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Obi 1 Kanobi		#441 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2017 12:10:27 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017		Caveman wrote: http://www.nation.co.ke/news/1056-3800246-3cwa1lz/index.html I like the way they have embraced the use of surveillance drones and hitting their targets. If they had 'hell fire' from the US, they would have finished those Alshabaab when they were still 2KM away. Very heartening account of events. Proud of the boys "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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wanyee		#442 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2017 12:13:18 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu		Njung'e wrote: Angelica _ann wrote: [quote=Njung'e][quote=Caveman] All in all this is an improvement from Elade, we are getting somewhere. My guess is that next time the air support will be faster to deal with those bomb vehicles at a better distance than was in this case. You read the account of the Officer and you are in tears. Big up boys...... hakuna wamama huko for equality purposes I want to believe that is why Kenya is going for this birds. They would have taken the VBEIDs quite easily and early enough. Anyway, lemme digress for i know nothing military. As for akina mama, wakae nyumbani!. Watapeleka nyege huko and then our mboys will be caught on the "hill" it is better that it is publicized that crafts are crop dusters than being F22s' then the other side under rate the flying blues www.businessballs.com
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Intelligentsia		#443 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2017 5:15:04 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436		Our boys tried but army and air calvary need to work in greater sync. I find our approach was poor and too soft...our jets/gunships could have engaged them way before they approached the camp when they were 18kms away, given the drone spotted no anti-aircraft armaments! Why give the al-sheitans opportunities to regroup and approach the camp - they should never be allowed to even come within 10km (range of some weapons) of the camp!! Note our soldiers TWICE missed the blue Pajero svbied that passed the hesco barriers with the dependable Carl Gustav 84 mm anti-armour (this was a soft skin vbied ingeraruliwa kabsaa) and exploded, thereby taking away many KDF lives. What we needed were like 3-4 a multiple rocket launch system to rain real effing fire of shock and awe anti-personnel submunitions on the al sheitans once the drone spots them, a modern version of the soviet-era BM-21 ...offensively take the war to them, not adopt a defensive approach of waiting for them to come to you,ama namna gani my friends? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-lGwyySrwY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEp7vnl2RUE (0-0.20)
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Angelica _ann		#444 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2017 5:29:09 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,939		Can we have something that can be 'poured' on these buggers, as they approach' that just burns and disables them kabisa (disfigure ) but doen't kill or kills slowly. Just mad at them saitans In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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AlphDoti		#445 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2017 6:05:51 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya		Corporal Amani Ramadhan, another battle hardened soldier was the section commander and in charge at the first line of defence. “We were well prepared, the defence was organised. This was not a surprise because we had information. In terms of equipment we were prepared,” said Corporal Ramadhan. He, continued fighting along with a colleague he identifies as Sergeant Asiz, who was firing using a mounted machine gun. “He told me he had fired the last bullet in the belt. I gave him another belt. He was shot as he loaded it. But he stood up and went on. He fired again before he was shot thrice..."
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chemirocha		#446 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2017 7:37:08 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley		Intelligentsia wrote: Our boys tried but army and air calvary need to work in greater sync. I find our approach was poor and too soft...our jets/gunships could have engaged them way before they approached the camp when they were 18kms away, given the drone spotted no anti-aircraft armaments! Why give the al-sheitans opportunities to regroup and approach the camp - they should never be allowed to even come within 10km (range of some weapons) of the camp!! Note our soldiers TWICE missed the blue Pajero svbied that passed the hesco barriers with the dependable Carl Gustav 84 mm anti-armour (this was a soft skin vbied ingeraruliwa kabsaa) and exploded, thereby taking away many KDF lives. What we needed were like 3-4 a multiple rocket launch system to rain real effing fire of shock and awe anti-personnel submunitions on the al sheitans once the drone spots them, a modern version of the soviet-era BM-21 ...offensively take the war to them, not adopt a defensive approach of waiting for them to come to you,ama namna gani my friends? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-lGwyySrwY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEp7vnl2RUE (0-0.20) Good points although you have to remember that AMISOM is strictly speaking a peace-keeping mission and that severely restricts the terms of engagement. On the matter of using heavy artillery to pummel the enemy, that is a Soviet tactic that I doubt our troops are conversant with. It would be interesting to know the involvement of the 50 Air Cavalry gunships because this is exactly what they were trained to do.
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hardwood		#447 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2017 8:27:43 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay		So what is alshabab's end game? Somalia is currently divided into 3 regions two of which are independent regions in the north i.e. Somaliland and Puntland, and the south which is governed from Mogadishu by the Somali govt with the rag tag alshabab confined in the bushes. If alshetanis are found in only a small portion of a third of Somalia how the hell do they ever think they will ever rule Somalia? Currently they are being pounded heavily by UNISOM, Somali national army and Puntland forces who are fellow Somalis. They are fighting a losing battle. www.intelligencebriefs.c...untains-kill-over-dozen/ www.garoweonline.com/en/...habaab-fighters-state-tv
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Taurrus		#448 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2017 9:44:43 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite		Angelica _ann wrote: Can we have something that can be 'poured' on these buggers, as they approach' that just burns and disables them kabisa (disfigure ) but doen't kill or kills slowly. Just mad at them saitans AA mko kwao,what do you expect them to do, sorry!
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Caveman		#449 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2017 10:09:00 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 4/15/2009 Posts: 371		"We took them (Shabaab) out from far away. They could not go past this place and so they decided to leave" #Kulbiyow http://www.nation.co.ke/...02588-vtck8dz/index.html
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Intelligentsia		#450 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2017 10:37:54 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436		@Chemirocha, multiple launch rocket systems are not a preserve of ex-soviet armies, ni mingi sana hata West. Its time we moved from surveillance drones to armed/ weaponised drones, for sure we cant get from Uncle Sam but so what, the Chinese offer a very good substitute, the CH-4 armed drone Hii ni mambo byaad, ikiona watu mbaya, mambo ni...fimboooo chapaaa! They have laser-guided munition. Si mambo ya kutuma tu videos kama scan eagle. And they are cheap at $1m (KShs 103m),hio hata wakipatia raia paybill number tutachanga, rather than spend millions on lost kdf lives.
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