Kihii means boy so stop frothing over your mouths over a non issue.

@alma - No one says that health facilities in Kenya are perfect. Moi's 24 years of neglect is evident, however most of what we call level 5 was built by the colonial govt.

Like you, I come from a family of doctors and other health care officials. Infact I grew up in "Kambi" (hospital quarters). GOK hospitals had all these machines you see them restocking now. We used to play hide and seek outside those unused wards as we'd see those MRI machines and think thats what would fufua guys on their death beds. Slowly, guys would come pick the machine one by one until there was nothing. Si mliona Chuka an Anaesthesia Machine was stolen, the habit is still rife It is for this particular reason that I support counties running hospitals. Everyone should account for what they own.

As for Kihii



This statement here shows you know nothing about what is going on. 1st these machines are not bought, they are leased. This is the practice everywhere allover the world. When you lease the machine, the owner is the one who services it. If it is completely broken down, the owner - in this case GE will come pick it and replace it. The good thing with this arrangement is, hospitals will not have to employ engineers and such like people but concentrate on their core mandate.

@Dahatre Nani alikuambia Medicare and Medicaid is free? Soma hii you get educated - https://www.medicare.gov...s-a-and-b-premiums.html

We have payscales yes but why should a doctor on grade A - forexample get an increase and not that agricultural officer? This is not to say doctors are not paid higher in those pay scales.

Even in Sweden, healthcare is not entirely free. The patient pays up to a certain amount and the rest the govt pays. It will be inevitable that we all pay for medical care. So now, which version of health care do we want....a normalized Scandinavian way where the pay of the doc is not so much different from the one of a driver, or the capitalistic way?


BTW alma, on docs and nurses going out there.

Should the GOK subsidize medical education only for these people to go work out there and not pay taxes?

Scrap those subsidies, let these people get loans from Helb, pay up then go else where. Your tax money will have served you better that way.

Meanwhile, lecturers are on strike and the govt has offered them 3% pay rise ie 91k for lowest paid while highest paid professor will get 245k.

http://www.capitalfm.co....grams-public-varsities/

Compare that for doctors 40% payrise pushing starting pay at 200k and highest being 500k. How can those who teach the doctors and are more qualified with PhDs etc earn half what their students get.

Dahatre Quit talking about the American health system. The main reason Trump is in the White house is because of Obama Care. It is very expensive to many esp the healthy, and not cheap to those sickly and poor.

Obama care is some kind of market place like amazon where you purchase some insurance from private companies at different rates depending on your income. Nothing is free.

Doctors are not forcing the govt to choose anything. They want all the money allocated to health. Plus, you as the taxpayer should continue sponsoring their education. The govt has chosen - to provide drugs through KEMSA and lease machines. Your governor and his cabinet will choose how they use their budget allocation.

About scarcity, doctors see patients referred to them by clinical officers. And that is everywhere in private and public hospitals. Most outpatients are treated by COs.

As you can see, sio eti ni pesa hakuna. Ni lack of leadership, lack of direction na self interest at the top.

You dont know what you are talking about This headline on Nov 1 hurt Hillary the most: Obamacare prices are rising dramatically

And this is where @Masukuma's question is most cutting "what is the end game in that mindset"
To ostracise the Doctors in the public eye! Then what,- if they still dont go back to the Hospitals!!
This question needs to be asked to the puppeteer himself - forget about the cynics on call!

Aside from mischievous leaking, the other most stark aspect here is the clear demarcation between the literal meaning of the post and the connotative meaning - aka dog whistle which is the key objective.

Interesting how all problems are being blamed on Mulaguli and now Itoombe. Where is the CS who is paid to run the ministry?

The hypocrisy in this thread is astonishing to say the least.

I mean Itumbi's take is instructive as to where the the house on the hill stands - what is his job title again??

Then there is the question of who gave the info to him - or was he in the talks!

Is Muraguri and Mailu's lack of jelling orchestrated on purpose!

Including who? Itumbi is not the Govt