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Too many conclusions being drawn from TV footage, there has to be a reason why Shell specifically targeted this Petrol station. Plus the issue of trespass does not arise as I can bet the franchise agreement gives Shell employees unlimited access to the station. Lakini if there was a court order which Polycarp ignored, then he could be in deep shit. corporate deeply detest risk (the MNC's especially live to mitigate risk) and any senior employee who places the company at risk knowingly is as good as cooked. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Too many conclusions being drawn from TV footage, there has to be a reason why Shell specifically targeted this Petrol station.
Plus the issue of trespass does not arise as I can bet the franchise agreement gives Shell employees unlimited access to the station.
Lakini if there was a court order which Polycarp ignored, then he could be in deep shit. corporate deeply detest risk (the MNC's especially live to mitigate risk) and any senior employee who places the company at risk knowingly is as good as cooked. Any useless lawyer would win this one. That's why even the police could not come up with anything other than disturbing the peace. He'll say Shell aka Vivo are targeting his station because they want to give it to Polycap's buddies. Trespass is an issue. Unlimited access to a station does not mean going in and trashing property with hired goons. That's private property and his rights rule over any rights that Shell may have on that property. They have to follow the law. Polycap shall say he didn't see any court order and it was not served to him. Which is mute in this case when you see him telling his hired goons to come destroy someone's property. All I saw was a fat CEO of a multinational that is accused of all manner of underhand dealings, forcing his way into the home of a crippled man. The crippled man's life and livelyhood was under threat from a multinational that does not follow legal proceedure. It's impunity! He is one lucky guy to be alive. If all he does is get fired, he's one lucky mf. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Flo-ology wrote:2012 wrote:FRM2011 wrote:muganda wrote:It was only a matter of time before a gun drama was captured, live live, on TV. But the impunity! Dangerous job on Polycarp Igathe's part, all because of Shell Petrol station, Nairobi-Naivasha highway http://www.the-star.co.k...izing-his-fuel_c1502482
The other side of the story... If we put way the gun drama for a while, I understand the senator 100%. These shell guys are as corrupt as hell. If you happen to run a station in a good site where you can move 300,000 litres, you are a marked man. There will be vultures waiting to take over your station after bribing senior guys at shell. They put crazy demands at short notice to push you out. I saw a demand for a guy to raise his deposit from 7M to 12M by CoB. Never seen a grown man pushed to the wall. Once a senior guy determines you are in breach of the contract, they move in and evict you. Even if the plot is yours. And that's where the real theft happens. They will do a stock take in your absence. You know you had 45000 litres but they will insist there was 10000. Trust me senator did the smart thing. He can handle the gun case. This is Kenya. So, Polycap is corrupt? Looks like. Furthermore he is unprofessional:how does a CEO of multinational brand tarnish the image of brand by runnng errands or "kazi ya mkono" which should be done by office messengers or junior employees!@? Ati he was "overseeing". He must be having personal interests. The best thing Igathe should have done is get court order and send his staff there or better still use law enforcing officers if the proprietor had violated company agreement. To me he is part of the cartel that is conniving to get that prime location. I doubt the likes of Ohana can pull such stunts. Vivo should fire him to project the brand. This is how great brands are destroyed. Over the past months Vivo has been in the news for wrong reasons Interesting. Clearly, there's more than meets the eye here. But I would not want to meet that Senator, he clearly has other issues.
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Too many conclusions being drawn from TV footage, there has to be a reason why Shell specifically targeted this Petrol station.
Plus the issue of trespass does not arise as I can bet the franchise agreement gives Shell employees unlimited access to the station.
Lakini if there was a court order which Polycarp ignored, then he could be in deep shit. corporate deeply detest risk (the MNC's especially live to mitigate risk) and any senior employee who places the company at risk knowingly is as good as cooked. shida, some guys want the marketing and the benefits attached from franchise with the big firms and still too greedy they want to run the biashara as an independent outlet. what happens, they end up getting fuel from those funny trucks, the fuel is mostly adulterated, denting the firms image, when the guys from the firms come to check they are threatened with guns and the regulatory guys look the other way due to connections.
