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Unga HY 2016-2017 over 59% drop in profits
VituVingiSana
#1 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 9:35:43 AM
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Lower 1H 2016/17 (vs 2015-16) profits. Sad Sad Sad d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Huge drop in Operating Profit from 492mn to 173mn.

The increase in maize prices and reduced volumes has severely affected Unga's maize and animal feeds.
Nakumatt's problems have seeped through with late payments.
Ennsvalley store closings and late payments have hurt the business.

2H expected to be better.

I am disappointed but remain confident that easing of the drought, maize imports and new projects will benefit Unga going forward.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
heri
#2 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 10:40:14 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Lower 1H 2016/17 (vs 2015-16) profits. Sad Sad Sad d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Huge drop in Operating Profit from 492mn to 173mn.

The increase in maize prices and reduced volumes has severely affected Unga's maize and animal feeds.
Nakumatt's problems have seeped through with late payments.
Ennsvalley store closings and late payments have hurt the business.

2H expected to be better.

I am disappointed but remain confident that easing of the drought, maize imports and new projects will benefit Unga going forward.


Price should drop to 15 going by these results
Pesa Nane
#3 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 12:09:40 PM
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#4 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 12:13:22 PM
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Chaka
#5 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 12:51:21 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
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Forgive my ignorance..what does the depreciation of the KES and UGX got to do with profit?Does the Co. have a forex loan or do they import inputs?
karasinga
#6 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 3:04:30 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
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Charts don't lie. check prior analysis here before the" news". I think the time has come for us to combine both tech analysis and fundamentals.
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obiero
#7 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 3:16:00 PM
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Unga Limited has already reached June 2017 as per their profit warning.. If a company cannot afford to spellcheck then can we really expect a profit

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snipermnoma
#8 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 3:59:39 PM
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obiero wrote:
Unga Limited has already reached June 2017 as per their profit warning.. If a company cannot afford to spellcheck then can we really expect a profit


Help me understand what you mean. The way I read this I see no need for spell check. They expect PBT for th ecurrent financial year which ends in June 2017 will be at least 25% lower than the previous year ending June 2016. To me it makes sense...what am I missing?
sparkly
#9 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 4:02:03 PM
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obiero wrote:
Unga Limited has already reached June 2017 as per their profit warning.. If a company cannot afford to spellcheck then can we really expect a profit


You are the one who is slowEh?
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obiero
#10 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 4:46:43 PM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Unga Limited has already reached June 2017 as per their profit warning.. If a company cannot afford to spellcheck then can we really expect a profit


You are the one who is slowEh?

Hehe

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obiero
#11 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 4:51:47 PM
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snipermnoma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Unga Limited has already reached June 2017 as per their profit warning.. If a company cannot afford to spellcheck then can we really expect a profit


Help me understand what you mean. The way I read this I see no need for spell check. They expect PBT for th ecurrent financial year which ends in June 2017 will be at least 25% lower than the previous year ending June 2016. To me it makes sense...what am I missing?

Gai. Pole

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VituVingiSana
#12 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 6:25:18 PM
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obiero wrote:
Unga Limited has already reached June 2017 as per their profit warning.. If a company cannot afford to spellcheck then can we really expect a profit

Unlike some bandia firms, Unga is telling shareholders that it will have a poor year 4 months before the year end. Bandia firms tell you that just before year end results are released.

I appreciate the honesty.
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VituVingiSana
#13 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 6:29:54 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Sad Sad



Forgive my ignorance..what does the depreciation of the KES and UGX got to do with profit?Does the Co. have a forex loan or do they import inputs?

Yes.
Wheat is imported.
The new wheat mill was also imported using forex loans.
The silos installed in Eldoret were also imported.
The refurbishment of silos in Nairobi use imported materials.

UGX has depreciated vs KES.
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Spikes
#14 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 6:30:31 PM
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karasinga wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Sad Sad



Charts don't lie. check prior analysis here before the" news". I think the time has come for us to combine both tech analysis and fundamentals.
best wishes

Absolutely!
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#15 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 7:50:00 PM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Unga Limited has already reached June 2017 as per their profit warning.. If a company cannot afford to spellcheck then can we really expect a profit


You are the one who is slowEh?

