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hardwood wrote:You are FIRED!!! Nice move by Trump. No govt should accommodate moles/saboteurs in its ranks. Also civil servants are required to serve the government of the day, the govt that has been unanimously elected by the people, and if one is not ready, they should go home. http://www.reuters.com/a...migration-idUSKBN15E1DE
You do understand that the attorney general is a member of cabinet and chief legal advisor to the government. The holder of that office can dissent if the president's actions are potentially illegal.
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chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:You are FIRED!!! Nice move by Trump. No govt should accommodate moles/saboteurs in its ranks. Also civil servants are required to serve the government of the day, the govt that has been unanimously elected by the people, and if one is not ready, they should go home. http://www.reuters.com/a...migration-idUSKBN15E1DE
You do understand that the attorney general is a member of cabinet and chief legal advisor to the government. The holder of that office can dissent if the president's actions are potentially illegal.  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:You are FIRED!!! Nice move by Trump. No govt should accommodate moles/saboteurs in its ranks. Also civil servants are required to serve the government of the day, the govt that has been unanimously elected by the people, and if one is not ready, they should go home. http://www.reuters.com/a...migration-idUSKBN15E1DE
You do understand that the attorney general is a member of cabinet and chief legal advisor to the government. The holder of that office can dissent if the president's actions are potentially illegal. Can you imagine AG Githo Moigai refusing to support jubilee's move of closing refugee camps and sending the refugees back home? https://www.standardmedi...law-says-ag-githu-muigai
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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hardwood wrote:chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:You are FIRED!!! Nice move by Trump. No govt should accommodate moles/saboteurs in its ranks. Also civil servants are required to serve the government of the day, the govt that has been unanimously elected by the people, and if one is not ready, they should go home. http://www.reuters.com/a...migration-idUSKBN15E1DE
You do understand that the attorney general is a member of cabinet and chief legal advisor to the government. The holder of that office can dissent if the president's actions are potentially illegal. Can you imagine AG Githo Moigai refusing to support jubilee's move of closing refugee camps and sending the refugees back home? https://www.standardmedi...aw-says-ag-githu-muigai Githu is in an even stronger position because he does not serve at the pleasure of the president. I think it is a well known fact that our current AG does not always agree with directions from State House.
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hardwood wrote:You are FIRED!!! Nice move by Trump. No govt should accommodate moles/saboteurs in its ranks. Also civil servants are required to serve the government of the day, the govt that has been unanimously elected by the people, and if one is not ready, they should go home. http://www.reuters.com/a...migration-idUSKBN15E1DE
Reuters wrote:U.S. President Donald Trump fired top federal government lawyer Sally Yates on Monday after she took the extraordinarily rare step of defying the White House and refused to defend new travel restrictions targeting seven nations.
It was another dramatic twist in the unusually raucous roll-out of Trump's directive that put a 120-day hold on allowing refugees into the country, an indefinite ban on refugees from Syria and a 90-day bar on citizens from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.
Yates said late on Monday that the Justice Department would not defend the order against court challenges, saying that she did not believe it would be "consistent with this institution's solemn obligation to always seek justice and stand for what is right."
Hours later, she was fired. The White House said Yates "has betrayed the Department of Justice by refusing to enforce a legal order designed to protect the citizens of the United States" and portrayed her actions as political. And so she takes the honours of being the first one to be FIRED by the president.