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Too many conclusions being drawn from TV footage, there has to be a reason why Shell specifically targeted this Petrol station.
Plus the issue of trespass does not arise as I can bet the franchise agreement gives Shell employees unlimited access to the station.
Lakini if there was a court order which Polycarp ignored, then he could be in deep shit. corporate deeply detest risk (the MNC's especially live to mitigate risk) and any senior employee who places the company at risk knowingly is as good as cooked. shida, some guys want the marketing and the benefits attached from franchise with the big firms and still too greedy they want to run the biashara as an independent outlet. what happens, they end up getting fuel from those funny trucks, the fuel is mostly adulterated, denting the firms image, when the guys from the firms come to check they are threatened with guns and the regulatory guys look the other way due to connections. You are introducing a new angle. According to Polycarp, shell were evicting the senator because of a stock-out inconviencing their clients. Senator Njoroge has talked about the dead stock of lubricants. I have experienced this. They use the lubricants trick to mess your cash flow resulting in stock-outs. One more thing, to get fuel on Monday evening, you need to pay by 2pm Friday. When they want to evict you, someone will just delay updating their system and you are bila fuel.
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FRM2011 wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Too many conclusions being drawn from TV footage, there has to be a reason why Shell specifically targeted this Petrol station.
Plus the issue of trespass does not arise as I can bet the franchise agreement gives Shell employees unlimited access to the station.
Lakini if there was a court order which Polycarp ignored, then he could be in deep shit. corporate deeply detest risk (the MNC's especially live to mitigate risk) and any senior employee who places the company at risk knowingly is as good as cooked. shida, some guys want the marketing and the benefits attached from franchise with the big firms and still too greedy they want to run the biashara as an independent outlet. what happens, they end up getting fuel from those funny trucks, the fuel is mostly adulterated, denting the firms image, when the guys from the firms come to check they are threatened with guns and the regulatory guys look the other way due to connections. You are introducing a new angle. According to Polycarp, shell were evicting the senator because of a stock-out inconviencing their clients. Senator Njoroge has talked about the dead stock of lubricants. I have experienced this. They use the lubricants trick to mess your cash flow resulting in stock-outs. One more thing, to get fuel on Monday evening, you need to pay by 2pm Friday. When they want to evict you, someone will just delay updating their system and you are bila fuel. @FRM2011, your theory doesn't make sense. I presume that; 1. You enter into a signed agreement with Shell, so things are done per the agreement, issues of eviction must then follow the agreement. 2. The infrastructure that houses the station is yours and not shells so they can't really evict you, you can opt to take your business to the competition 3. Shell uses their sales people (account managers) whose core role is to drive sales, stock-outs and low sales is the responsibility of the sales team and account managers and not the station owner. Shell as a company is interested in pushing countrywide sales, and targets 4. I would expect fuel to have a separate account from lubricants such that your fuel account status is not affected by slow moving lubricants. I tend to agree with @Sitakikujulikana's theory, this guy is a politician and I have learned to not trust them at all, they are all corrupt and think they can get away with anything, I bet he was selling adulterated fuel purchased from those dodgy trucks. Never give a Kenyan politician the benefit of the doubt "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:FRM2011 wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Too many conclusions being drawn from TV footage, there has to be a reason why Shell specifically targeted this Petrol station.
Plus the issue of trespass does not arise as I can bet the franchise agreement gives Shell employees unlimited access to the station.
