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chemirocha
#461 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2017 5:34:27 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
@Chemirocha, multiple launch rocket systems are not a preserve of ex-soviet armies, ni mingi sana hata West.

Its time we moved from surveillance drones to armed/ weaponised drones, for sure we cant get from Uncle Sam but so what, the Chinese offer a very good substitute, the CH-4 armed drone

Hii ni mambo byaad, ikiona watu mbaya, mambo ni...fimboooo chapaaa!
They have laser-guided munition.
Si mambo ya kutuma tu videos kama scan eagle.
And they are cheap at $1m (KShs 103m),hio hata wakipatia raia paybill number tutachanga, rather than spend millions on lost kdf lives.



My point was that the use of artillery is primarily a Soviet tactic as seen in the Ukraine conflict.

Aerial warfare to support the ground units is the way to go when considering the enemy and the harsh terrain.

@chemirocha, which Ukraine artillery are you talking about. Are you looking at things with a rear mirror flipping over images?



I am talking about the current conflict in eastern Ukraine. Both sides are using howitzers and rocket artillery on enemy positions. As a matter of fact the 2014 Battle of Ilovaisk, is a lesson in modern siege warfare.

Nice photo of the Russian "little green man".
hardwood
#462 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2017 6:02:41 PM
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maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Exclusive video from the camp.





I am worried. Near the end of that video (at 9.30) there are satellite/aerial/drone images of the camp and the geographical coordinates on those images mean the camp is in Kenyan territory. I have input the cordinates into google maps/earth and the camp is in kenya not inside somalia. Infact it is about 700m (on Kenyan side) from the border. This means alshetanis crossed into kenya and attacked us on our own soil. It means they attacked soldiers guarding our border.

Now i got a very interesting message from an army pal...but because you guys will bash me let me just pass...


Sema. We are here to discuss an important national/regional issue that affects us all.
aemathenge
#463 Posted : Thursday, February 09, 2017 10:32:26 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Sema. We are here to discuss an important national/regional issue that affects us all.


Indeed. So, how about a discussion about Uncle Sam's little war on Kenian Homeland and the ever present hankie pinkie about land.

The following is an extract from this article report (Link)

Quote:
AMERICA’S SHADOW WARS

Big Game: U.S. Soldiers’ Secret Hunt for Jihadists in a Kenyan Forest

Introduction:

“Special Operations Command (SOCOM) is a relatively lean organization and continues to rely on contracted support for administration, logistics, operations, intelligence, and physical security.”

“Think the old BlackWater and Executive Outcomes.”

It’s not uncommon to hear about U.S. Special Forces on the ground in fragile states like Somalia and Iraq, but seeing them in a sovereign democratic state—Kenya—seemed unusual.

U.S. military presence in Kenya had been sparse until the 9/11 attacks. “Boots on the ground” in Kenya was practically unheard of.

In Somalia it also was virtually nonexistent for more than 20 years after the infamous “Black Hawk Down” incident in 1993.

But clearly all that has changed.

The United States is waging secret warfare around the world. The operations in and around Kenya’s Boni National Reserve on the Somali border are some of the most mysterious.

The Boni Forest Theater and Land Question

Doza reports that guerrillas took his people’s food and issued warnings not to reveal their whereabouts to Kenya security, “Otherwise, we’ll deal with you.” Aside from this, he notes, the insurgents are polite.

“Al-Shabaab rob from us, but they don’t beat us or grab our land—the way Kenya forces do.”

Land grabs in northeastern Kenya are nothing new. In the ’80s the Kenyan government seized land during a counterinsurgency operations against ethnic Somalis inhabiting the area.

Now locals—ethnic Somalis and Muslim communities generally—suspect that military expansion is an excuse to take more land in and around an area where the Kenya government, the Chinese, and several multinational companies have plans for an oil-related infrastructure mega-development.

The KDF concedes that the forest is a national reserve but insists it is gazetted as government land, not communal land.

How To Undertake A Fishing Expedition:

Swaleh Msellem, a Swahili resident of Lamu Island, manages a petrol station at the Mokowe jetty a few kilometers across a channel on the mainland.

