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Drobos fly wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Drobos fly wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Drobos fly wrote:AlphDoti wrote:With these powerful weapons they are receiving from Uncle sam, their assault on the Middle East countries will continue... Inch by inch expanding their territory until where their Torah is saying: from River Euphrates until river of Egypt...
When eventually Israel rules the world, the Jews will be convinced that the golden age has come back... Then when it has ruled the world, the dajjal (Christian call him the Anti Christ) will come out and claim the messiah title... The Jews, who rejected the true Messiah Jesus Christ the son of Mary, will now say "this is the messiah" (not realizing that this the FALSE MESSIAH). They will be deceived big time for the second time, first time when they rejected true Messiah and tried to kill him...
Then the water in the sea of Galilee will dry up... Then the Imam Mahdi will emerge... Then Dajjal attacks... the confrontation will take place in Damascus...The dajjal will be outside, the Imam will be inside leading a prayer... When Dajjal is ready for the kill, as Pharaoh was ready for the kill when he had Musa and children of Israel cornered, in front is the sea and he just was to move in... The Jews will be having the Imam cornered. Then HISTORY will repeat itself... At that time God Almighty will intervene, remember He told Musa to strike the water, Divine intervention...
And this time what happens? The son of Mary comes down at that moment with his hands resting on the wings of two angels! Divine intervention... The true Messiah will now kill the FALSE MESSIAH!
Porridge stuff for you. This is coming... Is the Dome of the rock on Temple Mount still standing to date or has it been brought down yet? Good question bro @drobos... Let me give some historical background, then what will likely to happen afterwards. The Temple Mount was built first by King Solomon as per the Bible for the Jews around 1000B.C. Then when Nebuchadnezzar was the king of Babylon 400 years later, he commanded his troops to destroy it, and in the process sent many Jews into exile. Then several years later, some Jews returned from their banishment and built a Second Temple, which was taken over by Herod who expanded and refurbished it. Also during Roman rule, another general Titus attacked Jewish rebels and in the process burnt the Temple down in 70A.D So in short, this territory around Temple Mount has been occupied and conquered by a long succession of peoples: Jebusi, Jews, Babylon, Greek, Persian, Romans, Byzantines, early Muslims, Christian Crusaders, Ottoman and British... And as for the Muslims, the Temple Mount is referred to as Haram al-Sharif, a walled compound which houses Al-Aqsa Mosque within the Old City of Jerusalem. It has religious significance...  That is really quite an expo BUT my question still is unanswered. What I know 1000% for sure is that the blue prints for the 3rd temple are complete and ready to implement. Their physical address is squarely on Temple Mount, which means whatever is there must be cleared. My question was addressing whether that Dome is still standing or preparations are under way to knock it down soon? @drobos, I said I'm coming to your question. Yes, you are 101% right!! Remember twice before, the Jews have been banished from the holy land. And for the 3rd time now, the objective of the Jews is to return back to the Holy Land and reclaim it as their own, which is already done. Next is the restoration of the State of Israel, which is now done, way back in 1948. Then, they will expand that state to cover the whole territory of the holy land, I posted about that here Then the Temple of Solomon, i.e. the Temple Mount would be rebuilt. That means Israel would destroy the Masjid al-Aqsa in order to rebuild the temple. That is why I told you, a new super power will come soon, i.e. State of Israel. And that is why you see plans to move the capital to Jerusalem. This is where the world will be ruled from next. Then, as I said here, someone will stand up and declare himself the Messiah... But he will not be true Messiah, he will be the FALSE MESSIAH. Unfortunately, the Jews will accept him as the long awaited Messiah.... That would be the reign of the Anti Christ, i.e. the FALSE MESSIAH. The details you have are interesting but I'm sure some here see you as very looney, I can already see it in some of their responses to you. You are diplomatic. Another 'diplomat' here called it fermented porridge. I call it unhealthy obsession with conspiracies. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@nandwa, if you have a question ask. If you have anything to say regarding the subject matter say it, otherwise, go listen to something else, no one has held a gun in your head to open this thread.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/24/2007 Posts: 1,805
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Greetings Alpha, are you saying that JESUS son of Mary is THE MESSIAH? I Think Therefore I Am
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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bwenyenye wrote:Greetings Alpha, are you saying that JESUS son of Mary is THE MESSIAH? @bwenyenye, greetings. Oh yes! Jesus the son of Mary was the TRUE MESSIAH! Translated Christ (Christos) in Greek from the Hebrew. Messiah in Arabic is Masih. BUT UNFORTUNATELY! The Jews did not believe in him (Jesus Christ), they denied him... so they (Jews aka Israelites) are still waiting for the messiah to come... too bad they will fall for the false one! More details below: "But the Messiah said, ‘O Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord.’" (Quran 5:72) "The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a messenger; messengers before him had indeed passed away." (Quran 5:75) “O People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say anything concerning Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers...” (Quran 4:171;