Lakini if there was a court order which Polycarp ignored, then he could be in deep shit. corporate deeply detest risk (the MNC's especially live to mitigate risk) and any senior employee who places the company at risk knowingly is as good as cooked. shida, some guys want the marketing and the benefits attached from franchise with the big firms and still too greedy they want to run the biashara as an independent outlet. what happens, they end up getting fuel from those funny trucks, the fuel is mostly adulterated, denting the firms image, when the guys from the firms come to check they are threatened with guns and the regulatory guys look the other way due to connections. You are introducing a new angle. According to Polycarp, shell were evicting the senator because of a stock-out inconviencing their clients. Senator Njoroge has talked about the dead stock of lubricants. I have experienced this. They use the lubricants trick to mess your cash flow resulting in stock-outs. One more thing, to get fuel on Monday evening, you need to pay by 2pm Friday. When they want to evict you, someone will just delay updating their system and you are bila fuel. @FRM2011, your theory doesn't make sense. I presume that; 1. You enter into a signed agreement with Shell, so things are done per the agreement, issues of eviction must then follow the agreement. 2. The infrastructure that houses the station is yours and not shells so they can't really evict you, you can opt to take your business to the competition 3. Shell uses their sales people (account managers) whose core role is to drive sales, stock-outs and low sales is the responsibility of the sales team and account managers and not the station owner. Shell as a company is interested in pushing countrywide sales, and targets 4. I would expect fuel to have a separate account from lubricants such that your fuel account status is not affected by slow moving lubricants. I tend to agree with @Sitakikujulikana's theory, this guy is a politician and I have learned to not trust them at all, they are all corrupt and think they can get away with anything, I bet he was selling adulterated fuel purchased from those dodgy trucks. Never give a Kenyan politician the benefit of the doubt Why would a CEO be involved in eviction with no police. From my limited understanding of Franchise management, a francisor cannot evict a franchisee, they can only terminate the franchise agreement. Why would they evict you on your property yet you are the owner of the property and all the inventory and you pay them their royalty and management fees? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:[quote=FRM2011][quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Obi 1 Kanobi]/quote]
@FRM2011, your theory doesn't make sense. I presume that;
1. You enter into a signed agreement with Shell, so things are done per the agreement, issues of eviction must then follow the agreement.
2. The infrastructure that houses the station is yours and not shells so they can't really evict you, you can opt to take your business to the competition
3. Shell uses their sales people (account managers) whose core role is to drive sales, stock-outs and low sales is the responsibility of the sales team and account managers and not the station owner. Shell as a company is interested in pushing countrywide sales, and targets
4. I would expect fuel to have a separate account from lubricants such that your fuel account status is not affected by slow moving lubricants.
I tend to agree with @Sitakikujulikana's theory, this guy is a politician and I have learned to not trust them at all, they are all corrupt and think they can get away with anything, I bet he was selling adulterated fuel purchased from those dodgy trucks.
Never give a Kenyan politician the benefit of the doubt Am afraid you are wrong in all the above. I worked for 6 months as a station manager under a shell dealership. Until the other day when they started taking over previously independent stations, the practice before was for shell to put up the entire infrastructure, while you provide the land. Even now, everything belongs to shell, including the pumps, tanks and fire fighting equipment. Everything has a shell sticker including the cage for gas cylinders. You only own the inventory. An account manager has a target to drive sales but if you don't meet your target, they start threats of giving the station to someone else. It's why they will send you an email on 31st March and tell you you must buy lubricants worth a certain amount by end of day to meet the quarterly target. And you can't get fuel until you clear the lubricants invoice. Let me explain how a take over happens because I experienced one. Senior guys show up early in the morning and they seal off the premises. Your employees are evicted. You cannot even access the office. They take charge and advise you to pursue your account settlement at their head office. If they tell you that your tanks were leaking and there is water in the fuel tank, your stocks worth like 6M is gone just like that. And they will deduct it from your deposit. It's your land but can't access it anymore. For the senator, it's either that junior employees were unable to evict him or it's a strategic site and polycarp has an interest. Otherwise, this is a first time for a CEO to be involved in KYM tasks.
