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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Flo-ology wrote:Tokyo wrote:That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry @Tycho, I agree with you. At POE you are interrogated of your intentions in that country. If your answers/explanations don't add up you are denied entry. The way she carried herself plus the academic certificates in her possession sold her out. I suspect in this case the young lady was planning to use her certificates to get "those" jobs in US and most likely overstay as some Kenyans do. If the Visa was validly obtained and no new information had been received between issuing the visa and the time of entry to invalidate the visa, then I don't think the immigration officer should deny you entry. The whole point of applying for a visa before travel is to allow for vetting of travelers, before they get to the POE. Withdrawing consent to enter after giving it is unfair and unjustified. @obi.....wrong. a visa is a first line of defence while the immigration officer is the last line. Pls read the disclaimer on visas_- ....does not constitute authority to enter.....entry maybe denied. Secondly new info is what the immigration officer seeks from the person arriving by way of interrogation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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hamburglar wrote:I think if someone is being truthful they would not have a problem with the immigration officers vetting or even handing over their phone for them to peruse. She had to give out the phone because by refusing to hand it over it would have meant immediate deportation. Handing it over shows that at least she was cooperating and that will sometimes help your cause if the case is 50/50.
that line has been used by dictators all over!! arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say! Nobody needs to justify why they 'need' a right, The burden of justification falls on the one seeking to infringe upon the right. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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To visit another country is a privilege. The visa is a privilege, not a right and can be revoked at any moment by your host. It's just like visiting your neighbor. A neighbor can accept your request for a visit, but if you land at the door with luggage and baggage that suggests that you don't intend to go back home after the visit and thus would become a burden and a nuisance to the host, then the jirani can say no and turn you back at the main door, the fact that you have spent 200 bob from ushago to his home notwithstanding. So the US did nothing wrong in denying that Kenyan entry.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Quote:According to (former) NSA analyst and counterintelligence officer John R. Schindler's piece in the Observer, the U.S.'s intelligence community is so convinced that Donald Trump and his administration have been compromised by Russia that (they) it are no longer briefing the White House on all of its most sensitive information, lest the information end up in Putin's cold, tiger-blood-soaked hands.
In light of this, and out of worries about the White House’s ability to keep secrets, some of our spy agencies have begun withholding intelligence from the Oval Office.
Why risk your most sensitive information if the president may ignore it anyway?
A senior National Security Agency official explained that NSA was systematically holding back some of the “good stuff” from the White House, in an unprecedented move.
For decades, NSA has prepared special reports for the president’s eyes only, containing enormously sensitive intelligence. In the last three weeks, however, NSA has ceased doing this, fearing Trump and his staff cannot keep their best SIGINT [Signals Intercept] secrets.
Worse, our nation's intelligence experts aren't solely worried that Team Trump might accidentally reveal secrets to the enemy.
There's concern that even the Situation Room has been compromised by Russia.
What’s going on was explained lucidly by a senior Pentagon intelligence official, who stated that “since January 20, we’ve assumed that the Kremlin has ears inside the SITROOM,” meaning the White House Situation Room, the 5,500 square-foot conference room in the West Wing where the president and his top staffers get intelligence briefings.
“There’s not much the Russians don’t know at this point,” the official added in wry frustration.
Credit to the Observer for publishing this piece, since Jared Kushner, Trump's senior aide/son-in-law/lead puppeteer, is the paper's owner and publisher. Source:
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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aemathenge wrote:Quote:According to (former) NSA analyst and counterintelligence officer John R. Schindler's piece in the Observer, the U.S.'s intelligence community is so convinced that Donald Trump and his administration have been compromised by Russia that (they) it are no longer briefing the White House on all of its most sensitive information, lest the information end up in Putin's cold, tiger-blood-soaked hands.
In light of this, and out of worries about the White House’s ability to keep secrets, some of our spy agencies have begun withholding intelligence from the Oval Office.
Why risk your most sensitive information if the president may ignore it anyway?
A senior National Security Agency official explained that NSA was systematically holding back some of the “good stuff” from the White House, in an unprecedented move.
For decades, NSA has prepared special reports for the president’s eyes only, containing enormously sensitive intelligence. In the last three weeks, however, NSA has ceased doing this, fearing Trump and his staff cannot keep their best SIGINT [Signals Intercept] secrets.
Worse, our nation's intelligence experts aren't solely worried that Team Trump might accidentally reveal secrets to the enemy.
There's concern that even the Situation Room has been compromised by Russia.
What’s going on was explained lucidly by a senior Pentagon intelligence official, who stated that “since January 20, we’ve assumed that the Kremlin has ears inside the SITROOM,” meaning the White House Situation Room, the 5,500 square-foot conference room in the West Wing where the president and his top staffers get intelligence briefings.
“There’s not much the Russians don’t know at this point,” the official added in wry frustration.
Credit to the Observer for publishing this piece, since Jared Kushner, Trump's senior aide/son-in-law/lead puppeteer, is the paper's owner and publisher. Source: #FakeNews #HogwashPress
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Copied:......is not a disagreement about the law and the Constitution. There is no constitutional right for a citizen in a foreign country who has no status in America to demand entry into our country. Such a right cannot exist; such a right will never exist," Miller said
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:To visit another country is a privilege. The visa is a privilege, not a right and can be revoked at any moment by your host. It's just like visiting your neighbor. A neighbor can accept your request for a visit, but if you land at the door with luggage and baggage that suggests that you don't intend to go back home after the visit and thus would become a burden and a nuisance to the host, then the jirani can say no and turn you back at the main door, the fact that you have spent 200 bob from ushago to his home notwithstanding. So the US did nothing wrong in denying that Kenyan entry. I am in total agreement with you! sio right! it can be withdrawn. my biggest issue is that people allow themselves to be bended over backwards so much to a point where you sacrifice your individual right! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Hii hand shake jo! "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Day 26 "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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