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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if I understand Islam properly - MESSIAH (chosen one, liberator e.t.c.) is not the same as SON OF GOD! sio? They dispute the 'divinity' of Christ not his existence or relevance. They actually believe he will come again and that there is an "anti-Christ" i.e. anti Messiah! shida huanza mahali Christians worship Jesus and attribute divinity to him... sio @alph? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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masukuma wrote:if I understand Islam properly - MESSIAH (chosen one, liberator e.t.c.) is not the same as SON OF GOD! sio? They dispute the 'divinity' of Christ not his existence or relevance. They actually believe he will come again and that there is an "anti-Christ" i.e. anti Messiah! shida huanza mahali Christians worship Jesus and attribute divinity to him... sio @alph? while yo await that answer with all the attendant porridge  let me observe as follows; Judaism, the Jewish religion views Jesus not as a Mesiah. Muslims view Jesus as a prophet, but tend to put more emphasis on another prophet of theirs - Mohamed. Christians on the other hand view Jesus as not only a Mesiah but also as a Son of God - instructively a part of Godship - the trinity. In other words all three have different views of Jesus. So who has the authority to criticise who. Why would any of them abrogate the truth to themselves. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:if I understand Islam properly - MESSIAH (chosen one, liberator e.t.c.) is not the same as SON OF GOD! sio? They dispute the 'divinity' of Christ not his existence or relevance. They actually believe he will come again and that there is an "anti-Christ" i.e. anti Messiah! shida huanza mahali Christians worship Jesus and attribute divinity to him... sio @alph? Yes @mavegs... You're almost right. You see, both Muslims and Christians love and respect Jesus (pbuh). The major difference between Islam and Christianity is where Christians supposed attribute divinity to Jesus Christ (pbuh). As for the Jews (Israelite), they do not recognize Jesus Christ as the messiah until today. They claim that the Messiah is yet to come, unfortunately they will fall for the false messiah... they will miss him the second time on his second return... IMPORTANT: This is how the real Israel getting Isolated will happen!!. When true Christians and Muslims come together under leadership of Jesus Christ pbuh
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Nandwa wrote:masukuma wrote:if I understand Islam properly - MESSIAH (chosen one, liberator e.t.c.) is not the same as SON OF GOD! sio? They dispute the 'divinity' of Christ not his existence or relevance. They actually believe he will come again and that there is an "anti-Christ" i.e. anti Messiah! shida huanza mahali Christians worship Jesus and attribute divinity to him... sio @alph? while yo await that answer with all the attendant porridge let me observe as follows; Judaism, the Jewish religion views Jesus not as a Mesiah. Muslims view Jesus as a prophet, but tend to put more ephasis on another prophet of theirs - Mohamed. Christians on the other hand view Jesus as not only a Mesiah but also as a Son of God - instructively a part of Godship - the trinity. In other words all three have different views of Jesus. So who has the authority to criticise who. Why would any of them abrogate the truth to themselves. @nandwa, we have discussed this at length a thousand times here in Wazua. Click here and see if you have anything more to add... Let us leave this thread for subject matter.You can open discussion in the other thread called " Other religious discourse"
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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The way the Netanyahu regime has gone about handling the Palestine people and their rights is obectionable. This thread has endeavored to highlight that issue and the way the larger world community is pointing its finger at Netanyahu regime. But the question of what the Jewish community believe and whether or not they are right is a different matter altogether. That issue delves into the realm of religion and the inherent controversies. Remember Christianity teaches that Jews are a favoured children of God. It follows hence that God will not forsake his favoured children. That's why you rarely hear Christians in general taking issues with Jews. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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AlphDoti wrote:Nandwa wrote:masukuma wrote:if I understand Islam properly - MESSIAH (chosen one, liberator e.t.c.) is not the same as SON OF GOD! sio? They dispute the 'divinity' of Christ not his existence or relevance. They actually believe he will come again and that there is an "anti-Christ" i.e. anti Messiah! shida huanza mahali Christians worship Jesus and attribute divinity to him... sio @alph? while yo await that answer with all the attendant porridge let me observe as follows; Judaism, the Jewish religion views Jesus not as a Mesiah. Muslims view Jesus as a prophet, but tend to put more ephasis on another prophet of theirs - Mohamed. Christians on the other hand view Jesus as not only a Mesiah but also as a Son of God - instructively a part of Godship - the trinity. In other words all three have different views of Jesus. So who has the authority to criticise who. Why would any of them abrogate the truth to themselves. @nandwa, we have discussed this at length a thousand times here in Wazua. Click here and see if you have anything more to add... Let us leave this thread for subject matter.You can open discussion in the other thread called " Other religious discourse" Well, is it not you who introduced diversionary issues of 'dajjal', 'mahdi' false prophet to mislead Jews, and other porridge stuff! If and when you introduce such, expect to be challenged and truth restored. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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