Msellem, now 30, told me how one morning he’d docked his boat at the jetty where at least a dozen non-uniformed men, whom he claims were with the paramilitary wing of Kenya’s National Police Service, had been waiting for him.

Someone pulled a hood over his head and tossed him into a vehicle. Familiar with the area and its roads, he said he could tell he was driven some 40 kilometers away to the Baragoni military base, where he was detained in a shipping container and tortured.

Some of the techniques used on him were repeated mock drownings (a variation on waterboarding) and crushing of testicles.

These were done, he said, to extract a confession that he planned a deadly attack in the nearby village of Hindi, soon after the Mpekatoni massacre. He denied this. The interrogators asked where the weapons were that were used for the attacks. “Which weapons?” he answered.

The KDF continued to grill him, insisting he had information. He told me that during that detention he was driven from Baragoni to an area nearby where he witnessed the execution of two al-Shabaab fighters by a firing squad.

One afternoon he complained of feeling ill. Guards took him outside to a pond where he vomited. Through his loosened blindfold, he was able to glimpse crocodiles on the berm of the pond.

Why were crocodiles being kept inside a military base, he wondered.

Msellem said soldiers later threatened that he’d be fed to the crocodiles like others had been if he didn’t cooperate. After two weeks he was transferred to the port town of Mombasa, to the south, and held several months at the infamous Shimo La Tewa prison in a wing reserved for terrorists.

Msellem eventually was taken into court, where he was acquitted of all murder and terror-related charges for lack of evidence.

Conclusion:

When I interviewed Msellem, he was grimly philosophical. Although he did not see or talk to any U.S. personnel, as far as he knew, he had no doubt they played some role behind the scenes.

“The Americans are very complicated, aren't they? On the one hand they are helping us by building roads, dispensaries, schools, but they also seem to want to kill us.”

In that one observation, Msellem summed up the Jekyll and Hyde nature of the “3-D approach to U.S. Foreign Policy”: defense, diplomacy, and development.
hardwood
#464 Posted : Friday, February 10, 2017 10:52:13 AM
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Celebrations in Somalia after election of new president. Alshababs becoming more isolated. The new president has the goodwill of the somali people and international community. Even kenyan somalis are celebrating which is a very good thing coz it means they dont support those alshatanis.



http://edition.cnn.com/2...rmajo-somalia-election/

http://www.the-star.co.k...pm-wins-somali_c1503271









hardwood
#465 Posted : Friday, February 10, 2017 10:56:11 AM
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Meanwhile security was very tight during the elections. We wish the somali govt the very best.






Intelligentsia
#466 Posted : Friday, February 10, 2017 3:08:19 PM
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@Mahegoat thanks for sharing, interesting article
AlphDoti
#467 Posted : Friday, February 10, 2017 4:40:22 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
@Mahegoat thanks for sharing, interesting article

This is good. I'm happy for Somali people. I hope the new president can be able to unite the people...
masukuma
#468 Posted : Saturday, February 11, 2017 4:41:11 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Celebrations in Somalia after election of new president. Alshababs becoming more isolated. The new president has the goodwill of the somali people and international community. Even kenyan somalis are celebrating which is a very good thing coz it means they dont support those alshatanis.



http://edition.cnn.com/2...rmajo-somalia-election/

http://www.the-star.co.k...pm-wins-somali_c1503271










I am hoping these guys have peace...
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
hardwood
#469 Posted : Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:37:58 AM
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guru267
#470 Posted : Tuesday, February 14, 2017 4:47:37 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Celebrations in Somalia after election of new president. Alshababs becoming more isolated. The new president has the goodwill of the somali people and international community. Even kenyan somalis are celebrating which is a very good thing coz it means they dont support those alshatanis.



http://edition.cnn.com/2...rmajo-somalia-election/

http://www.the-star.co.k...pm-wins-somali_c1503271











There is no evidence that the majority of Somalis support the new government. The handful of people in your photos speaks volumes... The only thing really interesting about this new president is that he is against AMISOM presence in Somalia
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Deuteronomy 4:16
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