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harrydre
#491 Posted : Sunday, February 12, 2017 7:45:31 PM
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#492 Posted : Sunday, February 12, 2017 8:50:36 PM
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Paper Accidentally Runs Photo of Alec Baldwin Instead of Donald Trump



BBI will solve it :)
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Gatheuzi
#493 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 7:26:31 AM
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2012 wrote:

Paper Accidentally Runs Photo of Alec Baldwin Instead of Donald Trump



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
These comedians look so real! It is like putting photo of Nyambane and calling him our second president!!
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hamburglar
#494 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 7:44:44 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
harrydre wrote:
ENTRY DENIED!

That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry



Exactly. This was not because of Trump's immigration policy, this girl was caught with academic papers in her luggage and yet she was going to Chicago for a visit. Shows that she was coming to America to seek employment. That was her undoing, it was a routine check and she was caught lying. Not being honest at the POE will usually get you a one way ticket back home.
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#495 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 12:34:34 PM
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Flo-ology wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
harrydre wrote:
ENTRY DENIED!

That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry




@Tycho, I agree with you. At POE you are interrogated of your intentions in that country. If your answers/explanations don't add up you are denied entry. The way she carried herself plus the academic certificates in her possession sold her out. I suspect in this case the young lady was planning to use her certificates to get "those" jobs in US and most likely overstay as some Kenyans do.


If the Visa was validly obtained and no new information had been received between issuing the visa and the time of entry to invalidate the visa, then I don't think the immigration officer should deny you entry.

The whole point of applying for a visa before travel is to allow for vetting of travelers, before they get to the POE. Withdrawing consent to enter after giving it is unfair and unjustified.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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masukuma
#496 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 3:31:10 PM
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at least he has been consistent on some things over and over
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hamburglar
#497 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 4:47:35 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
harrydre wrote:
ENTRY DENIED!

That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry




@Tycho, I agree with you. At POE you are interrogated of your intentions in that country. If your answers/explanations don't add up you are denied entry. The way she carried herself plus the academic certificates in her possession sold her out. I suspect in this case the young lady was planning to use her certificates to get "those" jobs in US and most likely overstay as some Kenyans do.


If the Visa was validly obtained and no new information had been received between issuing the visa and the time of entry to invalidate the visa, then I don't think the immigration officer should deny you entry.

The whole point of applying for a visa before travel is to allow for vetting of travelers, before they get to the POE. Withdrawing consent to enter after giving it is unfair and unjustified.


Obi. Actually it's not unfair. The immigration officers have a right to conduct a random check and in the event that they find you with any suspicious material, it's up to their discretion to either let you in or turn you back.

The officers at the POE are the last line of defense and it's well within their duty to vet would be travellers a second time despite them having a valid Visa. You can get a visa in your home country but if you decide to take anything that might expose your intentions as dishonest, I also personally think you should not be allowed in.

Sometimes it's better to be honest. Kenyans have a tendency of lying their way into everything g something that is frowned upon in the West. Why was this girl carrying academic papers in her luggage and she was only going for a "visit"?

That raises red flags and I think the officers were just doing their job when they sent her back. Kenyans need to start being truthful. If this girl wanted to go to school she should have just applied for an F1 student visa and played by the rules. Shortcuts are costly in the long run.
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masukuma
#498 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 4:54:18 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
harrydre wrote:
ENTRY DENIED!

That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry




@Tycho, I agree with you. At POE you are interrogated of your intentions in that country. If your answers/explanations don't add up you are denied entry. The way she carried herself plus the academic certificates in her possession sold her out. I suspect in this case the young lady was planning to use her certificates to get "those" jobs in US and most likely overstay as some Kenyans do.


If the Visa was validly obtained and no new information had been received between issuing the visa and the time of entry to invalidate the visa, then I don't think the immigration officer should deny you entry.

The whole point of applying for a visa before travel is to allow for vetting of travelers, before they get to the POE. Withdrawing consent to enter after giving it is unfair and unjustified.


Obi. Actually it's no unfair. The immigration officers have a right to conduct a random check and in the event that they find you with any suspicious material, it's up to their discretion to either let you in or turn you back.

The officers at the POE are the last line of defense and it's well within their duty to vet would be travellers a second time despite them having a valid Visa. You can get a visa in your home country but if you decide to take anything that might expose your intentions as dishonest, I also personally think you should not be allowed in.

Sometimes it's better to be honest. Kenyans have a tendency of lying their way into everything g something that is frowned upon in the West. Why was this girl carrying academic papers in her luggage and she was only going for a "visit"?

That raises red flags and I think the officers were just doing their job when they sent her back. Kenyans need to start being truthful. If this girl wanted to go to school she should have just applied for an F1 student visa and played by the rules. Shortcuts are costly in the long run.

the thing i don't get is Why TF would they ask for your phone and an even bigger question... Why would you give it to them plus the password? like really?
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AlphDoti
#499 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 5:10:17 PM
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masukuma wrote:
at least he has been consistent on some things over and over

True. But the reality on the ground says the opposite... Unless he is not in touch
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hamburglar
#500 Posted : Monday, February 13, 2017 5:20:40 PM
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masukuma wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
harrydre wrote:
ENTRY DENIED!

That has nothing to do with travel ban. Many people are denied entry at POE. Her inconsistenct narrative resulted in denial of entry




@Tycho, I agree with you. At POE you are interrogated of your intentions in that country. If your answers/explanations don't add up you are denied entry. The way she carried herself plus the academic certificates in her possession sold her out. I suspect in this case the young lady was planning to use her certificates to get "those" jobs in US and most likely overstay as some Kenyans do.


If the Visa was validly obtained and no new information had been received between issuing the visa and the time of entry to invalidate the visa, then I don't think the immigration officer should deny you entry.

The whole point of applying for a visa before travel is to allow for vetting of travelers, before they get to the POE. Withdrawing consent to enter after giving it is unfair and unjustified.


Obi. Actually it's no unfair. The immigration officers have a right to conduct a random check and in the event that they find you with any suspicious material, it's up to their discretion to either let you in or turn you back.

The officers at the POE are the last line of defense and it's well within their duty to vet would be travellers a second time despite them having a valid Visa. You can get a visa in your home country but if you decide to take anything that might expose your intentions as dishonest, I also personally think you should not be allowed in.

Sometimes it's better to be honest. Kenyans have a tendency of lying their way into everything g something that is frowned upon in the West. Why was this girl carrying academic papers in her luggage and she was only going for a "visit"?

That raises red flags and I think the officers were just doing their job when they sent her back. Kenyans need to start being truthful. If this girl wanted to go to school she should have just applied for an F1 student visa and played by the rules. Shortcuts are costly in the long run.

the thing i don't get is Why TF would they ask for your phone and an even bigger question... Why would you give it to them plus the password? like really?


I think that was after they had found the academic papers in her luggage and were trying to dig deeper and find out what else they could use to ascertain her intentions. They wanted to see if maybe there were conversations with somebody that would implicate her. Once they suspect someone they have every right to investigate further and if you don't have anything to hide, why wouldn't you give them your phone?

I think if someone is being truthful they would not have a problem with the immigration officers vetting or even handing over their phone for them to peruse. She had to give out the phone because by refusing to hand it over it would have meant immediate deportation. Handing it over shows that at least she was cooperating and that will sometimes help your cause if the case is 50/50.
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