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Rank: Member Joined: 12/7/2009 Posts: 320 Location: nairobi
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Is it true that a husband can be jealous of his wife success?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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...yes...if you suffer from inferiority complex. I listened to a sermon live on Citizen on Sunday from House of Grace Church (why has Citizen moved from Mavuno?) and the sermon was about this subject. I would say it was a very nice sermon. If you are a Class 7 dropout and you marry an MBA, what do you expect? The man will never be happy...there has to be some compatibility. When the learned lady talks about stocks and shares, the man may think this is a new type of a local brew!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/7/2009 Posts: 320 Location: nairobi
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What a bout a situation whereby the man is more qualified than the lady. He cannot just do anything for the lady. The man statement is always ”Si hata wewe unafanya kazi”
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/5/2010 Posts: 92
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@ atiriri. Such a man is not worth the salt of being a husband. Some have been thought brave because they were afraid to run away.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2007 Posts: 215
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From a different perspective, Would you date a lady who is more loaded than you are? I mean drives a better car, Has more in investements ( plots etc), Her bottomline reads better than yours.
Can this thing work. Just being a man.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/6/2010 Posts: 741 Location: Nairobi
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I think dudes are just weird when it comes to the woman's success. Probably they feel embarrassed if the woman is doing better than them. Like in the case of Wangari Maathai and her husband.According to her book, the dude felt threatened because she was a whole professor and was making it big (i don't know But it happens)and decided to leave her. That's why many men will want their women to quit their jobs and stay at home. luckily there are quite a number of men who appreciate the role of a hardworking career woman especially in this tough economy  . (was also wondering what happened to mavuno on citizen)
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/7/2009 Posts: 320 Location: nairobi
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@Wairegi
In this case the man earns more than the woman. But the woman is working smart. She is investment cautious while all the man wants to do is to buy cars
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436
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Hi guys,just from a long tour of parts of Ug good 2 be back hm!
Painting with a broad brush, I don think dudes are weird - its just the way we are socialised in a patriarchal society to believe that the man brings the bacon - in abundance - home, and so anything to the contrary is unsettling to both parties.
now that this set up is being replaced by a matriarchal society...in future it will be odd if a man earns more than the wife!
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2009 Posts: 132 Location: nairobi
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most men dont like a woman rising because they cant manipulate and control them, if it was a boyfriend a'd ask you to leave but being a husband use your woman wits. Don't fight a battle if you gain nothing by winning.” Erwin Rommel When I was a child, I spoke like a child, thought like a child, and reasoned like a child. When I became an adult, I no longer used childish ways.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,718
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I think very highly of the role of women as mothers who nurture their family (children and husband) by providing nutritious foods and a tender loving home. As homekeepers who transform a house into a home and make it a place to look forward to after a long day out in the world. As the first teachers of children who teach their children how to be respectful and how to treat others. As lovers who provide a gentle comfort from the hard knocks of business or work etc.
I am not married yet but when that time comes this is what i will be looking for in a wife. I will NOT be looking for a business partner or an investment adviser, drinking buddy or someone to discuss politics and the ramifications of global warming with. On the other hand I will not expect her to ever worry about such things as having a roof above her head, food, clothes, makeup or the education of our children. That will be taken care of by me and I do not want or need any help. This is the only marriage in which I can function and I am not going to lie to myself that I can survive in an equal relationship.
I have no right to come back home and put my feet on the table and expect a hot meal when I have just walked in with my wife from work. Yet I want to do exactly that, walk in, put up my feet and get a hot meal. I don't know if girls who go to University and study to become lawyers and doctors and other high flying positions do that with the aim of waiting on their husbands at home. They definitely are not. While their education is commendable and is something that I would desire for my daughter or sister it does not add any value to the function of wife, mother, homekeeper or lover as I see it.
