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AlphDoti wrote:Liv wrote:tycho wrote:Liv wrote:Nandwa wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mWX8VB18nI
Do you think our armchair militants here in wazua believe anything different from that little girl in that video? Hi Liv. This matter of Jews is so interesting and I may wish to post a few things about it. And I'd love to start by responding to your post. But I'm unable to view the video. So can you please state the girl's argument? A 3 year old girl thinks and says the Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and she hates them. One common argument that is mentioned a lot is that the Quran calls Christians and Jews apes and pigs. It is another miss-interpretation taken out of context. First of all, the Quran NEVER calls the Christians swine’s or apes. So that is the first lie. Secondly, yes the Quran called the Jews swines and apes, but was the Quran referring to them all the Jews? Of course not! That is the second lieQuran 2:63 And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you (The towering height) of Mount (Sinai): (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein: Perchance ye may fear Allah."
64 But ye turned back thereafter: Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allah to you, ye had surely been among the lost.
65 And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."
66 So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.First, you can see that these verses has nothing to do with Christians. They are referring to the JEWS. Secondly, when you read these verses, they are referring to a specific group of Jews who had sinned during the time of Moses. So they WERE MADE AN EXAMPLE. So this just happened to a specific group of Jews, who had dis-obeyed God, so God gave them this harsh punishment, and made this punishment as an example to others, who were also Jews, to learn from the wrong-doers... See a similar example in the Bible:Numbers 14:11 The LORD said to Moses, "How long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the miraculous signs I have performed among them?
12 I will strike them down with a plague and destroy them, but I will make you into a nation greater and stronger than they."
22 not one of the men who saw my glory and the miraculous signs I performed in Egypt and in the desert but who disobeyed me and tested me ten times-
23 not one of them will ever see the land I promised on oath to their forefathers. No one who has treated me with contempt will ever see it. Quran 9:30 The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
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chemirocha wrote:Ngalaka wrote:chemirocha wrote:Liv wrote:
You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.
Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require? Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues. Not true! Seriously? Just last year an IDF medic was on trial for shooting a "neutralised" assailant in the head. Netanyahu and the military were labelled traitors by the Jewish right wing groups. Link: Evidence indicates West Bank killing was extrajudicial executionAlso Unjustified use of lethal force and execution of Palestinians who stabbed or were suspected of attempted stabbings mimi sielewi, how can it be is an official government policy if the same government then jails those perpetuating the same.
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Liv wrote:chemirocha wrote:Liv wrote:
You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.
Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require? Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues.
Do you know how the walls came about? What would the Israelis do to protect themselves from daily bombs and terrorism in their cities?
Do you know the Palestinians have self rule in gaza and west bank? Where is apartheid there?
Do you know that there are Arabs in the Israeli parliament? Do you know what is apartheid?
Do you know that the Arab countries in middle east have more land , I guess more the 1000 times the size of Israel land? Why haven't they settled their Muslim brothers in Palestine there if they care!?
Who is the ignorant one here?
1. The walls are a direct result of the separation policy called 'hafrada'. Under UN and international law this qualifies as apartheid. 2. Despite token self rule, Palestine is effectively under Israeli occupation. Courtesy of the separation policy [1], Palestine has no control over its borders or its economy. 3. Israeli-Arabs face racial and religious discrimination in their own country. Access to education, land ownership and rights enjoyed by Jewish citizens is restricted. 4. Before the formation of modern day Israel, that land was historically known as Palestine. The original Jewish settlers were ironically fleeing persecution in Europe after the end of the Great War.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Liv wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Liv wrote:tycho wrote:Liv wrote:Nandwa wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mWX8VB18nI
Do you think our armchair militants here in wazua believe anything different from that little girl in that video? Hi Liv. This matter of Jews is so interesting and I may wish to post a few things about it. And I'd love to start by responding to your post. But I'm unable to view the video. So can you please state the girl's argument? A 3 year old girl thinks and says the Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and she hates them. One common argument that is mentioned a lot is that the Quran calls Christians and Jews apes and pigs. It is another miss-interpretation taken out of context. First of all, the Quran NEVER calls the Christians swine’s or apes. So that is the first lie. Secondly, yes the Quran called the Jews swines and apes, but was the Quran referring to them all the Jews? Of course not! That is the second lieQuran 2:63 And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you (The towering height) of Mount (Sinai): (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein: Perchance ye may fear Allah."
64 But ye turned back thereafter: Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allah to you, ye had surely been among the lost.
