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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Wanjiko being roped into what they dont know  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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GoK desperation for money.... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2015 Posts: 233
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I think its revolutionary. It has potential to a stimulate saving culture "Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Savings that go to the government to be plundered and a few individuals to squander wont help the ordinary mwananchi and the general economy. Savings should support investments in order for the economy to benefits. my two cents from Home Science class In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Put money ukitumia kichwa yako. Personally for me I won't bother investing my hard earned cash Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 257
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This will pull in the masses. At 10% coupon they will come in droves. The timing is perfect for the govt since they need the cash. Wanjiku on the other hand is barely beating inflation. Returns need to be higher.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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snipermnoma wrote:This will pull in the masses. At 10% coupon they will come in droves. The timing is perfect for the govt since they need the cash. Wanjiku on the other hand is barely beating inflation. Returns need to be higher. 5b only.. It will be a disaster. Sema oversubscribed
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Savings that go to the government to be plundered and a few individuals to squander wont help the ordinary mwananchi and the general economy. Savings should support investments in order for the economy to benefits. my two cents from Home Science class Can I buy you a drink for that post. Very well thought
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2008 Posts: 199
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Few details, but if investors will have to pay mobile transaction charges, it will have mediocre return, regardless of tax status. http://kenyanwallstreet....ets-sh-150m-pilot-phase
Inflation overy the last 10 years has been ~10%
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2015 Posts: 233
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Wanjiku wont know that, will she? In the end even mama mboga will understand inflation, GDP, interest rates and effects of fiscal policies on her bottom line. Not to mention learn how to acquire investments. Perhaps leverage too. "Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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True they have not said about transaction charges at all... Normal mpesa paybill charges will apply... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:True they have not said about transaction charges at all... Normal mpesa paybill charges will apply.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/7/2007 Posts: 838
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maka wrote:maka wrote:True they have not said about transaction charges at all... Normal mpesa paybill charges will apply.... Isn't the 0.1% commission of sales saf and airtel are getting supposed to cover transcation costs? WHO DARES WINS
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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marko wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote:True they have not said about transaction charges at all... Normal mpesa paybill charges will apply.... Isn't the 0.1% commission of sales saf and airtel are getting supposed to cover transcation costs? Nope hizo ni zao kibinafsi... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/7/2007 Posts: 838
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maka wrote:marko wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote:True they have not said about transaction charges at all... Normal mpesa paybill charges will apply.... Isn't the 0.1% commission of sales saf and airtel are getting supposed to cover transcation costs? Nope hizo ni zao kibinafsi... Giving this thing a wide berth. WHO DARES WINS
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2014 Posts: 228 Location: Nairobi
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With a max 140K, buying and selling cabbages would surely give higher returns in a year
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 257
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obiero wrote:snipermnoma wrote:This will pull in the masses. At 10% coupon they will come in droves. The timing is perfect for the govt since they need the cash. Wanjiku on the other hand is barely beating inflation. Returns need to be higher. 5b only.. It will be a disaster. Sema oversubscribed The first tranch is Kes. 150m the remaining 4.85b later so over subscription is on the cards
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/6/2008 Posts: 199
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I found a lot of information on www.m-akiba.go.keTerms and conditions seem abridged; not so helpful. I can't seem to find the prospectus on the website nor on CBK's. If anyone does, please post but the initial issue may have been fully subscried by then. Interest is earned daily. If have preferred otherwise. But then I'm not the one selling. Secondary trading charges 0.535% They allocate you a random broker. Mobile money charges (which they claim are discounted): - Safaricom: www.m-akiba.go.ke/safaricom.pdf - Airtel: www.m-akiba.go.ke/airtel.pdf
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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 Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Savings that go to the government to be plundered and a few individuals to squander wont help the ordinary mwananchi and the general economy. Savings should support investments in order for the economy to benefits. my two cents from Home Science class What happens to savings kept in a bank account? They are lent to a few individuals to enrich themselves. Then the interests charged is shared by a few more individuals (shareholders) who also enrich themselves!
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