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# Should We Re-elect the Current Government ?
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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The answer depends on who you ask!! Luo – No Kikuyu – Yes Luyah – No Kalenjin – Yes Wacoast – Yes/No Kamba – Depending on what happens to Kalonzo Maasaii – Yes/No Wariaa – Yes Embu/ Meru – Yes Others - No The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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Vallerrie wrote:Lolest! wrote:Vallerrie wrote:It's very obvious who's gonna win this year's election. Africa doesn't do one term presidents. This government has been a total failure but its supporters will tell you 'There's no better alternative'. I wonder where that phrase came from.
Anyway, I gave up on this country a long time ago. Brace yourselves for 5 more years of mega corruption scandals and the same old 'When the opposition was in government they did it too', 'There's no better alternative' etc etc Nigeria, Ghana? Okay lemme fix that; KENYA doesn't do one term presidents. Current and baba (he'll win), two in a row I care!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,658
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aemathenge wrote:wukan wrote:The election is more like a beauty pageant for entertainment of the masses.
Conclusion: Sit this election out, you give power to the elite when you participate in their stupid games Wow, a kindred spirit. I did not register for the 2013 erections, choosing instead to sit it out due to some land issues among members of our family. I am contemplating sitting out this erection too but that is an entirely new thread. I have, however, been invited to join a team of social media warriors for a local (Kirinyaga) politician. I have told the politician that I am not a registered voter and I do not intend to register. The Politician does not mind this and in fact offered me a very handsome retainer with a “handsome” cash advance already in my sack. The icing in the cake for me is that I have recognized the opposing politician’s lead social media warrior and we have a history. It will be fun slugging it out like old times. In your opinion, is this participating in the games, but not actually voting, sitting it out? I wish you knew how much I contributed in terms of strategy and tactics to the one of the 2013 camps. Thank heavens for wazua anonymity. If you stay close to power you will see how it operates. That feeling that elite feel that they control your destiny and you follow them, that matters more to them than your vote. Power is power the fact the politician feels he controls you as his social media warrior means you are participating in the games. @hindsight you keep voting thinking the current elite cares for your interests. Same monkeys on both sides of the forest. Give them your vote and they will use it to bargain for their place at the dinner table.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Vallerrie wrote:Lolest! wrote:Vallerrie wrote:It's very obvious who's gonna win this year's election. Africa doesn't do one term presidents. This government has been a total failure but its supporters will tell you 'There's no better alternative'. I wonder where that phrase came from.
Anyway, I gave up on this country a long time ago. Brace yourselves for 5 more years of mega corruption scandals and the same old 'When the opposition was in government they did it too', 'There's no better alternative' etc etc Nigeria, Ghana? Okay lemme fix that; KENYA doesn't do one term presidents. Tuko papa hapa...  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/29/2016 Posts: 47 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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wukan wrote:
@hindsight you keep voting thinking the current elite cares for your interests. Same monkeys on both sides of the forest. Give them your vote and they will use it to bargain for their place at the dinner table.
@wukan, Voting in my opinion and actually is politically factual is the ideal and best way to participate in democracy/ making or ensuring a new guard of government is installed without much hullabaloo while the alternative leaves ...a trail of bloodshed,incumbency,dictatorship and most of all elite dominance...which if history is to be looked at ..doesn't last for long...as the subjects will reach a point of no return and when that happens ,you with your no vote/sitting out you will perish/suffer the consequences as well as the rest. So if given two choices,sitting out and participating ,the latter always works out best no matter how you spin it. In other words its the better option-not the only option. Live your life well, don't settle nor conform to people expectations. It's one of the best way to live life full of bliss and contentment.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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hindsight wrote:aemathenge wrote:hindsight wrote:#No Bullshit (name calling /personalization /tribal lining/ ushenzi etc) just straight factual supported answers.