65 And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."
66 So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.First, you can see that these verses has nothing to do with Christians. They are referring to the JEWS. Secondly, when you read these verses, they are referring to a specific group of Jews who had sinned during the time of Moses. So they WERE MADE AN EXAMPLE. So this just happened to a specific group of Jews, who had dis-obeyed God, so God gave them this harsh punishment, and made this punishment as an example to others, who were also Jews, to learn from the wrong-doers... See a similar example in the Bible:Numbers 14:11 The LORD said to Moses, "How long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the miraculous signs I have performed among them?
12 I will strike them down with a plague and destroy them, but I will make you into a nation greater and stronger than they."
22 not one of the men who saw my glory and the miraculous signs I performed in Egypt and in the desert but who disobeyed me and tested me ten times-
23 not one of them will ever see the land I promised on oath to their forefathers. No one who has treated me with contempt will ever see it. Quran 9:30 The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? Psalm 37:38 "But transgressors will be altogether destroyed; The posterity of the wicked will be cut off." Jeremiah 51:55 For the LORD is going to destroy Babylon, And He will make her loud noise vanish from her. 1 Corinthians 10:9-10 "Nor let us try the Lord, as some of them did, and were destroyed by the serpents" Hosea 10:8 Also the high places of Aven, the sin of Israel, will be destroyed; Thorn and thistle will grow on their altars; Then they will say to the mountains, "Cover us!" And to the hills, "Fall on us!"
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AlphDoti wrote:Liv wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Liv wrote:tycho wrote:Liv wrote:Nandwa wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mWX8VB18nI
Do you think our armchair militants here in wazua believe anything different from that little girl in that video? Hi Liv. This matter of Jews is so interesting and I may wish to post a few things about it. And I'd love to start by responding to your post. But I'm unable to view the video. So can you please state the girl's argument? A 3 year old girl thinks and says the Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and she hates them. One common argument that is mentioned a lot is that the Quran calls Christians and Jews apes and pigs. It is another miss-interpretation taken out of context. First of all, the Quran NEVER calls the Christians swine’s or apes. So that is the first lie. Secondly, yes the Quran called the Jews swines and apes, but was the Quran referring to them all the Jews? Of course not! That is the second lieQuran 2:63 And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you (The towering height) of Mount (Sinai): (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein: Perchance ye may fear Allah."
64 But ye turned back thereafter: Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allah to you, ye had surely been among the lost.
65 And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."
66 So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.First, you can see that these verses has nothing to do with Christians. They are referring to the JEWS. Secondly, when you read these verses, they are referring to a specific group of Jews who had sinned during the time of Moses. So they WERE MADE AN EXAMPLE. So this just happened to a specific group of Jews, who had dis-obeyed God, so God gave them this harsh punishment, and made this punishment as an example to others, who were also Jews, to learn from the wrong-doers... See a similar example in the Bible:Numbers 14:11 The LORD said to Moses, "How long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the miraculous signs I have performed among them?
12 I will strike them down with a plague and destroy them, but I will make you into a nation greater and stronger than they."
22 not one of the men who saw my glory and the miraculous signs I performed in Egypt and in the desert but who disobeyed me and tested me ten times-
23 not one of them will ever see the land I promised on oath to their forefathers. No one who has treated me with contempt will ever see it. Quran 9:30 The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? Psalm 37:38 "But transgressors will be altogether destroyed; The posterity of the wicked will be cut off." Jeremiah 51:55 For the LORD is going to destroy Babylon, And He will make her loud noise vanish from her. 1 Corinthians 10:9-10 "Nor let us try the Lord, as some of them did, and were destroyed by the serpents" Hosea 10:8 Also the high places of Aven, the sin of Israel, will be destroyed; Thorn and thistle will grow on their altars; Then they will say to the mountains, "Cover us!" And to the hills, "Fall on us!"
The Quran, explicitly says that Jews and Christians must be destroyed for what they believe. Before you destroy other people you first dehumanise them. In Rwanda they called them cockroaches, in Kenya they called them hyenas and madoadoa... in the arab and militant Muslim world they call Christians and Jews .... Pigs and apes. When you kill animals you can't feel guilty.
Why are Christians to be destroyed? Because they believe that Christ, the Messiah is the son of God. That is written in Quran 9:30. That's what the Muslim terror groups believe.
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How do you get the fanatics, drunk with dogma to see sense. Firmness, then they climb down.Quote:"The so-called peaceful situations are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing any part of the Palestine means renouncing part of the religion [...]. There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by jihad." Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Liv wrote:chemirocha wrote:Ngalaka wrote:chemirocha wrote:Liv wrote:
You want to tell us that it's the Israelis that have killed these children? Can you provide more details and evidence, how and where they were killed?
We know who kills women and children without caring.... They do it through terrorists bombs. And when they they want sympathy from the world they launch their missiles from schools and hospitals so that any retaliation can have the school children and patients killed ....in order to raise the hatred.
