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Future of Safaricom - break up due to dominance!
Ericsson
#81 Posted : Sunday, January 22, 2017 6:36:17 PM
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In the period July 1 to September 2016
Safaricom added 669,594 subscribers
Equitel added 268,594
Airtel added 178,840
Orange lost 2.3mn subscribers after realignment of reporting to the regulatory requirement
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VituVingiSana
#82 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2017 2:31:00 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
In the period July 1 to September 2016
Safaricom added 669,594 subscribers
Equitel added 268,594
Airtel added 178,840
Orange lost 2.3mn subscribers after realignment of reporting to the regulatory requirement

So how many real customers do the rest have?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#83 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2017 2:35:58 PM
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BTW, where's @murchr? Did he get lost trying to digress?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#84 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2017 2:38:51 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
In the period July 1 to September 2016
Safaricom added 669,594 subscribers
Equitel added 268,594
Airtel added 178,840
Orange lost 2.3mn subscribers after realignment of reporting to the regulatory requirement

So how many real customers do the rest have?

According to CAK the rest have no issues with the regulatory requirement
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#85 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2017 2:40:37 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
In the period July 1 to September 2016
Safaricom added 669,594 subscribers
Equitel added 268,594
Airtel added 178,840
Orange lost 2.3mn subscribers after realignment of reporting to the regulatory requirement

So how many real customers do the rest have?


Safaricom---26.6mn customers
Airtel-----6.7mn
Telkom Kenya--2.9mn
Equitel----2.2mn
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
watesh
#86 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:59:53 PM
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The report is back....i think they want to cripple Safaricom and have another company take a huge chunk of the market share.
They recommend Mpesa to be a different company by just having different offices and staff. This increases the costs of business. I dont even see the importance of this.

http://www.businessdaily...24418-rhmnfdz/index.html
murchr
#87 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 3:49:39 AM
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watesh wrote:
The report is back....i think they want to cripple Safaricom and have another company take a huge chunk of the market share.
They recommend Mpesa to be a different company by just having different offices and staff. This increases the costs of business. I dont even see the importance of this.

http://www.businessdaily...4418-rhmnfdz/index.html



That was very easy money for Anasysys Mason

What does this mean Laughing out loudly

Quote:
Although it has not accused Safaricom of abuse of dominance, it notes that preferential treatment given to Safaricom partners such as the Commercial Bank of Africa (CBA) and the Kenya Commercial Bank (KCB) could be deemed uncompetitive.


I thought almost all banks are connected to MPESA?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tafutabiz
#88 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 8:43:23 AM
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Government is in the business of consumer protection. The advent of liberalization brought about capitalism in provision of important services search us communication, energy etc, it is the government's responsibility to ensure universality in communication and hence must put policies that project this agenda. Market dominance leads to anti-competitive behavior and the consumer must be protected.
majimaji
#89 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 9:00:30 AM
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Safaricom is bigger than government.
watesh
#90 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 9:50:21 AM
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tafutabiz wrote:
Government is in the business of consumer protection. The advent of liberalization brought about capitalism in provision of important services search us communication, energy etc, it is the government's responsibility to ensure universality in communication and hence must put policies that project this agenda. Market dominance leads to anti-competitive behavior and the consumer must be protected.

But the govt should not start punishing success & innovation (Ksh30bn a year capital expenditure is nothing small). They all have had an equal playing field since the start. Now the lazy one (AIRTEL!!!!) wants to be given a free customers and revenue without bringing anything to the table. They have a huge financial backing from the parent company so rolling out infrastructure should be soooooo easy.
Airtel should work for its share of the pie like Equitel has done, not complain that Safaricom should be restricted in all directions so that it can take over its customers
FRM2011
#91 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 10:07:26 AM
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Sometimes you hear things that almost bring tears to your eyes.

Safaricom is big ?? Compared to who ? The dinosaurs at Airtel and orange ?

In Africa, safcom is nowhere near the telcos in the big boys club. MTN, Glomobile, Orascom....

