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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:2012 wrote:hamburglar wrote:2012 wrote:hamburglar wrote:Am a little surprised that a lot of men here are OK with extra marital affairs. I am a guy and I live with my beautiful fiance. I would never ever step out on her no matter how tempted I might get. It's just not right. If you want to sleep around then don't get married and if you are married and want to have mpangos, then just separate from or divorce your wife.
Yaani you are test-driving??  What you are doing is as good as having an extramarital affair. So, what happens after you test-drive and realise that you need a SUV? Relationships are not all about sex. It's important but it's not the only thing. And besides, if for some reason we find out that we are not compatible along the way, then we just agree to go our separate ways. How can you say that am having an extramarital when am only with one woman?  Boss, even people with extramarital affairs have one woman at a time, the only difference is the duration. You'll never find a perfect woman and no woman finds a perfect man so just decide and marry her. And it's not true that you'll just go your separate way, she might be too deep in the relationship, for her to move in is an overcommitment on her side while you are probably on the surface all along meaning it might not hurt you as much.... Anyway, and I'm not giving you advise, be careful with a 'come-we-stay relationship, most of the times it ends up in hurt for both. There's a book by Yuval Harari 'Homo deus' and in it this question is of extra marital affairs in an atheistic/humanistic context is explored. The author thinks its one of the main ethical issues of the times. Atheistic ethic and morality is premised on, 'If it does no harm to others, then it's ethical'. But how can we avoid to hurt others when our minds, understanding and interests are so diverse? Quote:Monogamy used to be one person for life. Today, monogamy is one person at a time. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Much Know wrote:hamburglar wrote:Much Know wrote:hamburglar wrote:who loves them What is love ? Is that a serious question? Yes it is a serious question, i thought atheist depend on somee 'logic' to run their affairs not abstract notions like "love" which cannot be proven. You say there is no "faith", yet there is "love", whats the difference, thought these come from the "soul". In this regard i think you mean 'eros love', or "romantic love", what is it? how can you prove you 'know' love? Psychos don't know love, they are cold, some say the same of atheist, they are cold unfeeling and anti-social, think lenin, pol pot, stalin, e.t.c, cold blooded thinkers and murderers who depend on "logic", this is why i want you to explain about love, does it come from the brain? Nonsense
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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2012 wrote:hamburglar wrote:2012 wrote:hamburglar wrote:Am a little surprised that a lot of men here are OK with extra marital affairs. I am a guy and I live with my beautiful fiance. I would never ever step out on her no matter how tempted I might get. It's just not right. If you want to sleep around then don't get married and if you are married and want to have mpangos, then just separate from or divorce your wife.
Yaani you are test-driving?? What you are doing is as good as having an extramarital affair. So, what happens after you test-drive and realise that you need a SUV? Relationships are not all about sex. It's important but it's not the only thing. And besides, if for some reason we find out that we are not compatible along the way, then we just agree to go our separate ways. How can you say that am having an extramarital when am only with one woman? Boss, even people with extramarital affairs have one woman at a time, the only difference is the duration. You'll never find a perfect woman and no woman finds a perfect man so just decide and marry her. And it's not true that you'll just go your separate way, she might be too deep in the relationship, for her to move in is an overcommitment on her side while you are probably on the surface all along meaning it might not hurt you as much.... Anyway, and I'm not giving you advise, be careful with a 'come-we-stay relationship, most of the times it ends up in hurt for both. Like divorce of married couples don't end up in hurt for both? Don't just post for the sake of posting.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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this thread was all nice and gossipy. until hamburglar and their threadwreckers showed up!! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,586
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Just to make my point for Ruto. AS per my African Culture and many Kenyans will attest to this, NO DIVORCE is allowed, once you pick a woman you keep her! If you want another, you still keep the other, our lady supreme court chief justice said this is OK in Africa. Kenya has the lowest divorce rates in sub-saharan Africa at 15%. The rule is THE WOMAN STICK TO ONE MAN..BAS, even our constitution is clear. Why did the woman go away? HATA YESU mwenyewe in Mathew says divorce is out of the question except if the WOMAN commits adultery. In the "west", divorce rates are at 75% in Belgium and typically above 50% in most of it. They have an aging population and NO CHILDREN, hence the middle east and in some cases African immigrants are taking over these countries with their "logical relationships". Masukuma put a video here of the "failed parenting" strategies and relationship failures the west has undergone with this "stupid" western notions of "come we stay" relationships! IMMIGRANTS are snatching what the WHITES HAD! Healthwise, if African system is strictly followed even diseases reduce. Ministry of Health emphasises a simple ABC formula to relationships, A abstain, B, stick to one man as per katiba, C if you CANT CONTROL use condom, from there you are being fooolish and there is nothing to argue about! Ruto is OK! Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Much Know wrote:Just to make my point for Ruto. AS per my African Culture and many Kenyans will attest to this, NO DIVORCE is allowed, once you pick a woman you keep her! If you want another, you still keep the other, our lady supreme court chief justice said this is OK in Africa. Kenya has the lowest divorce rates in sub-saharan Africa at 15%. The rule is THE WOMAN STICK TO ONE MAN..BAS, even our constitution is clear. Why did the woman go away?