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FRM2011 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:[quote=FRM2011][quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Obi 1 Kanobi]/quote]
@FRM2011, your theory doesn't make sense. I presume that;
1. You enter into a signed agreement with Shell, so things are done per the agreement, issues of eviction must then follow the agreement.
2. The infrastructure that houses the station is yours and not shells so they can't really evict you, you can opt to take your business to the competition
3. Shell uses their sales people (account managers) whose core role is to drive sales, stock-outs and low sales is the responsibility of the sales team and account managers and not the station owner. Shell as a company is interested in pushing countrywide sales, and targets
4. I would expect fuel to have a separate account from lubricants such that your fuel account status is not affected by slow moving lubricants.
I tend to agree with @Sitakikujulikana's theory, this guy is a politician and I have learned to not trust them at all, they are all corrupt and think they can get away with anything, I bet he was selling adulterated fuel purchased from those dodgy trucks.
Never give a Kenyan politician the benefit of the doubt Am afraid you are wrong in all the above. I worked for 6 months as a station manager under a shell dealership. Until the other day when they started taking over previously independent stations, the practice before was for shell to put up the entire infrastructure, while you provide the land. Even now, everything belongs to shell, including the pumps, tanks and fire fighting equipment. Everything has a shell sticker including the cage for gas cylinders. You only own the inventory. An account manager has a target to drive sales but if you don't meet your target, they start threats of giving the station to someone else. It's why they will send you an email on 31st March and tell you you must buy lubricants worth a certain amount by end of day to meet the quarterly target. And you can't get fuel until you clear the lubricants invoice. Let me explain how a take over happens because I experienced one. Senior guys show up early in the morning and they seal off the premises. Your employees are evicted. You cannot even access the office. They take charge and advise you to pursue your account settlement at their head office. If they tell you that your tanks were leaking and there is water in the fuel tank, your stocks worth like 6M is gone just like that. And they will deduct it from your deposit. It's your land but can't access it anymore. For the senator, it's either that junior employees were unable to evict him or it's a strategic site and polycarp has an interest. Otherwise, this is a first time for a CEO to be involved in KYM tasks. Same with eabl dealerships,the zeal with which that guy was acting said soo much, lucky he is not in a morgue,the senator didn't shoot in air,the gun went off!
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Taurrus wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:[quote=FRM2011][quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Obi 1 Kanobi]/quote]
@FRM2011, your theory doesn't make sense. I presume that;
1. You enter into a signed agreement with Shell, so things are done per the agreement, issues of eviction must then follow the agreement.
2. The infrastructure that houses the station is yours and not shells so they can't really evict you, you can opt to take your business to the competition
3. Shell uses their sales people (account managers) whose core role is to drive sales, stock-outs and low sales is the responsibility of the sales team and account managers and not the station owner. Shell as a company is interested in pushing countrywide sales, and targets
4. I would expect fuel to have a separate account from lubricants such that your fuel account status is not affected by slow moving lubricants.
I tend to agree with @Sitakikujulikana's theory, this guy is a politician and I have learned to not trust them at all, they are all corrupt and think they can get away with anything, I bet he was selling adulterated fuel purchased from those dodgy trucks.