Does this mean that I am jealous of "successful" career women? I don't think so. It just means that she is not the type that I can live with because I will not be useful to her neither her to me. Yes I used the word useful, I want to be valuable to someone and she to me because we serve complementary functions in the family not similar ones.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2007 Posts: 2,047
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I think this intelligencia person is bang on
@ kusadikika,does this then mean that you will marry an illiterate? While being provided for is the joy of every woman,there is worth that comes from feeling useful even to the society/ human kind at large.I find it hard to believe that any woman would find any pleasure in being provided for so that you can lift your feet on the table at end of the day......
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2010 Posts: 458
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Though am single i would rather marry a lady who is always looking for success , eager to try out several investment opportunities available,and willing to engage in fruitful competition with me,other than a lady who will just be a couch potato who does nothing in the house other than scolding at you when u try to hustle!! @chepkel-- wangaris husband ran away because of the PHD...?? funny update president set president = speaker where president is null
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,718
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famooz wrote:I think this intelligencia person is bang on
@ kusadikika,does this then mean that you will marry an illiterate? While being provided for is the joy of every woman,there is worth that comes from feeling useful even to the society/ human kind at large.I find it hard to believe that any woman would find any pleasure in being provided for so that you can lift your feet on the table at end of the day...... The simple answer to your question famooz is not necessarily. Neither will her level of literacy be an issue. I question your assumption that an illiterate woman would feel useless to society / humankind at large. Some of the most important functions of motherhood and housekeeping do not require any literacy skills at all. Please also refrain from calling a housewife "someone who is being provided for." Any person who has done an honest days work in the house will tell you it is no easy task. In fact it is a lot of hard work and I would be willing to work my butt off to make sure the one who does it for me never lacks anything. We are providing for each other. I put my feet up when I get to the house so that she does not have to care about the price of makeup, or a hairdresser or curtains or clothes or a holiday. She gets to put her feet up as well. My experience tells me contrary to your belief that there are many women who would find pleasure in this kind of arrangement.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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I guess it all boils down to the kind of mother figure who brought you up. My mother was a working mother untill she retired from the civil service. In this regard, I do not think I would be comfortable with a non working spouse. In as far as more income than mine is concerned I guess if she spends a large portion on the needs of the family, then I would have no problem. I do appreciate @Kusadika's honesty on this matter. He is deep.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 489
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....that's Wangari's version of why they separated; other accounts indicate that she was...not faithful  ..some sitting mp from her backyard was mentioned. ..nway her estranged hubby-Dr Mwangi Maathai is actually a PHD!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/7/2010 Posts: 1,279 Location: nbi
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atiriri- no unless ni ile na ya mabebe. The hubby must appresiate the wife kama akipata success, you give her two extra ones The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2007 Posts: 2,047
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I would be interested to hear what the ladies on the forum think......like Mahegoat says( hi mahegoat!),i guess it depends on the mother figure who raised us. It also depends on the someones dreams and ambitions.........
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 761 Location: Nairobi
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Someone must wonder why career women are sometimes replaced as wives by their illiterate mboches. Take note of what Kusadikika says. It is natural instincts for a man to value being taken care of. In a case where a career woman delegates all the responsibilities of taking care of the man other than in the bedroom to the mboch, the man could easily be tempted to replace her even in the bedroom with the woman who does the rest, after all they are both women. The best arrangement for me would be a career/working woman who balances taking care of me and her other work...a hard find but possible. When I admire the wonder of a sunset or the beauty of the moon, my soul expands in worship of the Creator.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/7/2009 Posts: 320 Location: nairobi
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@ Marty It is not a matter of career woman here. It is a matter of 50-50. Do half i tackle the remaining half. Please let us buy land, "No i want an investment that brings in money daily. You can just buy after all you are also working" I mean such statements
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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@Kusadikika Contrary to the way you present your idea of marriage, it actually sounds like a business partnership rather than a loving, fulfilling relationship. The emphasis in your description is the functionality of the marriage - too much emphasis on designated roles. The starting point of marriage is friendship (or at least that what I would like to believe). In your case friendship, shared interests do not appear to figure at all. I wonder what will be the glue when you go thro rough patches of life - those delineated functions of husband and wife?
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