Hehe

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#16 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 10:28:20 PM
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karasinga wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Sad Sad



Charts don't lie. check prior analysis here before the" news". I think the time has come for us to combine both tech analysis and fundamentals.
best wishes


difficult to understand the charts!
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Ebenyo
#17 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:03:02 PM
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Some of the raw materials could be sourced
locally.This will help bring down operation cost.
I hope that seaboard corporation does not wish
the situation to remain like this just because they
benefit from supply of some of the raw materials.
Operation costs consumed 98% of the hy earnings
i.e out of the total hy income of kshs 10,295,142000 operation costs consumed kshs 10,073,920.This left a profit margin of 1%.This must improve going forward for the company to be healthy.
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VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:36:36 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Some of the raw materials could be sourced
locally.This will help bring down operation cost.
I hope that seaboard corporation does not wish
the situation to remain like this just because they
benefit from supply of some of the raw materials.
Operation costs consumed 98% of the hy earnings
i.e out of the total hy income of kshs 10,295,142000 operation costs consumed kshs 10,073,920.This left a profit margin of 1%.This must improve going forward for the company to be healthy.

Wheat - Very little is grown locally vs (growing) demand. Plus local wheat tends to be pricier than imports.
Maize - You know the story. Local production < Demand
Soybeans - Same as wheat. Most local soybeans are of poor quality. Cheaper to import from India.

Seaboard supplies raw materials but Unga says they get a good deal coz of Seaboard's buying power as well as good credit terms.

Yes, those margins are low but there isn't much pricing power for a politically sensitive FMCG.
2016-17 will be awful with the drought, elections, high interest costs and broke retailers e.g. Nakumatt, Uchumi, etc. Ennsvalley has closed stores (in Nakumatt) and there may be write-offs of fixtures & equipment plus costs of layoffs.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#19 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 6:49:34 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Some of the raw materials could be sourced
locally.This will help bring down operation cost.
I hope that seaboard corporation does not wish
the situation to remain like this just because they
benefit from supply of some of the raw materials.
Operation costs consumed 98% of the hy earnings
i.e out of the total hy income of kshs 10,295,142000 operation costs consumed kshs 10,073,920.This left a profit margin of 1%.This must improve going forward for the company to be healthy.

Wheat - Very little is grown locally vs (growing) demand. Plus local wheat tends to be pricier than imports.
Maize - You know the story. Local production < Demand
Soybeans - Same as wheat. Most local soybeans are of poor quality. Cheaper to import from India.

Seaboard supplies raw materials but Unga says they get a good deal coz of Seaboard's buying power as well as good credit terms.

Yes, those margins are low but there isn't much pricing power for a politically sensitive FMCG.
2016-17 will be awful with the drought, elections, high interest costs and broke retailers e.g. Nakumatt, Uchumi, etc. Ennsvalley has closed stores (in Nakumatt) and there may be write-offs of fixtures & equipment plus costs of layoffs.

@vvs @guru used to worship this share

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Spikes
#20 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:17:21 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Some of the raw materials could be sourced
locally.This will help bring down operation cost.
I hope that seaboard corporation does not wish
the situation to remain like this just because they
benefit from supply of some of the raw materials.
Operation costs consumed 98% of the hy earnings
i.e out of the total hy income of kshs 10,295,142000 operation costs consumed kshs 10,073,920.This left a profit margin of 1%.This must improve going forward for the company to be healthy.

Wheat - Very little is grown locally vs (growing) demand. Plus local wheat tends to be pricier than imports.
Maize - You know the story. Local production < Demand
Soybeans - Same as wheat. Most local soybeans are of poor quality. Cheaper to import from India.

Seaboard supplies raw materials but Unga says they get a good deal coz of Seaboard's buying power as well as good credit terms.

Yes, those margins are low but there isn't much pricing power for a politically sensitive FMCG.
2016-17 will be awful with the drought, elections, high interest costs and broke retailers e.g. Nakumatt, Uchumi, etc. Ennsvalley has closed stores (in Nakumatt) and there may be write-offs of fixtures & equipment plus costs of layoffs.

@vvs @guru used to worship this share

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