Never give a Kenyan politician the benefit of the doubt Am afraid you are wrong in all the above. I worked for 6 months as a station manager under a shell dealership. Until the other day when they started taking over previously independent stations, the practice before was for shell to put up the entire infrastructure, while you provide the land. Even now, everything belongs to shell, including the pumps, tanks and fire fighting equipment. Everything has a shell sticker including the cage for gas cylinders. You only own the inventory. An account manager has a target to drive sales but if you don't meet your target, they start threats of giving the station to someone else. It's why they will send you an email on 31st March and tell you you must buy lubricants worth a certain amount by end of day to meet the quarterly target. And you can't get fuel until you clear the lubricants invoice. Let me explain how a take over happens because I experienced one. Senior guys show up early in the morning and they seal off the premises. Your employees are evicted. You cannot even access the office. They take charge and advise you to pursue your account settlement at their head office. If they tell you that your tanks were leaking and there is water in the fuel tank, your stocks worth like 6M is gone just like that. And they will deduct it from your deposit. It's your land but can't access it anymore. For the senator, it's either that junior employees were unable to evict him or it's a strategic site and polycarp has an interest. Otherwise, this is a first time for a CEO to be involved in KYM tasks. Same with eabl dealerships,the zeal with which that guy was acting said soo much, lucky he is not in a morgue, the senator didn't shoot in air,the gun went off! Yeah  On account of being frightened intensely, as goons were beckoned to pounce - his hands were trembling, a result of which the fingers accidentally pressed on the trigger Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Ngalaka wrote:Taurrus wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:[quote=FRM2011][quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Obi 1 Kanobi]/quote]
@FRM2011, your theory doesn't make sense. I presume that;
1. You enter into a signed agreement with Shell, so things are done per the agreement, issues of eviction must then follow the agreement.
2. The infrastructure that houses the station is yours and not shells so they can't really evict you, you can opt to take your business to the competition
3. Shell uses their sales people (account managers) whose core role is to drive sales, stock-outs and low sales is the responsibility of the sales team and account managers and not the station owner. Shell as a company is interested in pushing countrywide sales, and targets
4. I would expect fuel to have a separate account from lubricants such that your fuel account status is not affected by slow moving lubricants.
I tend to agree with @Sitakikujulikana's theory, this guy is a politician and I have learned to not trust them at all, they are all corrupt and think they can get away with anything, I bet he was selling adulterated fuel purchased from those dodgy trucks.
Never give a Kenyan politician the benefit of the doubt Am afraid you are wrong in all the above. I worked for 6 months as a station manager under a shell dealership. Until the other day when they started taking over previously independent stations, the practice before was for shell to put up the entire infrastructure, while you provide the land. Even now, everything belongs to shell, including the pumps, tanks and fire fighting equipment. Everything has a shell sticker including the cage for gas cylinders. You only own the inventory. An account manager has a target to drive sales but if you don't meet your target, they start threats of giving the station to someone else. It's why they will send you an email on 31st March and tell you you must buy lubricants worth a certain amount by end of day to meet the quarterly target. And you can't get fuel until you clear the lubricants invoice. Let me explain how a take over happens because I experienced one. Senior guys show up early in the morning and they seal off the premises. Your employees are evicted. You cannot even access the office. They take charge and advise you to pursue your account settlement at their head office. If they tell you that your tanks were leaking and there is water in the fuel tank, your stocks worth like 6M is gone just like that. And they will deduct it from your deposit. It's your land but can't access it anymore. For the senator, it's either that junior employees were unable to evict him or it's a strategic site and polycarp has an interest. Otherwise, this is a first time for a CEO to be involved in KYM tasks. Same with eabl dealerships,the zeal with which that guy was acting said soo much, lucky he is not in a morgue, the senator didn't shoot in air,the gun went off! Yeah On account of being frightened intensely, as goons were beckoned to pounce - his hands were trembling, a result of which the fingers accidentally pressed on the trigger affirmative. and even the gun wasn't his. it miraculously dropped onto his hands when the igathe fellow drew it to finish him.
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mkenyan wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Taurrus wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:[quote=FRM2011][quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Obi 1 Kanobi]/quote]
@FRM2011, your theory doesn't make sense. I presume that;
1. You enter into a signed agreement with Shell, so things are done per the agreement, issues of eviction must then follow the agreement.
2. The infrastructure that houses the station is yours and not shells so they can't really evict you, you can opt to take your business to the competition
3. Shell uses their sales people (account managers) whose core role is to drive sales, stock-outs and low sales is the responsibility of the sales team and account managers and not the station owner. Shell as a company is interested in pushing countrywide sales, and targets
4. I would expect fuel to have a separate account from lubricants such that your fuel account status is not affected by slow moving lubricants.
