K every month.

Let me work with a smaller figure just in case small siz did not have savings.

Agri-business

Crop: Cucumber
Maturity: 60-75 days
Planting to last harvest: 5 months

Lease land: 15K 1/4 Acre in Lower Kabete/Thogoto/Gikambura/Waithaka etc
Seeds: 550/= Griffaton Sachet
Labour: 3000/= (Zero if you can dig, plant, water, etc for yourself. After all you are jobless)

Other inputs: 3,000/=

Total cost: 21,550/=.

Working figure: 30,000/=


Seeds planted: 350 seeds. The extra in the packet are for replanting tose that don't germinate.

Harvest per plant: 20-30Kg

working with 300 plants, not 350 seeds.

300x20kg= 6,000 KGs of cucumber over a period of 5 months (planting to last harvest).

Selling price: 30-100/= per KG.

6000X30 = 180,000/=

180,000 less 30,000= 150,000/=

150,000/5 MONTHS= 30,000 PER MONTH.

I have worked with lower figures. A well managed cucumber crop give at least 25KG. Average price is 50/=. Current farm-gate price is 60-80/= per kg.
(Ngara Fig-tree market price is 100/= per kg.)

With a quarter acre, you can first do 1/16 acre. Two weeks after germination do the next 1/16 and so forth. You will have something to take to the market for over seven months. Low and high prices will ''find you kwa soko''.

That is just one tried and tested example.


With this kind of a mind, you can never blame anyone for your failures. Only if this so called retrenched sister of the OP was here to see this. It would set the pace to success in life like for example go into consultancy for an organization such as the UN. I have run into many consultants there.... nkt!! having a brain and failing to utilize it is an insult to oneself.


Did you even think before writing that?


Come to UN Habitat and on your way make sure you read various individual's titles along side their names in the southern wing, then ask me that silly, hopeless question. I'm not even going to dignify your next response with an answer. This is clearly beyond your scope to grasp.


You're clearly an entitled insensitive prick who works for UN, advising a jobless person to go consult for UN is stupid and ignorant.Not every Tom and Dick gets UN consultancy jobs leave alone employment. Saitan!!

I wish you acute diarrhea and hopefully, you choke on your vomitsmile smile
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Thitifini
#76 Posted : Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:24:13 PM
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Posts: 681
Location: Kenya
Swenani wrote:
Drobos fly wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Drobos fly wrote:
Coolbull wrote:
100K business with a return of 10K every month.

Let me work with a smaller figure just in case small siz did not have savings.

Agri-business

Crop: Cucumber
Maturity: 60-75 days
Planting to last harvest: 5 months

Lease land: 15K 1/4 Acre in Lower Kabete/Thogoto/Gikambura/Waithaka etc
Seeds: 550/= Griffaton Sachet
Labour: 3000/= (Zero if you can dig, plant, water, etc for yourself. After all you are jobless)

Other inputs: 3,000/=

Total cost: 21,550/=.

Working figure: 30,000/=


Seeds planted: 350 seeds. The extra in the packet are for replanting tose that don't germinate.

Harvest per plant: 20-30Kg

working with 300 plants, not 350 seeds.

300x20kg= 6,000 KGs of cucumber over a period of 5 months (planting to last harvest).

Selling price: 30-100/= per KG.

6000X30 = 180,000/=

180,000 less 30,000= 150,000/=

150,000/5 MONTHS= 30,000 PER MONTH.

I have worked with lower figures. A well managed cucumber crop give at least 25KG. Average price is 50/=. Current farm-gate price is 60-80/= per kg.
(Ngara Fig-tree market price is 100/= per kg.)

With a quarter acre, you can first do 1/16 acre. Two weeks after germination do the next 1/16 and so forth. You will have something to take to the market for over seven months. Low and high prices will ''find you kwa soko''.

That is just one tried and tested example.


With this kind of a mind, you can never blame anyone for your failures. Only if this so called retrenched sister of the OP was here to see this. It would set the pace to success in life like for example go into consultancy for an organization such as the UN. I have run into many consultants there.... nkt!! having a brain and failing to utilize it is an insult to oneself.


Did you even think before writing that?


Come to UN Habitat and on your way make sure you read various individual's titles along side their names in the southern wing, then ask me that silly, hopeless question. I'm not even going to dignify your next response with an answer. This is clearly beyond your scope to grasp.


You're clearly an entitled insensitive prick who works for UN, advising a jobless person to go consult for UN is stupid and ignorant.Not every Tom and Dick gets UN consultancy jobs leave alone employment. Saitan!!

I wish you acute diarrhea and hopefully, you choke on your vomitsmile smile


Holly Moses! I hope you have no sons who will read this one day!

60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
masukuma
#77 Posted : Saturday, April 01, 2017 9:02:01 AM
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All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
FRM2011
#78 Posted : Tuesday, April 04, 2017 11:35:58 AM
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Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459

Jogoo 2kg at 150/-, hostess @190/-. We had been promised 50/-.

Two years ago, itumbi was daring anyone whose KPLC bill hadn't reduced to contact him and get a refund.

Right now, the cost of power for the average family that uses over 200kwh is kes.18 per kWh. In 2012, it was 14/-.

We now learn that the number KMs of new roads done is not 3,000 as Ruto told us a while ago. It's not 1,950 as Uhuru told us in the sotn. KNBS puts the figure at 900km.

In the winning manifesto, IPOA was to get prosecution powers to entrench police reforms. Latest bill by Duale is to weaken IPOA further.

We could talk about fertilizer or pretty much anything Jubilee touches.

SGR. It's going to be run by the Chinese. The same guys who did a feasibility study, financed and constructed it. In their feasibility study, the lowest possible charges were as follows.

Passenger - 2,800/-
Cargo. - 120,000/- 40ft container.

Currently, truckers charge 70k-90k for a container.

Luckily, the Kenyan voter is a certified idiot with the memory of a Caterpillar.

In Mombasa, they want to re-elect joho the mountains of garbage notwithstanding.

In Nairobi, a substantial number will be voting for a nutcase who needs psychiatric​ help.

TSi
#79 Posted : Tuesday, April 04, 2017 12:30:35 PM
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The Word of the Lord says cursed is the man who puts his trust in fellow man, but there is something about Boniface Mwangi that tells me that he could be what we need in that house. My vote is not in Starehe so I will not be voting for him but if you are from Starehe just give the guy your vote. Maybe, just maybe he might deliver us from the oblivion; i say this acknowledging that I should only put my trust in the Lord.
2012
#80 Posted : Tuesday, April 04, 2017 12:55:08 PM
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TSi wrote:
The Word of the Lord says cursed is the man who puts his trust in fellow man, but there is something about Boniface Mwangi that tells me that he could be what we need in that house. My vote is not in Starehe so I will not be voting for him but if you are from Starehe just give the guy your vote. Maybe, just maybe he might deliver us from the oblivion; i say this acknowledging that I should only put my trust in the Lord.


Activists make terrible politicians. Sadly, I think Boniface is all show and not genuine. Unlike Omutata, Boniface comes across to me as an opportunist and this move had been well calculated from the start.

BBI will solve it
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