HATA YESU mwenyewe in Mathew says divorce is out of the question except if the WOMAN commits adultery.
In the "west", divorce rates are at 75% in Belgium and typically above 50% in most of it. They have an aging population and NO CHILDREN, hence the middle east and in some cases African immigrants are taking over these countries with their "logical relationships". Masukuma put a video here of the "failed parenting" strategies and relationship failures the west has undergone with this "stupid" western notions of "come we stay" relationships! IMMIGRANTS are snatching what the WHITES HAD!
Healthwise, if African system is strictly followed even diseases reduce. Ministry of Health emphasises a simple ABC formula to relationships, A abstain, B, stick to one man as per katiba, C if you CANT CONTROL use condom, from there you are being fooolish and there is nothing to argue about!
Ruto is OK! Kenya also has the highest rates of single mothers/children born out of wedlock in Africa courtesy of Machozi's kind If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,586
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Swenani wrote:Much Know wrote:Just to make my point for Ruto. AS per my African Culture and many Kenyans will attest to this, NO DIVORCE is allowed, once you pick a woman you keep her! If you want another, you still keep the other, our lady supreme court chief justice said this is OK in Africa. Kenya has the lowest divorce rates in sub-saharan Africa at 15%. The rule is THE WOMAN STICK TO ONE MAN..BAS, even our constitution is clear. Why did the woman go away?
HATA YESU mwenyewe in Mathew says divorce is out of the question except if the WOMAN commits adultery.
In the "west", divorce rates are at 75% in Belgium and typically above 50% in most of it. They have an aging population and NO CHILDREN, hence the middle east and in some cases African immigrants are taking over these countries with their "logical relationships". Masukuma put a video here of the "failed parenting" strategies and relationship failures the west has undergone with this "stupid" western notions of "come we stay" relationships! IMMIGRANTS are snatching what the WHITES HAD!
Healthwise, if African system is strictly followed even diseases reduce. Ministry of Health emphasises a simple ABC formula to relationships, A abstain, B, stick to one man as per katiba, C if you CANT CONTROL use condom, from there you are being fooolish and there is nothing to argue about!
Ruto is OK! Kenya also has the highest rates of single mothers/children born out of wedlock in Africa courtesy of Machozi's kind  Courtesy of Queen victorias "white weddings", which were imposed on our culture, you have already forgotten such recent history ? Matunda ya God given Katiba  Na pia kuna "tabia mbaya", haka kaschana nika sponsee! Those tu supuu campus sponsee! Where is her mother? Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,586
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Swenani wrote:
Kenya also has the highest rates of single mothers/children born out of wedlock in Africa courtesy of Machozi's kind
To get this data accurately in Kenya is impossible. Case in point the many single mothers who turn out to be wives after a rich Kenyan dude dies, sad but points to the truth of the problem. The western notion of "hiding" relationships and "hiding" your children in the name being a "good" and "modern" man in robotic aliens eyes! Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Much Know wrote:Swenani wrote:Much Know wrote:Just to make my point for Ruto. AS per my African Culture and many Kenyans will attest to this, NO DIVORCE is allowed, once you pick a woman you keep her! If you want another, you still keep the other, our lady supreme court chief justice said this is OK in Africa. Kenya has the lowest divorce rates in sub-saharan Africa at 15%. The rule is THE WOMAN STICK TO ONE MAN..BAS, even our constitution is clear. Why did the woman go away?