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chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:You are FIRED!!! Nice move by Trump. No govt should accommodate moles/saboteurs in its ranks. Also civil servants are required to serve the government of the day, the govt that has been unanimously elected by the people, and if one is not ready, they should go home. http://www.reuters.com/a...migration-idUSKBN15E1DE
You do understand that the attorney general is a member of cabinet and chief legal advisor to the government. The holder of that office can dissent if the president's actions are potentially illegal. Can you imagine AG Githo Moigai refusing to support jubilee's move of closing refugee camps and sending the refugees back home? https://www.standardmedi...aw-says-ag-githu-muigai Githu is in an even stronger position because he does not serve at the pleasure of the president. I think it is a well known fact that our current AG does not always agree with directions from State House. Are you sure, I thought he is a cabinet secretary like any other and can suffer a fate similar to Ngilu's if necessary "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:You are FIRED!!! Nice move by Trump. No govt should accommodate moles/saboteurs in its ranks. Also civil servants are required to serve the government of the day, the govt that has been unanimously elected by the people, and if one is not ready, they should go home. http://www.reuters.com/a...migration-idUSKBN15E1DE
You do understand that the attorney general is a member of cabinet and chief legal advisor to the government. The holder of that office can dissent if the president's actions are potentially illegal. Can you imagine AG Githo Moigai refusing to support jubilee's move of closing refugee camps and sending the refugees back home? https://www.standardmedi...aw-says-ag-githu-muigai Githu is in an even stronger position because he does not serve at the pleasure of the president. I think it is a well known fact that our current AG does not always agree with directions from State House. Are you sure, I thought he is a cabinet secretary like any other and can suffer a fate similar to Ngilu's if necessary The AG has security of tenure under the current law. That's the reason our silly mp's are rushing to make amendments.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:You are FIRED!!! Nice move by Trump. No govt should accommodate moles/saboteurs in its ranks. Also civil servants are required to serve the government of the day, the govt that has been unanimously elected by the people, and if one is not ready, they should go home. http://www.reuters.com/a...migration-idUSKBN15E1DE
You do understand that the attorney general is a member of cabinet and chief legal advisor to the government. The holder of that office can dissent if the president's actions are potentially illegal. Can you imagine AG Githo Moigai refusing to support jubilee's move of closing refugee camps and sending the refugees back home? https://www.standardmedi...aw-says-ag-githu-muigai Githu is in an even stronger position because he does not serve at the pleasure of the president. I think it is a well known fact that our current AG does not always agree with directions from State House. Are you sure, I thought he is a cabinet secretary like any other and can suffer a fate similar to Ngilu's if necessary technically... he as explicit security of tenure and the interesting thing is (if no one has changed it) - while the constitution had stated how other state officers could quit - it did not state how the attorney general could quit. Kinda reminded me of the ministers under the old constitution - they could not 'resign'. they could rusha mikono but they were still ministers until the president let them off the hook. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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masukuma wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:You are FIRED!!! Nice move by Trump. No govt should accommodate moles/saboteurs in its ranks. Also civil servants are required to serve the government of the day, the govt that has been unanimously elected by the people, and if one is not ready, they should go home. http://www.reuters.com/a...migration-idUSKBN15E1DE
You do understand that the attorney general is a member of cabinet and chief legal advisor to the government. The holder of that office can dissent if the president's actions are potentially illegal. Can you imagine AG Githo Moigai refusing to support jubilee's move of closing refugee camps and sending the refugees back home? https://www.standardmedi...aw-says-ag-githu-muigai Githu is in an even stronger position because he does not serve at the pleasure of the president. I think it is a well known fact that our current AG does not always agree with directions from State House. Are you sure, I thought he is a cabinet secretary like any other and can suffer a fate similar to Ngilu's if necessary technically... he as explicit security of tenure and the interesting thing is (if no one has changed it) - while the constitution had stated how other state officers could quit - it did not state how the attorney general could quit. Kinda reminded me of the ministers under the old constitution - they could not 'resign'. they could rusha mikono but they were still ministers until the president let them off the hook. The AG can resign by writing to the president. Office of the Attorney General Act 2012. Sections 11 and 12 are relevant to this discussion.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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chemirocha wrote:masukuma wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:chemirocha wrote:hardwood wrote:You are FIRED!!! Nice move by Trump. No govt should accommodate moles/saboteurs in its ranks. Also civil servants are required to serve the government of the day, the govt that has been unanimously elected by the people, and if one is not ready, they should go home. http://www.reuters.com/a...migration-idUSKBN15E1DE
You do understand that the attorney general is a member of cabinet and chief legal advisor to the government. The holder of that office can dissent if the president's actions are potentially illegal. Can you imagine AG Githo Moigai refusing to support jubilee's move of closing refugee camps and sending the refugees back home? https://www.standardmedi...aw-says-ag-githu-muigai Githu is in an even stronger position because he does not serve at the pleasure of the president. I think it is a well known fact that our current AG does not always agree with directions from State House. Are you sure, I thought he is a cabinet secretary like any other and can suffer a fate similar to Ngilu's if necessary technically... he as explicit security of tenure and the interesting thing is (if no one has changed it) - while the constitution had stated how other state officers could quit - it did not state how the attorney general could quit. Kinda reminded me of the ministers under the old constitution - they could not 'resign'. they could rusha mikono but they were still ministers until the president let them off the hook. The AG can resign by writing to the president. Office of the Attorney General Act 2012. Sections 11 and 12 are relevant to this discussion. yes... i said "the constitution".... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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