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#581 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 1:16:47 PM
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It is good for us to keep alive Kiswahili. The methalis therein are more local and relevant and are educative.

Anyway, first, not all doctors are evil. KMPDU were obviously misled led by Mr. Ouma and his friends that they could achieve what they wanted in that manner. Those doctors who feel differently from his stance should now seek reorganization and throw out the rascals for having captained that formidable organisation into such a disaster.
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#582 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 1:40:52 PM
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sheri wrote:
I want to twist the doctors debate abit and point to the fact that, Kenyans in real sense should be debating on reversing the salaries of government officials and leaders downwards. Otherwise things are bad. Many companies are unable to sustain their wage bill because of the current economic situation. Everybody now want to work for the government because the pay is good. The private sector where am is staring at a lock down. Just a simple question what is the entry point of a fresh graduate. Is it possible for a fresh graduate to start earning 150k and above.I believe it is a high time Kenyans start this debate



Those up there never want to help those still down. The high earners would never have accepted new comers be they doctors or whoever who tried to join them up there especially from down here. The best the rest of down earners can do is to pull them high earners down ruthlessly. The challenge is to find the sweet spot where if toggled the high earners will tumble down.

High moral ground, morality, ethics etc will not cut it here. Crab mentality also has it's advantages.
Ngalaka
#583 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 2:04:08 PM
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We are so parochial at times.

Instead of focusing on the larger picture – the integrity and soundness of our Health system we are bogged down with – our guy won - hurray.

If an amicable resolution was at hand, but then some primal urge to show who is boss prevailed instead, then we have a problem.

How comfortable are we with the situation we find ourselves in right now. If some Doctors have been arm-twisted back to hospital, how do we expect them to perform with a feeling of subjugation – or perhaps performance doesn’t matter as long as we can proclaim that our hospitals are open.

Obviously not all Doctors will go back to work, so we still have to plug the shortfall – Cubans still need to come to the rescue.

Someone tell me if the Government will now stop subsidising the training of Doctors in this new scheme of things.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
hardwood
#584 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 2:30:08 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
We are so parochial at times.

Instead of focusing on the larger picture – the integrity and soundness of our Health system we are bogged down with – our guy won - hurray.

If an amicable resolution was at hand, but then some primal urge to show who is boss prevailed instead, then we have a problem.

How comfortable are we with the situation we find ourselves in right now. If some Doctors have been arm-twisted back to hospital, how do we expect them to perform with a feeling of subjugation – or perhaps performance doesn’t matter as long as we can proclaim that our hospitals are open.

Obviously not all Doctors will go back to work, so we still have to plug the shortfall – Cubans still need to come to the rescue.

Someone tell me if the Government will now stop subsidising the training of Doctors in this new scheme of things.


The larger picture is that wanjiku cannot afford to pay doctors 1m each per month. Wanjiko sacrificed and gave doctors a 50% pay rise and backdated the same to 2016 but the spoilt doctors refused. Munataka wanjiko afanye nini???? wanjiko cant be paying one category of employees 1m while the other employees with similar level of training/education are paid 90k. Even you in your house you cant be paying your house girl 100k while paying your shamba boy 9k.
hardwood
#585 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 2:55:01 PM
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hardwood
#586 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 2:59:10 PM
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#587 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 3:04:05 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
We are so parochial at times.

Instead of focusing on the larger picture – the integrity and soundness of our Health system we are bogged down with – our guy won - hurray.

If an amicable resolution was at hand, but then some primal urge to show who is boss prevailed instead, then we have a problem.

How comfortable are we with the situation we find ourselves in right now. If some Doctors have been arm-twisted back to hospital, how do we expect them to perform with a feeling of subjugation – or perhaps performance doesn’t matter as long as we can proclaim that our hospitals are open.

Obviously not all Doctors will go back to work, so we still have to plug the shortfall – Cubans still need to come to the rescue.

Someone tell me if the Government will now stop subsidising the training of Doctors in this new scheme of things.


Hapana, speak about parochialism for yourself, brother. You cannot say doctors have a feeling of subjugation as if that is the axiom. No. How do you know that many are not anxious to resume duty and to do their passion up to where their ability reaches?

By the way, do you think it is true that if a doctor is not working in a public hospital then he / she is not working at all?

You just want this thing to drag on and on and on. As if you are just the one to tell Dr. X somewhere within Kenya just the thing he needs and must get or else ..... Give them doctors credit where it is due.
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#588 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 3:07:59 PM
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hardwood wrote:



Hardwood, why is the twitterer playing the emotions card? Do you know?
mpobiz
#589 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 10:43:18 PM
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Rudini kazi .. Chindwe saitan
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
alma1
#590 Posted : Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:21:36 PM
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So now the true story about what happened in these "negotiations" begins to emerge

really shameful stuff.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

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