HATA YESU mwenyewe in Mathew says divorce is out of the question except if the WOMAN commits adultery.
In the "west", divorce rates are at 75% in Belgium and typically above 50% in most of it. They have an aging population and NO CHILDREN, hence the middle east and in some cases African immigrants are taking over these countries with their "logical relationships". Masukuma put a video here of the "failed parenting" strategies and relationship failures the west has undergone with this "stupid" western notions of "come we stay" relationships! IMMIGRANTS are snatching what the WHITES HAD!
Healthwise, if African system is strictly followed even diseases reduce. Ministry of Health emphasises a simple ABC formula to relationships, A abstain, B, stick to one man as per katiba, C if you CANT CONTROL use condom, from there you are being fooolish and there is nothing to argue about!
Ruto is OK! Kenya also has the highest rates of single mothers/children born out of wedlock in Africa courtesy of Machozi's kind Courtesy of Queen victorias "white weddings", which were imposed on our culture, you have already forgotten such recent history ? Matunda ya God given Katiba Na pia kuna "tabia mbaya", haka kaschana nika sponsee! Those tu supuu campus sponsee! Where is her mother? White weddings maybe..just maybe Lakini Kativa? I thought Ruto was against kativa? Tuseme tu makosa ilitokea Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,586
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alma1 wrote:Much Know wrote:Swenani wrote:Much Know wrote:Just to make my point for Ruto. AS per my African Culture and many Kenyans will attest to this, NO DIVORCE is allowed, once you pick a woman you keep her! If you want another, you still keep the other, our lady supreme court chief justice said this is OK in Africa. Kenya has the lowest divorce rates in sub-saharan Africa at 15%. The rule is THE WOMAN STICK TO ONE MAN..BAS, even our constitution is clear. Why did the woman go away?
HATA YESU mwenyewe in Mathew says divorce is out of the question except if the WOMAN commits adultery.
In the "west", divorce rates are at 75% in Belgium and typically above 50% in most of it. They have an aging population and NO CHILDREN, hence the middle east and in some cases African immigrants are taking over these countries with their "logical relationships". Masukuma put a video here of the "failed parenting" strategies and relationship failures the west has undergone with this "stupid" western notions of "come we stay" relationships! IMMIGRANTS are snatching what the WHITES HAD!
Healthwise, if African system is strictly followed even diseases reduce. Ministry of Health emphasises a simple ABC formula to relationships, A abstain, B, stick to one man as per katiba, C if you CANT CONTROL use condom, from there you are being fooolish and there is nothing to argue about!
Ruto is OK! Kenya also has the highest rates of single mothers/children born out of wedlock in Africa courtesy of Machozi's kind Courtesy of Queen victorias "white weddings", which were imposed on our culture, you have already forgotten such recent history ? Matunda ya God given Katiba Na pia kuna "tabia mbaya", haka kaschana nika sponsee! Those tu supuu campus sponsee! Where is her mother? White weddings maybe..just maybe Lakini Kativa? I thought Ruto was against kativa? Tuseme tu makosa ilitokea 'We' were not against the whole katiba! The last time i took to the streets was for saba saba riots because of katiba long ago! Am speaking about lions, don't come and dangle meat/yummy diabs infront of a lion especially politicos (mahali kuna conc nyegez) and talk of 'good behavior', i hate politics, ati self control. Simba inkaulanga swara aka nyama. You can never compare a man and a woman in matters eating, i think we surrender "self control" in this matters with all sincerity about human behavior to the ladies! Even the bible warns the woman not to kazia the man, a man with "self control" in this area i would like to see. Ras Kienyeji Man
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