I think Kenyans have become so accustomed to mediocrity that a thriving business is seen as abnormal and needs to be brought down.
2012
#92 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 10:08:50 AM
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watesh wrote:
The report is back....i think they want to cripple Safaricom and have another company take a huge chunk of the market share.
They recommend Mpesa to be a different company by just having different offices and staff. This increases the costs of business. I dont even see the importance of this.

http://www.businessdaily...4418-rhmnfdz/index.html


I don't understand. These are two different services but interlinked. The other mobile operators offer the same services but customers choose not to go with them. Even the mobile number migration failed to weaken them. I think this is unfair unless if the reason is security and regulation.

BBI will solve it
:)
VituVingiSana
#93 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 10:23:51 AM
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Punishing Safaricom for building M-Pesa into a giant is silly. They all started from the same premise/level but one innovated. #ThisIsKenya
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Shak
#94 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 12:13:07 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Punishing Safaricom for building M-Pesa into a giant is silly. They all started from the same premise/level but one innovated. #ThisIsKenya

How is this likely to affect the share price?
Shak
#95 Posted : Saturday, February 25, 2017 5:15:20 PM
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Shak wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Punishing Safaricom for building M-Pesa into a giant is silly. They all started from the same premise/level but one innovated. #ThisIsKenya

How is this likely to affect the share price?

CS Mucheru says government is opposed to the splitting of Safaricom. Thank goodness
obiero
#96 Posted : Saturday, February 25, 2017 5:29:50 PM
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Shak wrote:
Shak wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Punishing Safaricom for building M-Pesa into a giant is silly. They all started from the same premise/level but one innovated. #ThisIsKenya

How is this likely to affect the share price?

CS Mucheru says government is opposed to the splitting of Safaricom. Thank goodness

Same thing happened with Governor on the interest rates

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#97 Posted : Saturday, February 25, 2017 5:47:22 PM
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obiero wrote:
Shak wrote:
Shak wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Punishing Safaricom for building M-Pesa into a giant is silly. They all started from the same premise/level but one innovated. #ThisIsKenya

How is this likely to affect the share price?

CS Mucheru says government is opposed to the splitting of Safaricom. Thank goodness

Same thing happened with Governor on the interest rates


Obiero acha uwongo
The governor said CBK he didn't say government
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mlennyma
#98 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 2:51:21 PM
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what is scaring the elephant?
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wukan
#99 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 3:09:19 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
what is scaring the elephant?


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Safaricom chief executive Bob Collymore, who is typically reticent in his public comments, said this: "It sends a really worrying message to international investors in investing in the country ... It would imply that this is no longer a safe place."

This comment was made in response to the leak of a report commissioned by Kenya's telecoms regulator which allegedly recommends breaking Safaricom up into separate telecoms and financial services businesses because the firm is too dominant. Safaricom has 26 million subscribers, and of course its innovative M-Pesa mobile money platform.

"It's a malicious act to leak such a damaging report without first consulting or at least sharing it with us," Collymore told Reuters.

http://www.the-star.co.k...obal-investors_c1514043


The next wave down will be devastating Pray Pray Pray
Spikes
#100 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 3:12:49 PM
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wukan wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
what is scaring the elephant?


Quote:
Safaricom chief executive Bob Collymore, who is typically reticent in his public comments, said this: "It sends a really worrying message to international investors in investing in the country ... It would imply that this is no longer a safe place."

This comment was made in response to the leak of a report commissioned by Kenya's telecoms regulator which allegedly recommends breaking Safaricom up into separate telecoms and financial services businesses because the firm is too dominant. Safaricom has 26 million subscribers, and of course its innovative M-Pesa mobile money platform.

"It's a malicious act to leak such a damaging report without first consulting or at least sharing it with us," Collymore told Reuters.

http://www.the-star.co.k...obal-investors_c1514043


The next wave down will be devastating Pray Pray Pray

This stock is the most overcrowded with investors who don't take chances ....Wait and see the meltdown pressure south.
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