#No Bullshit (name calling /personalization /tribal lining/ ushenzi etc) just straight factual supported answers. Or what? This is not kindergarten, neither are you tisha masho ine. I will bullshit until The Office of the Administrator censors me. I just got personal by calling you maisho ine. When you start implying, or anticipating that Citizens of the Virtual Republic will bring ushenzi, I translate that to mean you are "ushenzi" and you are therefore telling the other "ushenzi" to keep off. I am a tribalist. You are a newfarer. That is a fact. Speak for yourself. Live "We" out of it. Noted 100%. Unfortunately facts are stubborn. Re-read what you have wrote,then kindly stop and think,before you write. Or maybe we should start by asking: Shouldn't we go back to English classes? 
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/29/2016 Posts: 47 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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maka wrote:Vallerrie wrote:Lolest! wrote:Vallerrie wrote:It's very obvious who's gonna win this year's election. Africa doesn't do one term presidents. This government has been a total failure but its supporters will tell you 'There's no better alternative'. I wonder where that phrase came from.
Anyway, I gave up on this country a long time ago. Brace yourselves for 5 more years of mega corruption scandals and the same old 'When the opposition was in government they did it too', 'There's no better alternative' etc etc Nigeria, Ghana? Okay lemme fix that; KENYA doesn't do one term presidents. Tuko papa hapa... @Vallerrie,if you at my earlier posts ,am not advocating for any candidature,am merely looking at the current government validation for re-election. Having said that,i want to make this point; That regardless that Kenya hasn't in the past (though 2007/8 is debatable) dislodged an incumbent government after first term, it's very doable. Reasons; 1) Kenyans have the votes not the elite/leaders/government 2) There is always a first time for everything,why not? 3) Conformity bleeds certainty eventually to the norm. But when people power is harnessed and a few individuals inspire the rest,history is made.New norm is achieved,this has been demonstrated elsewhere. So,when after august elections ,there is a new normal,don't be surprised. Its the evolution of the new order as the old becomes new...alta continua. Live your life well, don't settle nor conform to people expectations. It's one of the best way to live life full of bliss and contentment.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/29/2016 Posts: 47 Location: Nairobi, Kenya
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washiku wrote:hindsight wrote:aemathenge wrote:hindsight wrote:#No Bullshit (name calling /personalization /tribal lining/ ushenzi etc) just straight factual supported answers.
#No Bullshit (name calling /personalization /tribal lining/ ushenzi etc) just straight factual supported answers. Or what? This is not kindergarten, neither are you tisha masho ine. I will bullshit until The Office of the Administrator censors me. I just got personal by calling you maisho ine. When you start implying, or anticipating that Citizens of the Virtual Republic will bring ushenzi, I translate that to mean you are "ushenzi" and you are therefore telling the other "ushenzi" to keep off. I am a tribalist. You are a newfarer. That is a fact. Speak for yourself. Live "We" out of it. Noted 100%. Unfortunately facts are stubborn. Re-read what you have wrote,then kindly stop and think,before you write. Or maybe we should start by asking: Shouldn't we go back to English classes? @Washiku, English is always learned often ,hence am always a student of the noble language. Communication is the key. KISS Principle . i stay guided though ! Live your life well, don't settle nor conform to people expectations. It's one of the best way to live life full of bliss and contentment.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2015 Posts: 682
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The big question in my mind is, is corruption really a voter issue in Kenya? My heart says maybe it is, my head says this election will be just another tribal census.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/9/2017 Posts: 65
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hindsight wrote:Liv wrote:@ hindsight,
1. What a question you have asked..... "We as who?"... The armchair analysts here
2. From your analysis and what you've written to support your question, the title of the the topic should be: "why the current government should not be re-elected"....
Or can you be more objective to support your question? @Liv "we as who" i mean't Kenyans of good will. Being wazuans, we are also Kenyans(those are not ,do not apply.) @Liv "can you be more objective to support your question?" Just started a thread with aim of starting a healthy informative debate. It was deliberate to give out facts that can inform the question(s) ,and that's why i made the title of the topic that way.I went further and quoted @maka who also quoted Toni Kimani. That showcases objectivity of the issues intended to be impartial political discussion with divergent articulated views welcomed. I agree with @Liv, @Hindsight already has a preset opinion!!!  The past is the past, you either run from it or learn from it!
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