Hafrada; the Hebrew term for the Israeli apartheid programme, is an official government policy. The separation walls, annexation of Palestine lands and IDF soldiers shooting unarmed kids are acknowledged and sanctioned by the Israeli state. What other evidence do you require? Kindly don't argue from a point of ignorance on global issues. Not true! Seriously? Just last year an IDF medic was on trial for shooting a "neutralised" assailant in the head. Netanyahu and the military were labelled traitors by the Jewish right wing groups. Link: Evidence indicates West Bank killing was extrajudicial executionAlso Unjustified use of lethal force and execution of Palestinians who stabbed or were suspected of attempted stabbings
Surely you already confirm there is a legal self governed system in Israel that prevents such atrocities against innocent people....unlike the Palestinians and those militant Muslims who believe in killing everyone.
Yes. They just prey on the transparency and openness of others to divert attention from their own evilness. As if they are holy angels. They are worse.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Liv wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Liv wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Liv wrote:tycho wrote:Liv wrote:Nandwa wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mWX8VB18nI
Do you think our armchair militants here in wazua believe anything different from that little girl in that video? Hi Liv. This matter of Jews is so interesting and I may wish to post a few things about it. And I'd love to start by responding to your post. But I'm unable to view the video. So can you please state the girl's argument? A 3 year old girl thinks and says the Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and she hates them. One common argument that is mentioned a lot is that the Quran calls Christians and Jews apes and pigs. It is another miss-interpretation taken out of context. First of all, the Quran NEVER calls the Christians swine’s or apes. So that is the first lie. Secondly, yes the Quran called the Jews swines and apes, but was the Quran referring to them all the Jews? Of course not! That is the second lieQuran 2:63 And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you (The towering height) of Mount (Sinai): (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein: Perchance ye may fear Allah."
64 But ye turned back thereafter: Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allah to you, ye had surely been among the lost.
65 And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."
66 So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.First, you can see that these verses has nothing to do with Christians. They are referring to the JEWS. Secondly, when you read these verses, they are referring to a specific group of Jews who had sinned during the time of Moses. So they WERE MADE AN EXAMPLE. So this just happened to a specific group of Jews, who had dis-obeyed God, so God gave them this harsh punishment, and made this punishment as an example to others, who were also Jews, to learn from the wrong-doers... See a similar example in the Bible:Numbers 14:11 The LORD said to Moses, "How long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the miraculous signs I have performed among them?
12 I will strike them down with a plague and destroy them, but I will make you into a nation greater and stronger than they."
22 not one of the men who saw my glory and the miraculous signs I performed in Egypt and in the desert but who disobeyed me and tested me ten times-
23 not one of them will ever see the land I promised on oath to their forefathers. No one who has treated me with contempt will ever see it. Quran 9:30 The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? Psalm 37:38 "But transgressors will be altogether destroyed; The posterity of the wicked will be cut off." Jeremiah 51:55 For the LORD is going to destroy Babylon, And He will make her loud noise vanish from her. 1 Corinthians 10:9-10 "Nor let us try the Lord, as some of them did, and were destroyed by the serpents" Hosea 10:8 Also the high places of Aven, the sin of Israel, will be destroyed; Thorn and thistle will grow on their altars; Then they will say to the mountains, "Cover us!" And to the hills, "Fall on us!"
The Quran, explicitly says that Jews and Christians must be destroyed for what they believe. Before you destroy other people you first dehumanise them. In Rwanda they called them cockroaches, in Kenya they called them hyenas and madoadoa... in the arab and militant Muslim world they call Christians and Jews .... Pigs and apes. When you kill animals you can't feel guilty.
Why are Christians to be destroyed? Because they believe that Christ, the Messiah is the son of God. That is written in Quran 9:30. That's what the Muslim terror groups believe. This is what is written in Quran 9:30: " The Jews call ´Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!So bro @liv, read properly. Taking men for gods or sons of God was not a new thing. The verses in Bible i quoted above have tales of that kind. In the Bible, there was less excuse for such blasphemies... Quran 5:75 says: Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@liv you display alot of ignorance when it comes to matters of religion. See tales about curses in the Bible:
Deuteronomy 28:15-68
15 But if you will not obey the Lord your God by diligently observing all his commandments and decrees, which I am commanding you today, then all these curses shall come upon you and overtake you:
16 Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the field.
17 Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.
18 Cursed shall be the fruit of your womb, the fruit of your ground, the increase of your cattle and the issue of your flock.
19 Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out.
20 The Lord will send upon you disaster, panic, and frustration in everything you attempt to do, until you are destroyed and perish quickly, on account of the evil of your deeds, because you have forsaken me.
Jeremiah 48:10 "Cursed be the one who does the LORD'S work negligently, And cursed be the one who restrains his sword from blood.
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