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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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ati madness? na je wale maHair dressers wanatoka bank na magunia? eh? kama yao inapatikana pia ya madaktari ipatikane! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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masukuma wrote:ati madness? na je wale maHair dressers wanatoka bank na magunia? eh? kama yao inapatikana pia ya madaktari ipatikane! Kwanza umenikumbusha, mahair dressers waliita press conference not long ago kusema wanalipwa bora kuliko madaktari. Nikasema, OK I care!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:ati madness? na je wale maHair dressers wanatoka bank na magunia? eh? kama yao inapatikana pia ya madaktari ipatikane! Hao wanafaa kuwa jela, why are you not asking why magara has not heard this case yet? 2 wrongs dont make a right. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:ati madness? na je wale maHair dressers wanatoka bank na magunia? eh? kama yao inapatikana pia ya madaktari ipatikane! Hao wanafaa kuwa jela, why are you not asking why magara has not heard this case yet? 2 wrongs dont make a right. what wrong doing are the doctors doing? eh? they are professionals asking to get paid what they were promised... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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plus i don't get all this discrediting going on... end game ni nini? nyinyi mnatafuta kura ya august - 6 months away and you hope to discredit them... so that who forces them to go back to work? the voter? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:ati madness? na je wale maHair dressers wanatoka bank na magunia? eh? kama yao inapatikana pia ya madaktari ipatikane! Hao wanafaa kuwa jela, why are you not asking why magara has not heard this case yet? 2 wrongs dont make a right. what wrong doing are the doctors doing? eh? they are professionals asking to get paid what they were promised... Promised by who? The CBA agreement is illegal. The only thing they can do is wakasirike wa resign. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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thuks wrote:masukuma wrote:ati madness? na je wale maHair dressers wanatoka bank na magunia? eh? kama yao inapatikana pia ya madaktari ipatikane! Kwanza umenikumbusha, mahair dressers waliita press conference not long ago kusema wanalipwa bora kuliko madaktari. Nikasema, OK Graft in govt should not be the justification for better pay for any civil servant\
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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Lolest! wrote:thuks wrote:masukuma wrote:ati madness? na je wale maHair dressers wanatoka bank na magunia? eh? kama yao inapatikana pia ya madaktari ipatikane! Kwanza umenikumbusha, mahair dressers waliita press conference not long ago kusema wanalipwa bora kuliko madaktari. Nikasema, OK Graft in govt should not be the justification for better pay for any civil servant\ Siyo ya magunia, mishahara yao ya halali I care!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Government doctors are already the highest paid. #saveWanjiko
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Government doctors are already the highest paid. #saveWanjiko Propaganda HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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hardwood wrote:Government doctors are already the highest paid. #saveWanjiko GTFOOH with the spin! It says right on there that this is the new pay package beginning July 2017. IOW these are NOT their current salaries! aargh!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Are the doctors still on strike? How many days now? I see 527 gang is getting desperate in its propaganda. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Intrigues, intrigues and more intrigues! Last week we heard that the PS who signed the CBA on behalf of Govt had actually done do so while he had left Government Now today the KMPDU officials stopped just short of naming.... eeeh the blogger Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Seems he is being advised by Hardwood, same spin: Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,729
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KulaRaha wrote:Seems he is being advised by Hardwood, same spin:
but everyone knows what he said is the truth and thats why he has always kept quiet till when he ran out of patience. You always find a doctor at private wing but rarely at main hospital Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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freiks wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Seems he is being advised by Hardwood, same spin:
but everyone knows what he said is the truth and thats why he has always kept quiet till when he ran out of patience. You always find a doctor at private wing but rarely at main hospital Right on the money @freiks, cold hard truth. Plus private hospitals (except Aga Khan) don't pay for training let alone research. The only thing that'll change immediately strike is called off is pay - gov. can't overhaul supplies, drugs, facilities, support staff in months.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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muganda wrote:freiks wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Seems he is being advised by Hardwood, same spin:
but everyone knows what he said is the truth and thats why he has always kept quiet till when he ran out of patience. You always find a doctor at private wing but rarely at main hospital Right on the money @freiks, cold hard truth. Plus private hospitals (except Aga Khan) don't pay for training let alone research. The only thing that'll change immediately strike is called off is pay - gov. can't overhaul supplies, drugs, facilities, support staff in months. Yes, they of cour know that. Most likely the facilities angle is a side issue to make us think they're fighting for the good of all and justify the deaths due to their strike
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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You can structure a public health system that has rules that govern conflicts of interest so that the doctors cannot have side gigs. But I think our gova knows that enforcing these rules would require that it tackle corruption effectively, which it is not capable of doing. So it's just easier to blame the doctors.
Meanwhile, almost half of our physician workforce (that we trained) is working in the west and many others are happy to move to Botswana, Rwanda, SA etc...
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