I tend to agree with @Sitakikujulikana's theory, this guy is a politician and I have learned to not trust them at all, they are all corrupt and think they can get away with anything, I bet he was selling adulterated fuel purchased from those dodgy trucks.
Never give a Kenyan politician the benefit of the doubt Am afraid you are wrong in all the above. I worked for 6 months as a station manager under a shell dealership. Until the other day when they started taking over previously independent stations, the practice before was for shell to put up the entire infrastructure, while you provide the land. Even now, everything belongs to shell, including the pumps, tanks and fire fighting equipment. Everything has a shell sticker including the cage for gas cylinders. You only own the inventory. An account manager has a target to drive sales but if you don't meet your target, they start threats of giving the station to someone else. It's why they will send you an email on 31st March and tell you you must buy lubricants worth a certain amount by end of day to meet the quarterly target. And you can't get fuel until you clear the lubricants invoice. Let me explain how a take over happens because I experienced one. Senior guys show up early in the morning and they seal off the premises. Your employees are evicted. You cannot even access the office. They take charge and advise you to pursue your account settlement at their head office. If they tell you that your tanks were leaking and there is water in the fuel tank, your stocks worth like 6M is gone just like that. And they will deduct it from your deposit. It's your land but can't access it anymore. For the senator, it's either that junior employees were unable to evict him or it's a strategic site and polycarp has an interest. Otherwise, this is a first time for a CEO to be involved in KYM tasks. Same with eabl dealerships,the zeal with which that guy was acting said soo much, lucky he is not in a morgue, the senator didn't shoot in air,the gun went off! Yeah On account of being frightened intensely, as goons were beckoned to pounce - his hands were trembling, a result of which the fingers accidentally pressed on the trigger affirmative. and even the gun wasn't his. it miraculously dropped onto his hands when the igathe fellow drew it to finish him. Which gun?
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FRM2011 wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:[quote=FRM2011][quote=sitaki.kujulikana][quote=Obi 1 Kanobi]/quote]
@FRM2011, your theory doesn't make sense. I presume that;
1. You enter into a signed agreement with Shell, so things are done per the agreement, issues of eviction must then follow the agreement.
2. The infrastructure that houses the station is yours and not shells so they can't really evict you, you can opt to take your business to the competition
3. Shell uses their sales people (account managers) whose core role is to drive sales, stock-outs and low sales is the responsibility of the sales team and account managers and not the station owner. Shell as a company is interested in pushing countrywide sales, and targets
4. I would expect fuel to have a separate account from lubricants such that your fuel account status is not affected by slow moving lubricants.
I tend to agree with @Sitakikujulikana's theory, this guy is a politician and I have learned to not trust them at all, they are all corrupt and think they can get away with anything, I bet he was selling adulterated fuel purchased from those dodgy trucks.
Never give a Kenyan politician the benefit of the doubt Am afraid you are wrong in all the above. I worked for 6 months as a station manager under a shell dealership. Until the other day when they started taking over previously independent stations, the practice before was for shell to put up the entire infrastructure, while you provide the land. Even now, everything belongs to shell, including the pumps, tanks and fire fighting equipment. Everything has a shell sticker including the cage for gas cylinders. You only own the inventory. An account manager has a target to drive sales but if you don't meet your target, they start threats of giving the station to someone else. It's why they will send you an email on 31st March and tell you you must buy lubricants worth a certain amount by end of day to meet the quarterly target. And you can't get fuel until you clear the lubricants invoice. Let me explain how a take over happens because I experienced one. Senior guys show up early in the morning and they seal off the premises. Your employees are evicted. You cannot even access the office. They take charge and advise you to pursue your account settlement at their head office. If they tell you that your tanks were leaking and there is water in the fuel tank, your stocks worth like 6M is gone just like that. And they will deduct it from your deposit. It's your land but can't access it anymore. For the senator, it's either that junior employees were unable to evict him or it's a strategic site and polycarp has an interest. Otherwise, this is a first time for a CEO to be involved in KYM tasks. hapo you have added chumvi kidogo, don't scare potential fuel stationowners away. So they also revert the title to their name  , kidding. but honestly poly can't give away your land to someone else. I remember the recent kiambu road station that vivo closed due to card skimming, in that case all they did was come and take away their branding and the station continued operating as an independent station.
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Swenani wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:FRM2011 wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Too many conclusions being drawn from TV footage, there has to be a reason why Shell specifically targeted this Petrol station.
Plus the issue of trespass does not arise as I can bet the franchise agreement gives Shell employees unlimited access to the station.
Lakini if there was a court order which Polycarp ignored, then he could be in deep shit. corporate deeply detest risk (the MNC's especially live to mitigate risk) and any senior employee who places the company at risk knowingly is as good as cooked. shida, some guys want the marketing and the benefits attached from franchise with the big firms and still too greedy they want to run the biashara as an independent outlet. what happens, they end up getting fuel from those funny trucks, the fuel is mostly adulterated, denting the firms image, when the guys from the firms come to check they are threatened with guns and the regulatory guys look the other way due to connections. You are introducing a new angle. According to Polycarp, shell were evicting the senator because of a stock-out inconviencing their clients. Senator Njoroge has talked about the dead stock of lubricants. I have experienced this. They use the lubricants trick to mess your cash flow resulting in stock-outs. One more thing, to get fuel on Monday evening, you need to pay by 2pm Friday. When they want to evict you, someone will just delay updating their system and you are bila fuel. @FRM2011, your theory doesn't make sense. I presume that; 1. You enter into a signed agreement with Shell, so things are done per the agreement, issues of eviction must then follow the agreement. 2. The infrastructure that houses the station is yours and not shells so they can't really evict you, you can opt to take your business to the competition 3. Shell uses their sales people (account managers) whose core role is to drive sales, stock-outs and low sales is the responsibility of the sales team and account managers and not the station owner. Shell as a company is interested in pushing countrywide sales, and targets 4. I would expect fuel to have a separate account from lubricants such that your fuel account status is not affected by slow moving lubricants. I tend to agree with @Sitakikujulikana's theory, this guy is a politician and I have learned to not trust them at all, they are all corrupt and think they can get away with anything, I bet he was selling adulterated fuel purchased from those dodgy trucks. Never give a Kenyan politician the benefit of the doubt Why would a CEO be involved in eviction with no police. From my limited understanding of Franchise management, a francisor cannot evict a franchisee, they can only terminate the franchise agreement. Why would they evict you on your property yet you are the owner of the property and all the inventory and you pay them their royalty and management fees? Don't know about the CEO, but any franchise (of course depending on the agreement), once terminated those giving you the franchise will come and collect what is theirs. If they own the pumps and tanks then they come and take the same, if they only own the branding then watakuja and tear down the same.
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guns are made for use... the fellow used his to stop marauding goons! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Another idiot. How are these gun holders vetted??? The vetting system is broken!!! I suspect worse is going to come from these special breed of Kenyans (civilian gun owners) who are above the rest of us. The idiot
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:Another idiot. How are these gun holders vetted??? The vetting system is broken!!! I suspect worse is going to come from these special breed of Kenyans (civilian gun owners) who are above the rest of us. The idiot http://nairobinews.natio...ws/keep-your-gun-locked/possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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HOW TO LEGALLY OWN A GUN/GET FIREARM LICENSE IN KENYA 1. Start with the local OCS, where you'll.... or the OCS will .... 2. I have (painfully) gone through the entire thread. Other than @Ngong's input, there was nothing else pertaining to legally owning a gun nor getting a firearm license in Kenya. Side-shows aside, would someone in the know, be kind enough to shed light?
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I want a gun, officially!
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